we need to get it together

backbreaker · Apr 29, 2012

men we have got to start as a collective hole setting freaking standards and sticking to them. even if it means being single.

half the **** that we put up with if not more than that can be easily diverted by just saying you know what, you aren't wroth it just because you aren't' ugly and have a Virgina

It's not even about me anymore. I'm very happily married. But I mean, I'm just sick and tired of seeing some of my associates who by all accounts shoudl have something that resembles a normal love live coming over my house and either supplementing to a woman that doesn't deserve the time of day or pouting every chance they get seedcase a girl who he thought was one of the good ones is off with her ex or whatever.

it used to be at age 28 or 30 or whatever you were really just now getting in your career, you started to have some type of undrestanding of the opposite sex./. maybe not sosuave type understanding but a basic understanding of what to look out for and you started to have a resemblance of fun. I'm the youngest of all my male friends and just about every last one of them are miserable.

part of the reason this happens is because women have no incentive for it not to happen. Why shoudl a woman act in your best interest if they are no consequences for not doing so? if you are going to act like a crying bafoon if she is fvcking 5 other guys at once and still beg her to date her why should she act right?

I had a guy over my house the other night who brought this chick over, he is about 31, she looked late 20's. not ugly, not super hot, pretty meh. a 6.5-7. nothing special. we were all supposed to go out to eat as a group then go catch a movie, it was about 8 of us total , like the entire time she was over myh house she is on the phone with someone. i could tell it was with either another plate or an EX beucase her voice would get really quit/ she would go into the bathroom to talk on the phone. so she was like over myh house for like an hour and 50 mintues or so she's on the phone. and i'm looking at this dude and you could tell he was pissed or not happy but refused to dos hit about it. And the entire time we are out he's trying to act boyfriendly and she's not really feeling it, like she's just htere for the free meal. it took every ounce of control I had to not curse her out in front of everyone i knew partly because she's a **** and partly because i know the guy and the guy is a good guy and dserves better than that. he really does. he tires to go in for a good night kiss and she gives him a hug. which I mean, it is what it is but damn ***** you never even gave him a chance the entire time you are out with him you are on the phone.

so now he's calling me, for some reason all of my friends look to me for dating advice, trying to figure out why she won't return his calls. And i can tell him this or that but you know what.. the real issue is that he shoudl have grabbed her **** and took her home the first time she picked up the phone with her ex. it's like women will put you in situations that are fvcked up and then blame you when they aren't attracted to you.

you got to start holding out for better. i'm so sick and ****ing tired of my friends bringing offensive lineman over my house, or girls playing silly games and girls playing friends against each other, all in the name of *****.

we as a collective hole need to take it off the pedistool

easun · Apr 29, 2012

backbreaker said:
the real issue is that he shoudl have grabbed her **** and took her home the first time she picked up the phone with her ex.

Exactly right, but I think men have been brainwashed not to stand up for themselves because of the feminist media. So basically, you should pull your buddy aside sometime and let him know what the heck he did wrong. It sounds like he is another hapless victim of the matrix.

SoldMySoul · Apr 29, 2012

What a freaking piece of work at your house!!! It just does not get any more disrespectful than this!! On the first several dates, the woman and the man should be on their best behavior and being on that damn phone is a no no!! If your date has to check in with a sitter or something, I can see, but that line can and will be misused too..

Too bad your friend put up with this sad state of affairs I love me ex woman!!

Night-hawk · May 3, 2012

Amen to that, guys.

zekko · May 3, 2012

SoldMySoul said:
What a freaking piece of work at your house!!! It just does not get any more disrespectful than this!! On the first several dates, the woman and the man should be on their best behavior and being on that damn phone is a no no!

Yeah, you want to talk about signs of low interest behavior, this is it. Sounds like she might have just taken the date in the first place to make her ex jealous or whoever she was on the phone with.

Anyway, BB, you've said you live in LA and there are so many hot women that they can't all get dates. Your boy should have plenty of options, what's his problem?

blindnowisee · May 3, 2012

@backbreaker - amen to that!

I'm getting sick and tired of the same type of posts as well. We need to man the F up - focus your time and energy on becoming a better person, expand your horizons, do something interesting (if you do not currently have a hobby that is somewhat interesting to talk about or something you are really passionate about - you need to sort your $hit out), travel the world, learn how to cook, become an all-round superstar; someone who you can rely on; someone who is independent and in control in every situation.

Then and only then start looking around for a relationship. Find a woman that complements your life - only invite women into your reality she ticks your boxes. Stop being intimidated by looks.. your mind set should be on finding somebody that you want to invite into your reality; someone who has her own $hit together - knows who she is and where she is going in life.

Youngsters should be developing their personality. This includes chasing tail for the sheer reasons of banging as many women as you can. You're young.. no mortgage yet.. no kids or labradors yet - this will all come quicker than you think so book that flight to Brazil; go to Rio; get laid.. Pack your back pack and wander around India. Do things that will make you a more interesting person and ffs stop worrying about 'finding a girl'.. makes me sick.. we should all be looking to create the life we want to live in and THEN you will find somebody who will complement it because your reality rocks! Even without a relationship you are one of the happiest people that they know - he must be awesome!

Ranting over - grow some balls, get laid and build the life you've always wanted. Stop whining about your women problems.

backbreaker · May 3, 2012

bradd80 said:
And how do you deal with women who have this kind of mentality and so many options? With such a lack of conscience.. these days it seems like all of them - whether a 6 or a 9 - are consumed with this way of thinking. Is walking away the only answer we have? Will we not just be walking into the arms of yet another, equally wh0rish woman??

I guess the answer is just to keep dating as many women as people, weed out the bad seeds based on experience and proper identification of red flags as early as possible, and hope you get lucky with a good woman who is actually decent looking and has a good head on her shoulders.

it's actually not as complicated as you make it out to be.

To understand how to keep a woman's interest you have to first understand to some degree what makes a woman tick.

Once you undestand in general how women process information and operate it's like taking a peice of candy and putting it just high enough where the 5 year old child cant' reach it and playing with them pretending you are going to give it to them.

what you have to first understand is that women are about emotions not logic. Do not confuse that with being logical. But logic does not make the panties drop. Women do not look at a guy and say okay here is my checklist... he has 8 out of 10 things on it, okay I suppose I can let the panties drop now.

now that you understand women's emotions drive their sexual appitate, now you can properly frame your strategy in dealing with them. The correct question to ask yourself is what can I do to rile up this woman's emotions the most.

The best thing you can do, at least from my experience is a combination of 1. not being available all the time, give her bits and pieces of you and dart out. Dating the first few weeks with a girl is a lot like being in a heavyweight fight with a world class boxer. You gotta have a good jab. You got to go Floyd Mayweather on that ass jab jab stick duck get out, dance around. give her 30 minutes, leave. give her 90 minute, leave. Give her enough attention to let her know you are attracted to her, enough to figure out that you are interested, but don't give her so much that she can write your book. Don't tell her anything about her. make her figure it out. Let her piece **** together, let her go on her own mental scavenger hunt trying to figure you out.

What you have to realize is that attraction, like a good weight lifting program, is not built when you are spending time with a woman ti's built when she is off thinking about you at night or when you aren't around thus you have to get rest or a break fro her to allow her do what she needs to do.
]

This is what we folks call "game". game is not so much what you say to a woman but making a woman think about you when you aren't around. game is getting a woman to fall for you. And what makes a woman wet is not so much what she knows about you but what she doesn't know.

This is why when I dated and was single everything I had in my house I had there for a very specific reason. women process all this ****. the mags on your coffee table, the movies you have out, the books you have, they are covertly figuring you out or so they think. women love this ****. what type of food does he eat? they look at your closet to guess what you do for a living by looking at your clothes. going through your medical cabinet to check for pills or condoms and ****. what kinda art if any do you have up what are you into for your hobbies? oh he has a picture of some building in dubai he must travel.

This is why some of the rules that are in basic DJ bible stuff are there. no dates over an hour. do not call right after a date, use the phone to set up dates only do not talk to a woman unless it's in person. you have to create separation.

so many guys are quick to blast the opposite sex when in reality.. they just don't have any game to put it bluntly. I've dated or slept with girls that guys thought were just impossible that within a few weeks were putty

So in short, show her you are attracted to her, but make her have to figure you out. The more she has to figure you out the more she has to think about you when you aren't around. The more she thinks about you when you aren't around the more attracted she is going to be, and right when you get her there that's when the fun really begins.

THIS, is when if you are spinning plates, the fun REALLY begins. becuase now she likes you as she is learnig about you and she has compeition and doesn't like it.

on this forum even, hell on this very page right now you see some guys who will accidentally do the first part correctly then the first time she shows any interest they fold like a house of cards.

you can't always be a mystery eventualy she will figure you out but once she figures you out there sholud have been enough attraction buitl to keep you around. mystery is like an hour glass once it runs out attraction needs to be established.

I was watching law and order last night.. i swear they are just pulling **** from sosauve now it's pretty blatant lol. to make a long story short, there was this guy who donated sperm in college , and a guy who hated him found out and started contacting the girls who he fathered and telling them that he was their long lost father. he would meet these girls, 15-17 years old, game them,showed them the fathers love they never had, and even though every last one of them thought that this guy was their dad, he fvcked every last one of them. one of them even thought he was the father to her new baby and could care less.

SecondHalf · May 3, 2012

Danger said:
This is a great post. In fact, this is how I succeeded in fuvking the enormous number of h0rs that have entered my life. It is also the exact reason my current girl chased the $hit out of me.

Agreed, I'm weak in game short of the initial attraction.
This taught me something.
The lack of this game has cost me dearly by not knowing of it other than very high level.

This is all in the Bible?

SH

lgbs2004 · May 3, 2012

backbreaker said:
it's actually not as complicated as you make it out to be.

To understand how to keep a woman's interest you have to first understand to some degree what makes a woman tick.

Once you undestand in general how women process information and operate it's like taking a peice of candy and putting it just high enough where the 5 year old child cant' reach it and playing with them pretending you are going to give it to them.

what you have to first understand is that women are about emotions not logic. Do not confuse that with being logical. But logic does not make the panties drop. Women do not look at a guy and say okay here is my checklist... he has 8 out of 10 things on it, okay I suppose I can let the panties drop now.

now that you understand women's emotions drive their sexual appitate, now you can properly frame your strategy in dealing with them. The correct question to ask yourself is what can I do to rile up this woman's emotions the most.

The best thing you can do, at least from my experience is a combination of 1. not being available all the time, give her bits and pieces of you and dart out. Dating the first few weeks with a girl is a lot like being in a heavyweight fight with a world class boxer. You gotta have a good jab. You got to go Floyd Mayweather on that ass jab jab stick duck get out, dance around. give her 30 minutes, leave. give her 90 minute, leave. Give her enough attention to let her know you are attracted to her, enough to figure out that you are interested, but don't give her so much that she can write your book. Don't tell her anything about her. make her figure it out. Let her piece **** together, let her go on her own mental scavenger hunt trying to figure you out.

What you have to realize is that attraction, like a good weight lifting program, is not built when you are spending time with a woman ti's built when she is off thinking about you at night or when you aren't around thus you have to get rest or a break fro her to allow her do what she needs to do.
]

This is what we folks call "game". game is not so much what you say to a woman but making a woman think about you when you aren't around. game is getting a woman to fall for you. And what makes a woman wet is not so much what she knows about you but what she doesn't know.

This is why when I dated and was single everything I had in my house I had there for a very specific reason. women process all this ****. the mags on your coffee table, the movies you have out, the books you have, they are covertly figuring you out or so they think. women love this ****. what type of food does he eat? they look at your closet to guess what you do for a living by looking at your clothes. going through your medical cabinet to check for pills or condoms and ****. what kinda art if any do you have up what are you into for your hobbies? oh he has a picture of some building in dubai he must travel.

This is why some of the rules that are in basic DJ bible stuff are there. no dates over an hour. do not call right after a date, use the phone to set up dates only do not talk to a woman unless it's in person. you have to create separation.

so many guys are quick to blast the opposite sex when in reality.. they just don't have any game to put it bluntly. I've dated or slept with girls that guys thought were just impossible that within a few weeks were putty

So in short, show her you are attracted to her, but make her have to figure you out. The more she has to figure you out the more she has to think about you when you aren't around. The more she thinks about you when you aren't around the more attracted she is going to be, and right when you get her there that's when the fun really begins.

THIS, is when if you are spinning plates, the fun REALLY begins. becuase now she likes you as she is learnig about you and she has compeition and doesn't like it.

on this forum even, hell on this very page right now you see some guys who will accidentally do the first part correctly then the first time she shows any interest they fold like a house of cards.

you can't always be a mystery eventualy she will figure you out but once she figures you out there sholud have been enough attraction buitl to keep you around. mystery is like an hour glass once it runs out attraction needs to be established.

I was watching law and order last night.. i swear they are just pulling **** from sosauve now it's pretty blatant lol. to make a long story short, there was this guy who donated sperm in college , and a guy who hated him found out and started contacting the girls who he fathered and telling them that he was their long lost father. he would meet these girls, 15-17 years old, game them,showed them the fathers love they never had, and even though every last one of them thought that this guy was their dad, he fvcked every last one of them. one of them even thought he was the father to her new baby and could care less.

Brilliant!!!!!

backbreaker · May 3, 2012

SecondHalf said:
Agreed, I'm weak in game short of the initial attraction.
This taught me something.
The lack of this game has cost me dearly by not knowing of it other than very high level.

This is all in the Bible?

SH

pretty much.

I still read one thread out of the DJ bible every day. but what I did was I found some posters when I came here who I really thought they got it and just read everything they wrote. Senor Fingers, A unit, a few others who i can't seem to remember at this time. but yeah. it's all here.

backbreaker · May 3, 2012

also, you have to have something about you.. let me rephrase. you have to give a woman a reason to want to see you to want to give you her business over the rest of the dudes she could be seeing. that doe snot mean you have to be the best looking or or have the most money..; you have to be somewhat interesting or do somewhat interesting things.

even when I was a complete total AFC, my onetisi woudl come over my house and just sit down and kick it with me quite often beucase i ahd **** going on all the time. someone was always at my house, there was a card game going on in the living room or friends were over having drinks. you might pop up at my house and there are 5-6 people drinking daquris watching a movie or something. my house has always been "that house" that people just gravitate to even now. which at times can get kinda annoying beucase i do like my alone time.

anyway, i will give you an example. i love old movies. my dad loved old movies and i grew up watching sidney pontier, humphery bogert and the like. My dad was really more into old westerns but I like pretty much all old movies. the story lines are much better and interesting and they don't depend on special effects to try to sale you the movie.

anyway, i have about, somewhere over 500 movies here, i add a few movies a month from around town or on the net or if someone recommends an old movie i will go look for it. I have some new ones too but about 75% of all my movies are in black and white.

so when I tell a girl who I have seen a few times, to come watch a movie with me, she knows she isn't going to sit down and watch some b rated summer half ass funny movie that the only reason I'm playing it is to get you close to me and we can kiss and ****. she's going to watch a real movie and a movie she probalby hasn't even heard of before and it's going to be interesting. usually i haven't even seen the movie, i haven't seen half the **** i have honestly. Anyone who knows me know that everything I do is very old school, from the way I dress to what I watch to what I listen to so you already know what the deal is going to be.

So what that means, is that when a woman has 3 guys who she could spend time with, she may or may not chose me bu tat least I clearly separate what my movie watching experience is going to be versus the others. plus she feels cultured and **** lol, like she is doing something special by watching old school movies. (this is why art galleries and museums are the safest dates on earth. lol even if she didn't have fun she will pretend to have a great time and see you again because she wants to act like she is smart and **** and can appreciate the art)

Not only that, say a woman is bored on a tuesday night. nothing to do. she has 3 guys she knows. which one of us is the most likely to purely ENTERTAIN her? I am. that gets me more opportunities to do what i do and set the hook in deeper.

doesn't cost money to have your own personality and to be an interesting person.

HBK · May 3, 2012

I'm guilty for this.

Last relationship which was over 16 months ago, I put up with a lot of crap for an Ex GF. I was an idiot, and looking back I regret not calling her up on it and dumping her ass.

Since then, I spent time focusing on other parts of my life, and desires i had such as travelling and my career. Also focused on getting healthy again, and naturally women follow when your confident.

Too many of my friends in their late 20's now have just settled. Their GF's are ok, but are lazy, uninteresting, and just want to get married etc.. I understand the body clock issue with women, but the guys just put up with their BS 24/7, like i did. They leave party's early as she is "tired". When they eventually get a weekend off with the guys, the GF is calling/texting all night, and they get silent treatment all the next day, because they didn't spend the night calling their GF's letting them know they love them etc. It's such crap. They like a picture on FB, their GF's pounce on them. The list goes on and on. Most women i know are really Emotionally Immature. My sister is the worst. She is 31, BF is 33. She's a teacher and that's all she can talk about. Her BF is quite, and just sits their and put's up with all her moaning and pity. They never go out, and if he want's to go for drink on a Sat night, she will pretend she is sick, or say she's tired to make him feel guilty. What's wrong with Men!???????

I left home last year and went travelling the world. Before I left, my career was in a rut. I was working with the same company for 6 years, and while at first promising, the atmosphere got toxic when the financial meltdown kicked in. Managers, who had no experience in dealing with crises, turned on their staff. Lots of backstabbing, and * * * * * ing, and incompetent managers, job cuts, terminations, and workplace bullying. My workload was doubled, and no extra resources were hired. My quality of life was miserable, and often worked 60+ hours a week. Not getting paid for the overtime either, as were my colleagues. I no longer enjoyed what I was doing. Plus dealing with an Ex GF who was disrespecting me.

But I prevailed, and was loyal to the company. But It got so bad in the end, I just had enough. When you are getting brought up over every little thing, and no encouragement and resolutions from the business side end, I said to myself I'm 28, I have more than enough experience now on my CV and it's time for a change. I don't think they expected me to leave. Had i stayed i would of ended up taking a massive pay cut (again) and an extra workload. It felt like prison.

It was a risk leaving a paying job in a recession, however I didn't have responsibilities like a child, wife, or mortgage. It was my plan to travel abroad for career purposes when with my Ex. But then the opportunity finally presented itself, and I took it. With what savings I had, I bought a plane ticket and packed my backpack to off on the greatest adventure of my life.

I cannot recommend enough in doing travelling. Listen to your gut! Ignore the begrudger s, and believe me as you well know, there is plenty people out there who will try and knock you down, and try and convince you that your crazy to go. I know have a great new job, and i'm happy doing what i like again.

It's the greatest learning curve i have ever had. Women can make you happy, but they don't define you. If you make a woman your main priority you are destined to fail, and she won't respect you.

SecondHalf · May 3, 2012

backbreaker said:
also, you have to have something about you.. let me rephrase. you have to give a woman a reason to want to see you to want to give you her business over the rest of the dudes she could be seeing. that doe snot mean you have to be the best looking or or have the most money..; you have to be somewhat interesting or do somewhat interesting things.

even when I was a complete total AFC, my onetisi woudl come over my house and just sit down and kick it with me quite often beucase i ahd **** going on all the time. someone was always at my house, there was a card game going on in the living room or friends were over having drinks. you might pop up at my house and there are 5-6 people drinking daquris watching a movie or something. my house has always been "that house" that people just gravitate to even now. which at times can get kinda annoying beucase i do like my alone time.

anyway, i will give you an example. i love old movies. my dad loved old movies and i grew up watching sidney pontier, humphery bogert and the like. My dad was really more into old westerns but I like pretty much all old movies. the story lines are much better and interesting and they don't depend on special effects to try to sale you the movie.

anyway, i have about, somewhere over 500 movies here, i add a few movies a month from around town or on the net or if someone recommends an old movie i will go look for it. I have some new ones too but about 75% of all my movies are in black and white.

so when I tell a girl who I have seen a few times, to come watch a movie with me, she knows she isn't going to sit down and watch some b rated summer half ass funny movie that the only reason I'm playing it is to get you close to me and we can kiss and ****. she's going to watch a real movie and a movie she probalby hasn't even heard of before and it's going to be interesting. usually i haven't even seen the movie, i haven't seen half the **** i have honestly. Anyone who knows me know that everything I do is very old school, from the way I dress to what I watch to what I listen to so you already know what the deal is going to be.

So what that means, is that when a woman has 3 guys who she could spend time with, she may or may not chose me bu tat least I clearly separate what my movie watching experience is going to be versus the others. plus she feels cultured and **** lol, like she is doing something special by watching old school movies. (this is why art galleries and museums are the safest dates on earth. lol even if she didn't have fun she will pretend to have a great time and see you again because she wants to act like she is smart and **** and can appreciate the art)

Not only that, say a woman is bored on a tuesday night. nothing to do. she has 3 guys she knows. which one of us is the most likely to purely ENTERTAIN her? I am. that gets me more opportunities to do what i do and set the hook in deeper.

doesn't cost money to have your own personality and to be an interesting person.

Nice post BB.
My house is not so interesting to people unless they're 14. My son has pretty much runs a setup you speak of (less the gambling), my job is keeping the fridge full and making sure the minor's parents don't ever get any legal opportunity to sue me (uggh - single primary dad is tough!).

But I understand the picture of the home / man you're painting.

I don't think I'll allow myself to go Beta again. It's a loss, will always be a loss!.
It's funny, at work, in a room with a hundred people present, when I clear my throat, the room goes silent, people listen. In a relationship, I .... integrate. Ironic that that is my field Integration Expert lol.

I'll start paying attention to the bible (although, I'm 49, and a lot seems inapplicable).

Enough about me and my hijacking, I will be an avid supporter of "Enough".
No woman will get an elevated ego from me. I'm done. A cold slap of reality is all will be communicated from me if required.

There have been many threads on this site and elsewhere....
Boys are expected to behave like girls in school. We're different, WTF?
All the men who have been socially neutered as children, have to stop enabling women to feel such entitlement that men are disposable.

Got rid of my first long term orbiter tonight from having unrealistic expectations of control. She didn't like it

.

I'll report into this thread all women that I metaphorically "slap"!

SH

backbreaker · May 3, 2012

SecondHalf said:
Nice post BB.
My house is not so interesting to people unless they're 14. My son has pretty much runs a setup you speak of (less the gambling), my job is keeping the fridge full and making sure the minor's parents don't ever get any legal opportunity to sue me (uggh - single primary dad is tough!).

But I understand the picture of the home / man you're painting.

I don't think I'll allow myself to go Beta again. It's a loss, will always be a loss!.
It's funny, at work, in a room with a hundred people present, when I clear my throat, the room goes silent, people listen. In a relationship, I .... integrate. Ironic that that is my field Integration Expert lol.

I'll start paying attention to the bible (although, I'm 49, and a lot seems inapplicable).

Enough about me and my hijacking, I will be an avid supporter of "Enough".
No woman will get an elevated ego from me. I'm done. A cold slap of reality is all will be communicated from me if required.

There have been many threads on this site and elsewhere....
Boys are expected to behave like girls in school. We're different, WTF?
All the men who have been socially neutered as children, have to stop enabling women to feel such entitlement that men are disposable.

Got rid of my first long term orbiter tonight from having unrealistic expectations of control. She didn't like it .

I'll report into this thread all women that I metaphorically "slap"!

SH

rotfl i mean make no mistake my house is not the shadow gallery or some **** lol. i mean, i have some unique stuff.. i like big band / jazz art so i have some of that. my bed room is 100% japanese furniture, but at the same time i have a kid that will be 4 in 3 days and it won't take you 5 seconds after you step in my house to realize that between the power wheel that is somewhere parked in the middle of the front yard or the legos that you will break your ankle stepping on. and some of the stuff i had, i had a bronze of my fav race horse i had to put in the storage because my son thought it would be fun to use it to play fetch with the dog.

i'm the exact opposite as you are. I started now 2 companies but the first company my business partner was the CEO. i don't relish that role. I'm more of a silvo dante type person from the sopranos. I mean i will make decisions and i come up with ideas but the day to day running **** i don't do that very well, even now my securatry and lead developer pretty much run day to day operations with the web development. i don't do well at bossing people around. with the other company i had my partner would bounce ideas off me and we would develop game plans and outlooks and things together and if i put my foot down on something he knew i meant it and i got my way but just the every day runing the company i let him do that. i relish being the guy behind the curtains. that's how i best operete making sure things behind the show run smoothly.

but at home i run this **** lol.

SecondHalf · May 3, 2012

backbreaker said:
also, you have to have something about you.. let me rephrase. you have to give a woman a reason to want to see you to want to give you her business over the rest of the dudes she could be seeing. that doe snot mean you have to be the best looking or or have the most money..; you have to be somewhat interesting or do somewhat interesting things.

even when I was a complete total AFC, my onetisi woudl come over my house and just sit down and kick it with me quite often beucase i ahd **** going on all the time. someone was always at my house, there was a card game going on in the living room or friends were over having drinks. you might pop up at my house and there are 5-6 people drinking daquris watching a movie or something. my house has always been "that house" that people just gravitate to even now. which at times can get kinda annoying beucase i do like my alone time.

anyway, i will give you an example. i love old movies. my dad loved old movies and i grew up watching sidney pontier, humphery bogert and the like. My dad was really more into old westerns but I like pretty much all old movies. the story lines are much better and interesting and they don't depend on special effects to try to sale you the movie.

anyway, i have about, somewhere over 500 movies here, i add a few movies a month from around town or on the net or if someone recommends an old movie i will go look for it. I have some new ones too but about 75% of all my movies are in black and white.

so when I tell a girl who I have seen a few times, to come watch a movie with me, she knows she isn't going to sit down and watch some b rated summer half ass funny movie that the only reason I'm playing it is to get you close to me and we can kiss and ****. she's going to watch a real movie and a movie she probalby hasn't even heard of before and it's going to be interesting. usually i haven't even seen the movie, i haven't seen half the **** i have honestly. Anyone who knows me know that everything I do is very old school, from the way I dress to what I watch to what I listen to so you already know what the deal is going to be.

So what that means, is that when a woman has 3 guys who she could spend time with, she may or may not chose me bu tat least I clearly separate what my movie watching experience is going to be versus the others. plus she feels cultured and **** lol, like she is doing something special by watching old school movies. (this is why art galleries and museums are the safest dates on earth. lol even if she didn't have fun she will pretend to have a great time and see you again because she wants to act like she is smart and **** and can appreciate the art)

Not only that, say a woman is bored on a tuesday night. nothing to do. she has 3 guys she knows. which one of us is the most likely to purely ENTERTAIN her? I am. that gets me more opportunities to do what i do and set the hook in deeper.

doesn't cost money to have your own personality and to be an interesting person.

Odd, it repeated my old post. Have to think again, ignore.

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

we need to get it together

backbreaker

Master Don Juan

easun

Don Juan

SoldMySoul

Master Don Juan

Night-hawk

Master Don Juan

zekko

Master Don Juan

blindnowisee

Don Juan

backbreaker

Master Don Juan

SecondHalf

Master Don Juan

lgbs2004

Senior Don Juan

backbreaker

Master Don Juan

backbreaker

Master Don Juan

HBK

Master Don Juan

SecondHalf

Master Don Juan

backbreaker

Master Don Juan

SecondHalf

Master Don Juan