View Full Version : Does this entire forum have beer goggles???
Starman
05-03-2003, 09:39 PM
Why is it every problem some guy here has is about a "HB9 or HB10"???
am I missing something here?
do you folks have a really low standard rating system?
Girls like Denise Richards, Pamela Anderson(with make up), Yamila Diaz, The Barbie Twins are HB's that are 9's
The funny thing is..by even referring to your women that you are having problems with as 8's or 9's or 10's ..you are violating the basic premise of this forum...Putting women on a pedestal...Obviously thinking she is better looking than you to score a 9 or 10
I wouldnt even give 8's or 9's to the hottest looking girls in the Strip clubs here in Chicago..and there are alot of Hot ones..
Either Adjust your beer goggles..or stop being such a AFC by referring to women with a higher # rank than they deserve
ChevyLover
05-03-2003, 09:49 PM
Most of them probably just do it to save face.
Example:
"Yeah - duh, you know this girl I was f*cking was an HB9, you know?" - when really she was just a 7, and he didn't want us thinking that he gets sh*tty women or something...
Thats my take on the situation...
CL
Starman
05-03-2003, 09:56 PM
I sincerely believe these guys believe that the HB's they talk of..give a higher rating to these girls than they are really worth..
I have an old bald fat friend who would look at the most hideous looking girl and rate her a 6 or 7..his standards are way low..just like when you are starving .. a piece of bread is as good as a $30 steak
another friend who always says "ohh you gotta see the girl I hooked up with! KNOCKOUT!"
then when I see her..she is like a 5 or 6
jakethasnake
05-03-2003, 10:23 PM
I have to agree with you there, Starman.
I rate celebrities or other beautiful women with exceptional charisma and/or social standing as 9s. There are NO "10s" -- I mean NONE. Not even the Virgin Mary or Helen of Troy can qualify, I don't give a mutherfukk what you say!! They all have one fault or another that lowers their rating from a perfect 10.
I RARELY rate any woman I meet personally in real life as anything higher than an 8.5. If she gets an 8.5 -- I'm serious here -- she had better one of the most gorgeous and contagiously fun/charming/faithful/humorous/kind/etc. girls anyone has ever seen in their lives. I'm talking the types that get even good looking guys with high standards drooling and day dreaming about.
Most *just* pretty girls (with nothing more other than looks) I rate a 7.5, tops.
These guys who call all the girls they meet 9 and 10s need to reevalute their sad, supplicating lives. :rolleyes:
squirrels
05-03-2003, 10:29 PM
Holy crap! Those numbers are WAY off what I use. Your 6s and 7s are probably my 9s. :o And I thought my game was weak before. LOL
Shiftkey
05-03-2003, 10:54 PM
That's why I stopped giving girls numbers. They're either attractive enough for me to date, or they're not.
It's all perception, a girl you really like, and is hot, is going to seem like the most beautiful person in the world.
diplomatic_lies
05-03-2003, 11:21 PM
Well, you never know. Maybe every guy on here can get a HB9 or a SUPERMODEL1000000000000000.
Speaking of which, I usually put ranks in percentage. So a 9 would be better looking than 90% of the population, 5 would be average, 7 would be better than 70%. It makes it a lot easier.
( . )( . )
05-03-2003, 11:51 PM
Here Here Starman I agree all these 9s and 10s :rolleyes:
there is another post about this I wrote this and the same thing applies:
Originally posted by ( . )( . )
yep pablo i agree , how can there be such thing as a 10? that would have to mean goddess like literally,
perfect in every single sense of the word mind and body, where to gaze upon these creatures, and hear their words one would be overcome.
Are there even humans around that fit this category?
So by rights, that being said even an "8" in everyday life would be considered an extremely remarkable thing being she is 80 % perfect....
ie. when rating chicks 9s and 10s to me it seems not possible unless maybe some of you guys are being visited by some sort of angelic race of people i dont know about.
So in other words its a bloody joke all these 9s and 10s getting picked up.
Pamela Anderson a 9? not in this lifetime , 6.5 at the very best
Lone_raider
05-03-2003, 11:57 PM
I've never ever said any girl I was after in the past was higher then 7 and they weren't! But I'll admit the one I'm dealing with now I gave a 9, that might be one to high but good lord, she is at least an 8! Perhaps the whole number system is idiotic, how about not good looking, good looking or really good looking lol :p
a_client
05-04-2003, 12:06 AM
I thought about this for about 3 seconds. Some people think Anna Nichole Smith is a 10. I think she's a 1 maybe a 2 and yes I've always thought that. So to me this number system thing is perfect cause everybody has their own idea of what a perfect 10 is.
Julius_Caesar
05-04-2003, 12:31 AM
all those numbers are just crap.
EVERTHING IS RELATIVE.
if you were born on a fugly colony the non-deformed people are gonna be 10s. for instance, at my school there are like 5 really good looking girls in my grade, the ones all the guys treat like goddesses; but while these girls ARE good looking, relative to the best looking seinor girls they look like kids(literally and figuratively). Most of the guys at my school would rate the hottest one a 10, shes not, relativily speaking of course.
I judge everything with my jimmie. If he likes her thats all that matters.
wheelin&dealin
05-04-2003, 01:11 AM
Ok, ok...
I had sex with this HB3 last night while this HB1 was stripping down her naked, 400 pound line-backer body in front of me.
jakethasnake
05-04-2003, 01:22 AM
****, I'm sprung now.
junglist
05-04-2003, 01:31 AM
Yeah, it is all relative. I think one of the reasons for inflated ratings is that we're not really going to pay attention, or think much about, girls below 5 or 6. If I see an ugly chick the LAST thing I wanna do is figure out whether she's a two or a three.
(Hmmm... well she's pretty fat but not as bad as Roseanne, and she's got acne scars all over her face, but she's got ok titties - and hey, she's not as ugly as THAT girl over there!) <---- does not happen.
honeyshark
05-04-2003, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Julius_Caesar
all those numbers are just crap.
EVERTHING IS RELATIVE.
if you were born on a fugly colony the non-deformed people are gonna be 10s. for instance, at my school there are like 5 really good looking girls in my grade, the ones all the guys treat like goddesses; but while these girls ARE good looking, relative to the best looking seinor girls they look like kids(literally and figuratively). Most of the guys at my school would rate the hottest one a 10, shes not, relativily speaking of course.
Very true, very true. Furthermore, the rating system is completely arbitrary and has no standard with which we can calibrate the numbers. So when someone says "yeah, I got this hb9.." I just assume that this number is how attractive the speaker percieves the woman to be, as truely there is no universal standard for beauty and rating people with numbers, IMHO, holds no merit (although it can be fun)
Pecker
05-04-2003, 05:39 AM
I don't know about you all but my scale is a composite of looks and personality. If I ever mention an HB9, all that means is that this girl is someone who I'm incredibly attracted to.
Denise Richards or Salma Hayek or Halle Berre...these are all beautiful women who are missing half of the equation to even be given a complete, fair score...because I don't KNOW them as people.
Evil-Rom
05-04-2003, 06:34 AM
I think the "rating system" is differet from person to person. It all depends on how many attractive girls the guy himself has seen.
For example, If a guy saw 100 girls, and 90 of them we fugly, 5 were average, 3 were pretty, and 2 were beautiful, it would imply that the 2 beautiful girls would be around 8-10 since he hasn't seen any better. I still think there is no "10".
Of course, one guys fugly, might be anothers beautiful.
This is basically me "rating system"
1-4 - Considered ugly BY ME.
5 - average lookin, no personality.
6 - average lookin, some personality.
7 - balance, good lookin, nice personality.
8 - better than (7) lookin, better than (7) personality.
9 - rare, for actors or that 1% population who are beautiful with a madnificent personality.
10 - no 10's.
Thats kinda my rating, i think. :rolleyes:
CyranoDeBergerac
05-04-2003, 06:38 AM
Then there's always the scientifically proven fact that girls who seem interested in you always appear more attractive than those that won't give you the time of day. Vanity perhaps, but hey...
whoami
05-04-2003, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by Starman
I wouldnt even give 8's or 9's to the hottest looking girls in the Strip clubs here in Chicago..and there are alot of Hot ones..
Either Adjust your beer goggles..or stop being such a AFC by referring to women with a higher # rank than they deserve
beer goggles :D lol...
dunno i dont think i ever met my 9 in this life...
at max is 8 or 8.5
i m no full of crap when it comes to picking...
Then there's always the scientifically proven fact that girls who seem interested in you always appear more attractive than those that won't give you the time of day. Vanity perhaps, but hey...
agreed... i hav this sort of oneitis and becuase of her(7) i missed two potential 8's
WhoAmI
Oxide
05-04-2003, 01:11 PM
I dont have a scale. Either you are ugly, or you are not very attractive, or you are nice, or you are very good lookin.
:)
Hot Ice
05-04-2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by Kwah
I judge everything with my jimmie. If he likes her thats all that matters.
Heh, my "jimmie" is finding a girl attractive enough rarely..
Whatever He says down there it is all I care.
He says NO, I say NO. He says YES, I say YES (or maybe :) )
If she is not to be fücked she is only friend material.
It's hard to think this way but,
I think that girls I could date is about 5-15% of girls overall..
If she is there. I am willing to operate further with this one. :D
That numeric system is really bad.
Practically we can't get THE REAL image of the girl by some guys words and by his own scale. We compare automatically the given rate to our wery own scale.
I agree with Starman here, though.
CyranoDeBergerac,
Well, that may be true with HOT girls..
But otherwise I disagree on that one.
Hypoxia
05-04-2003, 03:06 PM
Number systems are weak. They go with the same saying as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". By saying that I mean that one persons 9 may be anothers 6., etc....etc....
I personally just say "hey, she's a hottie" or I don't say anything at all.. I f I ever use the term "HB9" or any other number for that sake please bar from this board.. Let's talk about these ladies as people and not just numbers on an impossible scale. After all, isn't that what becoming a DJ is all about?
King Rat
05-04-2003, 03:58 PM
Ja, ist truen!
I never really got into the numbering sys... and now that I've been going thru the DJ Bible a few times, I'm looking at girls I'd formerly be panting after and going, "Is this chick even worth 5 minutes of my time?!" :p
TheInfamousCBear
05-04-2003, 04:33 PM
Here it is...This is what I go by....
1= I shouldnt have to say it...
2= If she offered to suck my dikk, I would let her, but I still would
have reservations and we cant be seen in public...Otherwise,
im not saying a damn thing to her..
3=Youre fun of the mill, default looking girl...Shes like the Honda
Civic of girls...
4= DAMN!
5= Girls that you see on TV who look good, but look like burnt
toast without makeup...Or some kind of goddess...
A1SteakSauce
05-05-2003, 01:09 AM
i feel bad for anyone who never met a 9 or 10. i've met a few in my life, they were like angels sent from heaven just to entertain me, there is nothing that makes me believe in god like a beautiful woman looking in my eyes
A1
CyranoDeBergerac
05-05-2003, 02:58 AM
Originally posted by Hot Ice
CyranoDeBergerac,
Well, that may be true with HOT girls..
But otherwise I disagree on that one.
Well yeah. There's always some girls that are ugly beyond all reason...:D
Starman
05-05-2003, 03:10 AM
Most women are truly hideous without make-up..and I have internalized this notion into my whole perspective on women..
Sure some byatch will think her sh1t dont stink..but try to imagine them without make-up..and see your AFC behavior diminish
jakethasnake
05-05-2003, 03:19 AM
GREAT point!
I know girls that look like 7s or barely 8s with a crapload of foundation and mascara, and without it, look like 5s or 6s. Let's say that you're a 6, and she is also a 6. Without makeup or heels or any other "cheating" device that women use, she's no better than you. Then, watch her fix and distort her TRUE image with extensive make up or heels-- and presto! She now thinks her shiat don't stink. Now you're "too short" or "not handsome enough". :rolleyes:
Don't be fooled. Imagine her without any foundation -- her naked sking with blackheads, scars, and blotchy skin -- exposed to the world. She knows deep down that she isn't the shiat. :D
You could probably even use some neg hits with this too. Something like, "I like your look. You look great with the make up! I wonder how you look without it, though?"
Starman
05-05-2003, 03:39 AM
I was at a wedding once..and got this chicks #..she was like a 5 or 6..and was like 5' 6"..Im 5'11"..but with heels..she was taller .. I overheard her say to a friend "He seems really cool..but he's kinda short isnt he?"
I didnt call her for 2 weeks..then she gave me the old "My fone is dying"
I saw her 5 months later at another party..and she had gained like 30 lbs..haha I just said hello..and ignored her the rest of the night..and she was all over me like flys on Sh1t..
Ubermensch
05-05-2003, 05:49 AM
First off, I don't think of gals in terms of number ratings, but if one used a linear scale, with an equal number of each rating, then there would be plenty of "9s" and "10s."
-Zero_h0uR-
05-05-2003, 09:47 AM
I have to agree with Starman...
I rate really hard. I will admit if the chick i was talking to is a 5 or a 6, or even a 4. Right now, I'm looking for the practice. Besides, we're all here for eachother... If you start small (3-4) noone here will really give you a hard time, as long as you're moving forward toward your goals.
We don't have to lie about how "extremely hot and amazing" the girl is, and we CAN'T put the girls on a pedestal. Remember, this board isn't just about getting laid, it's about improving the total package, and becoming everything you wish you were. I am on the fast track to my own personal success, and sure I have picked up some girls along the way, some 5's, some 7's, but that's not what it's about.
Just my piece...
Zero-
wheelin&dealin
05-05-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Starman
Most women are truly hideous without make-up..and I have internalized this notion into my whole perspective on women..
Very true...
When I go out to a club with my GF, she ranks up there with some of the hottest girls there. But when I see her when she isn't all done up... she looks gross.
jnallen
05-05-2003, 01:37 PM
A lot of it is beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A 9 or 10 to the bf may only a 5 or 6 to us. Infatuation also plays a role. I remember dating a chick one time and not thinking she was that great looking at first. By the time we broke up I thought she was the sexiest chick on the planet. Your mindand heart can really play tricks on you.
SexPDX
05-05-2003, 01:43 PM
SOLUTION TO RATINGS PROBLEM: Private forum where pictures can be posted.
That separates the wheat from the chaff REAL easily!
-PDX
icepick
05-05-2003, 01:50 PM
I have a very good looking friend (women say how hot he is all the time) that will only go for VERY UGLY WOMEN! (Not fat, but sometimes a bit chubby!) We all rag on him for it, but in his mind they are hot! He will blow off the "real" hot chicks that are hitting on him, and go hit on the uglys!
Very strange.
Paradox
05-05-2003, 04:19 PM
We have already established this in the past. The ratings are subjective. This means that a girl who is a 9 to you may only rank as a 7 to me. The poster expresses howhe percives the girl.
I was riding in a cab2 days ago and I commented about this fat woman we passed by. He said "Ya know, She is probably somebody's queen". Of course he was right.
I asked a couple of my friends to rate my model chick booty call girl. I say she is an 8.5. 4 of my friends said she was a 9 or 10. One guy said she was a 6. She is a swimsuit model. Maybe he has seen better. maybe he sees models everyday. Maybe she is too tall for him.
As far as a 9 or 10 being an actress or a supermodel....Well I have seen women on the train and bus who would put many of these actresses/supermodels to shame.
Starman
05-06-2003, 12:56 AM
Of course the rating are subjective..but what Im saying is open your eyes and try to be objective and realistic..by giving women a higher rating..you are pretty much surrendering the power into the females possession..because we know the most important criteria for men when selecting a woman is her looks
Do you hear anyone say "Yea this brood is a 9 in intelligence, and 8 on personality, a 9 in sense of humor"
The sole criteria people rank girls is their looks..man's main weakness
wheelin&dealin
05-06-2003, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by SexPDX
SOLUTION TO RATINGS PROBLEM: Private forum where pictures can be posted.
Yeah... you'd like that wouldn't you.
Then you wouldn't leave your computer all day because you'd be obsessed with wanking off to other guy's girlfriends.
I know the way you think PDX... :)
CyranoDeBergerac
05-06-2003, 04:53 AM
Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
Yeah... you'd like that wouldn't you.
Then you wouldn't leave your computer all day because you'd be obsessed with wanking off to other guy's girlfriends.
I bet you speak from experience here...
But seriously, its really funny when someone like you, who makes no qualms about his low standards and abject perversity, actually tries to knock someone like PDX, who not only has high standards, but consistently meets and exceeds them.
Quit being such a d1ck...but I geuss its true what they say, you are what you eat, huh?
becker
05-06-2003, 01:48 PM
Here's an idea, why don't we choose a girl on TV and we all rate her? That would give us sort of a good measure of how people on this board rate women.
Let's start with a more normal girl and not a star, so from reality shows maybe. How about the girl from Mr. Personality? Or that gym teacher on Survivor, Heidi? What would they be to you all?
wheelin&dealin
05-06-2003, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
I bet you speak from experience here...
But seriously, its really funny when someone like you, who makes no qualms about his low standards and abject perversity, actually tries to knock someone like PDX, who not only has high standards, but consistently meets and exceeds them.
Quit being such a d1ck...but I geuss its true what they say, you are what you eat, huh?
Who the f*ck are you?
Here's what's wrong with message boards. Little trolls with no skills like you, can yap at people like me and not know who the f*ck they're talking to.
I would eat you alive in real life.
I'm a 10 in looks and a 10 in DJ skills.
Compete with that... you fat, impotent, human sloth.
Time for you to climb back into the retard cave and seal the door shut.
...Oh yeah, and that "are what you eat" joke was REALLY FUNNY! I'm sure you're sense of humour does great with the ladies.
Hope this helps,
RKTek
05-06-2003, 02:05 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, which means that YOUR "10" is another guy's "7" or lower. And vice-versa.
Female beauty is highly subjective. Modern media, TV and movies don't help either. Most 'HB' hot actresses and models wouldn't be recognized on the street. Female movie stars and celebrities rely on makeup, careful lighting and sometimes air brushing or computer enhancement to make them better than normal.
Here are sites showing how hot-babe "10"'s really look:
http://womeninwigs.narod.ru/artificial_beauty/celebs1.htm
http://www.hereinreality.com/makeup.htm
www.ebaumsworld.com/celeb.html
http://www.geocities.com/fadjin/nomakeup/
i cant beleive they made me get a hard on before
hahahaha
100cagefighter
05-06-2003, 02:17 PM
If she is a 10 to the guy who likes her isn't that all that matters? He will react to a 10 if he sees a 10, right?
RK tek generally those celebrities are very goodlooking. THose are just awkard pictures. Of course other stuff helps them like the stuff u mentioned but they are generally pretty, jsut everyone sometimes has their bad days, apart from me of course, i look 100% fine and sexy everyday
InLawsHateMe
05-06-2003, 02:21 PM
Mine goes to 11 baby! 8)
...and she's got big breasts!
TheInfamousCBear
05-06-2003, 02:22 PM
Did you see Christina Aguleria in the first link? OMG I almost screamed....
Sisko
05-06-2003, 02:26 PM
Lol, but yes these are generaly a low quality pics of celebretes caut in the bad moment.
GirlCrazy
05-06-2003, 02:32 PM
My comment on the number rating system is that it's total BS. You either find a chick attractive or you don't. She either finds you attractive or doesn't. When you find each other attractive and you seem to get along well, then you hook up. And when I find some chick attractive it doesn't matter to me what some other guy rates her at.
Oxide
05-06-2003, 02:56 PM
Now, you need to chill out man.
Calling a person names when you have no idea what he looks like is the first sign of submission. Cyrano is highly respected by a lot of members on this board, and i wont let you or anyone else talk trash about him.
Saying that you are a perfect 10 is too immature, i dont know where you got all this arrogance from, but not from here. So do us all a favor and stop making an ass out of yourself.
CyranoDeBergerac
05-06-2003, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by wheelin&dealin
Who the f*ck are you?Precisely my question, though I am far closer to the truth than you are. Who are you to call PDX on his game, when he's gone sarging with other guyus from this forum and has been seen for the pimp he is. Not only that, but he's constantly getting better! Who are you to accuse PDX of sloth and armchair quarterbacking? Let me break it down for you...PDX=Pimp, Wheelin&dealin=pimp(le)Here's what's wrong with message boards. Little trolls with no skills like you, can yap at people like me and not know who the f*ck they're talking to.I beg to differ on that point, as that is most definitely a two way street, but I digress out of respect to those DJs who started and would continue to have an intellectual discussion. I would not wish to high-jack this thread and force it to be closed, thus robbing them of a valuable exchange of ideas.I would eat you alive in real life.Cannibalism! Yummy!I'm a 10 in looks and a 10 in DJ skills.
Compete with that... you fat, impotent, human sloth.Those are two very ambitious assumptions. As for the second you're wrong on three out of four counts (I am human after all) .As for your double 10 assertion, you've posted your pic and with that in mind, I assign it no more validity than the hallmark over-compensation of the tragically insecure.Time for you to climb back into the retard cave and seal the door shut.
...Oh yeah, and that "are what you eat" joke was REALLY FUNNY! I'm sure you're sense of humour does great with the ladies.
Yes, perhaps that was a bit beyond the limits of good taste. :D I will apologize for my part but won't be holding my breath for you to do the same. Since coming here, rare indeed have been the instances where you have actually contributed anything valuable to a thread.
Not only that, but the vast majority of your postings have been derogatory to the other posters, ridiculing them in so inane a fashion, and on such assinine premisis that you yourself have been little more than a cancer to these boards...Your ridiculous and unprovoked potshots against the other posters smack of a school-yard bully, and your vehement, caustic charges that 'you are who you are', et al. reek of the seething insecurity of an embittered fourteen year old striking out against its parents. This is the childish mood-swing which has shown itself to be the crux and ethos of your mindest. Worst of all, you show no visible signs of maturing anytime soon.
This, sir is where I take issue with you.
You are living your own life, and are free to continue doing so, and I would not ask you to stop. I simply ask that you refrain from leaving your squalid drivel strewn about the boards like a dog marking his territory in central park.
Hot Ice
05-06-2003, 05:17 PM
LMAO!
CyranoDeBergerac, wheelin&dealin....
Are you for real?
Oh, man.
*DING DING*
Round Three (3)!!!!
FIGHT!
Kill!
aww., you hurt my eye!
you guys are funny.
:D
becker
05-06-2003, 05:26 PM
Wow, ok...I must have missed something
cynetix
05-06-2003, 05:40 PM
Just like this one:
AT's "A Criticism of IL" (http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12397)
'nuff said.
cynetix
Umbra
05-06-2003, 07:20 PM
LOL... Thanks for the links. You just brought some of the stars back down to earth. My rating system goes from 0 to 10, by the way. That way, 5 is exactly in the middle. It's kind of based on the bell curve. :)
DJ Girevik
05-06-2003, 09:13 PM
*clears up confusion*
My ratings system
1) wouldn't date her.
2) would date her.
Simple yet effective.
Starman
05-06-2003, 09:23 PM
I cant believe some of you live in a black and white world..are you always either happy or sad? funny or unfunny? interesting or boring? Can you people not see that between black and white lies many shades of gray?
especially by saying "looks are in the eye of the beerholder" which means looks are not absolute..and whether she is ugly/beautiful varies from person to person..is a major contradiction..
I dont care how you guys rate your girls..my main point is Im pretty confident that when you rate your girl a 8 or 9 or 10..you are rating yourself a 4, 5 or 6
wheelin&dealin
05-06-2003, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by CyranoDeBergerac
Since coming here, rare indeed have been the instances where you have actually contributed anything valuable to a thread.
Not only that, but the vast majority of your postings have been derogatory to the other posters, ridiculing them in so inane a fashion, and on such assinine premisis that you yourself have been little more than a cancer to these boards...
The reason why I don't write out any long, thought-provoking posts is because... "I don't care". This is a big reason why I am successful and you are sitting there trying to disect every word of every sentence that I write. I don't give a sh*t what anyone writes on this board and this is a key aspect to the personality of a don juan. The people who do make a contribution to this board are not the real don juans, because the real don juans don't give a sh*t about internet message boards.
Oxide
05-06-2003, 10:44 PM
so, basically you do not give a **** of anyone on this board. have a safe trip!:rolleyes:
thissucks003
05-07-2003, 09:25 AM
Wheeling is just bitter because PDX went to Vancouver and asked other's from this board to hook up with him and go sarging, and wheeling feels PDX dissed him by not going out with him. Ever since then, wheeling has been pot shots at PDX at every opportunity. Give it up bro, that's in the past.
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