I've just read this article, and it got me thinking ...

http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...ing_to_have_daughters_rather_than_sons_.html#

It seems that, in the converse of what is going on in China & India, that American women now are choosing to sex-select (including even aborting boys :box: .) In the less developed economies of the world (Moslem polygynous socities excepted), men are prized and always in demand (it is virtually unheard of a decent man to not have marriageable women thrown his way (if not already decided for him by his parents.) Of course, in the USA, with its hypergamy, folks are realizing that a lot of men will not be able to find a decent marriageable woman (i.e., at an age before she goes on the c0ck carousel and has a kid, etc.), so it would make sense from an evolutionary POV that girls are considered as better.

Or perhaps it is just the matriarchy moving on to the next step? Or maybe just incredibly self absorbed women who want to have a daughter so that they can relive their own girl childhood followed by talking about the boys in her life as a teenager, and then finally going cougar-kitten cruising 2 decades later, etc.?

Dear MDJ,
Since when are Women motivated by altruistic concepts?....No Girls are a much better bet than Boys,your DNA spreads just as effectively,and you have the added benefit that they are more inclined to stick around,provide company and support....

Girls really are a blessing,if they have been brought up ethically they are more nurturing....I have three Sons and two daughters....Two years ago I had both the tie rod ends in my hips replaced,I hate Hospitals they are unhealthy places,so I discharged myself after a few Days....Would I have asked my lads for help?....And I don't think so,though dripping with communication devices,they are impossible to contact anyway...My Lassies came and got me into the back of my old wagon,then dragged me up 27 Painful steps,to my lair,when I laid up licking my wounds,like an old dog,for a week or so....They fed me,pulled the staples out of the wounds,I didn't want district nurses sniffing around....The Boys?,well the first came round after six weeks,cleaned out my Rum supplies,ate my Chocolate bickies,No if you are pulling an engine out or chopping down a tree,they are alright,but otherwise a dead loss!

No, sometimes it's dangerous when you think the rest of the world thinks like you. Most women aren't aware of or don't care about the dating imbalance.

Women prefer daughters because of several other reasons:

1.) Women perform better in today's Western world. They behave better, do better in terms of higher education, die later and live healthier, even make more money before they settle down and become mothers.

2.) Women want a daughter they will have something in common with. Much like men want a son.

3.) In terms of protection I suspect a daughter is BETTER for protection nowadays than a son. Unlike the old days where a older family needed their son to protect from bears, Indians, or droughts/blizzards an older family just needs a child to look after their needs and make sure they are safe and well-taken care of when they get old. As a nurse who used to work in nursing homes daughters are FAR superior to this than sons.

I see a gender imbalance right where I live-- in a mostly-white yuppie suburban commuterville. I've read elsewhere that diets associated with yuppie moms seems to make them more likely to produce girls. In fact, what I see is a 2-to-1 imbalance favoring girls. The girls here are gorgeous, I will add. It's anyone's guess what their dating issues are like. If I could die right now and come back as a teenage boy in this town, I'd have a screaming hardon 24-7! My volunteer projects send me to various middle schools around the area, and yuppie white suburban communities are all like this. Elsewhere, there's a more even balance.

Usually when you read this forum, you hear a lot about how awful, terrible, and inferior women are. So it's a bit of a shock to read Scaramouche and Fair Shake's posts praising daughters as being better than sons.

Not that I'm disagreeing, I just think it's interesting. Women's sense of loyalty and responsibility to their parents and familly is admirable. Why does this not extend to their husbands?

I wonder if women could divorce family members and receive half of their assets, what would be the result?

Dear Zecko,
"I wonder if women could divorce family members and receive half of their assets, what would be the result?"....how interesting,I shall give that some thought!!!

Well fvck, even assuming this "boys are losing" stuff isn't nonsense is it no wonder when your mom cries that you were born as you?

From the day you are born you are thought to be inferior and worse and then have all the accepted rules default to being against your very nature and you're expected to thrive?

Btw, our economy blows with women "winning" and less men with higher education. You regulate the part of the workforce that is the most productive to second class and don't nurture them as much to become awesomer and then act shocked when everything goes int the toilet.

I think it is come from man hating culture , I ll put an subject of how a lot of mothers feminizing their sons and husbands

zekko said:

Why does this not extend to their husbands?

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Human nature is to wander and to not compromise. Marriage is a giant compromise and it goes against human nature. Society is far more selfish than it used to be so the very things that make a successful marriage, compromise and loyalty, aren't in abundance anymore. They aren't in abundance in men either by the way and we are responsible for our fair share of failed marriages as well.

This is not a knock on marriage by the way. I think marriage is by far the best option out there for most people. Especially men. But it takes a lot of maturity and change to come to that conclusion.

Men and women have their strengths. I think women are far better in personal relationships. While I have an equal number of male and female friends and associates women outnumber men significantly amongst my closest friends. I've found this to be true among both women AND men I know. When family members I've known have divorced the ex-wife is often still invited to family get togethers. A couple of them get invites more often than their husbands who are related to us. But we have better relationships with the females.

Being a friend or family member doesn't require the same amount of compromise and loyalty that a spouse does. You are still free to live your own life and dip in and out of your friend or family member's life at regular intervals. Either the definition of marriage will have to change or people will have to change back to the old definitions of loyalty and compromise.

FairShake said:

. When family members I've known have divorced the ex-wife is often still invited to family get togethers. A couple of them get invites more often than their husbands who are related to us. But we have better relationships with the females.

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This is because women stick together

in any couple 99% of the time the woman runs the show as far as social life, parties to go to, who to invite places etc.

so if there is a break up..the woman will side with the women.

i've seen this in cases of brother vs brother....the married brother's wife doesn't let the brother invite his divorced brother over.

women's world is harsh and unyielding towards men, men are there for utility that is it...once the utility is over..the man is useless....most men will never comprehend this.

women are better socially...in the same way cobras are better at producing venom

All very true except...

the men in the family tend to like said women better too. They tend to be better family to us too. When my father died I heard from the wives of my cousins and uncles more than my cousins and uncles. My friends' wives called just as often as my friends.

i am a mother of 4. i have 2 sons and 2 daughters. i adore my sons and would never have chosen to rid myself of them. my only preference was that i hoped and prayed that they would all be healthy and that was it. my boys are good and are less demanding than my daughters.... and they have sweeter dispositions too.

@penkitten: you seem to have a natural family , most abortions of sons come from single moms

i used to be a single mother.

penkitten said:

i used to be a single mother.

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So you married an after the fact cuckoldee?