chicago#one
Don Juan
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Alright, this post is mostly for my own benefit, in trying to sort out the science. I hope others get soemthing out of it too. This is probably in the DJB somewhere.
On the discussion board we are asked everyday, what the fuk do I say to her? As we all know, as soon as you open your mouth, she will stop, and yell to everyone around: "look at this pathetic loser talking to me!" Actually, chances are she is as scared shytless as you are, and we all know that women are trained to not approach men. Even the good looking ones are shy at times, and will not respond unless you are confident and a bit persistent, as this is the mechanism to weed out all the losers that talk to her every five minutes.
There are six stages of conversation, when doing a cold approach in a non pickup environment.
1) Small talk. Anyone can do this, but only a DJ can progress past this. The subject matter is the surrounding environment, or a small event that just happened in the vicinity just that minute. Smile. Measure the response. Is there eye contact? Did she smile back? Good job, your in, but you aren't done. Did she give short answers, avert her eyes? She may not be interested. Or, she may be nervous as hell, so don't bail out yet.
2) Introduction. "My name is chicago#one, what's yours?". extend hand. Keep it casual. This is the first opportunity for the kino, get it? She says. "my name is HB". Nice to meet you, HB. Repeat her name, so you don't forget it, you dummy.
3) Casual conversation: Follow up with a complement; do not complement her on her looks, no matter how hard your d*ck is. Article of clothing, book she's reading, something external. Even on her mood, i.e. "you seem like your in good spirits today...", etc. Guage reaction; if she still hasn't warmed up, plan your graceful exit. If she smiles, says, thank you, you're in. Hit her up with an open ended question related to the last remark.
This is where the AFC will choke, and revert to level one. Don't do this, unless you are looking for an exit, because that is what it is.
You don't want to leave, you ain't done yet.
4) Keeping the flow. If she is only answering your questions with short answers, ask her to elaborate? "Oh really? What is it like to travel across the Indian Ocean on a freight train?". Listen to what she says. If there are pauses in the flow, ask another question. Then test her; if there is another lull, wait to see if she carries the conversation. If she picks it up, then you're definetely in.
5) Find the common ground. However, once you find it, do not revert to talking endlessly about a subject you know all about. In fact, try to find something you are interested in, but know little about. People like to talk about themselves. The time is to let her do that. Relate to her emotions, i.e. "I know what you mean, i remeber there was this time when I felt the same way....", blah blah. Elicit vaules, as the ASF people will say; except you ain't trying to **** her right there, so easy boy, or she'll smell the desparation.
6) The close. You have developed rapport, some common ground, and if you were playing it right, a bit of flirtatious banter. Say "I have to run, but I would like to call you sometime so that we could talk more. Give me your number and I'll call you sometime". Anything other than a home number is a bad sign, but it likely has nothing to do with you if you made it this far. She may blow you off when you try to call her. Or, you may get a date out of the deal, to decide if she is worth pursuing on a more serious level. Have her write it down if possible. Give her yours, understanding she is not likely to call you first. If she balks, then thank her for the conversation, and bail (you already set this up when you asked for the number, so it won't be awkward).
Now you have to call her.
On the discussion board we are asked everyday, what the fuk do I say to her? As we all know, as soon as you open your mouth, she will stop, and yell to everyone around: "look at this pathetic loser talking to me!" Actually, chances are she is as scared shytless as you are, and we all know that women are trained to not approach men. Even the good looking ones are shy at times, and will not respond unless you are confident and a bit persistent, as this is the mechanism to weed out all the losers that talk to her every five minutes.
There are six stages of conversation, when doing a cold approach in a non pickup environment.
1) Small talk. Anyone can do this, but only a DJ can progress past this. The subject matter is the surrounding environment, or a small event that just happened in the vicinity just that minute. Smile. Measure the response. Is there eye contact? Did she smile back? Good job, your in, but you aren't done. Did she give short answers, avert her eyes? She may not be interested. Or, she may be nervous as hell, so don't bail out yet.
2) Introduction. "My name is chicago#one, what's yours?". extend hand. Keep it casual. This is the first opportunity for the kino, get it? She says. "my name is HB". Nice to meet you, HB. Repeat her name, so you don't forget it, you dummy.
3) Casual conversation: Follow up with a complement; do not complement her on her looks, no matter how hard your d*ck is. Article of clothing, book she's reading, something external. Even on her mood, i.e. "you seem like your in good spirits today...", etc. Guage reaction; if she still hasn't warmed up, plan your graceful exit. If she smiles, says, thank you, you're in. Hit her up with an open ended question related to the last remark.
This is where the AFC will choke, and revert to level one. Don't do this, unless you are looking for an exit, because that is what it is.
You don't want to leave, you ain't done yet.
4) Keeping the flow. If she is only answering your questions with short answers, ask her to elaborate? "Oh really? What is it like to travel across the Indian Ocean on a freight train?". Listen to what she says. If there are pauses in the flow, ask another question. Then test her; if there is another lull, wait to see if she carries the conversation. If she picks it up, then you're definetely in.
5) Find the common ground. However, once you find it, do not revert to talking endlessly about a subject you know all about. In fact, try to find something you are interested in, but know little about. People like to talk about themselves. The time is to let her do that. Relate to her emotions, i.e. "I know what you mean, i remeber there was this time when I felt the same way....", blah blah. Elicit vaules, as the ASF people will say; except you ain't trying to **** her right there, so easy boy, or she'll smell the desparation.
6) The close. You have developed rapport, some common ground, and if you were playing it right, a bit of flirtatious banter. Say "I have to run, but I would like to call you sometime so that we could talk more. Give me your number and I'll call you sometime". Anything other than a home number is a bad sign, but it likely has nothing to do with you if you made it this far. She may blow you off when you try to call her. Or, you may get a date out of the deal, to decide if she is worth pursuing on a more serious level. Have her write it down if possible. Give her yours, understanding she is not likely to call you first. If she balks, then thank her for the conversation, and bail (you already set this up when you asked for the number, so it won't be awkward).
Now you have to call her.
