backbreaker
Master Don Juan
Be yourself. However you are, be it.
This has nothing to do with women whatsoever actually. A little back story, I still sale websites for my web company. IF you ever met me outside of the forum and saw how I work you will see that It's quite the contrast to how I am here. I am detail oriented to a fault. I am extremely meticulous. I mean **** I'm a programmer by trade basically.
Some of my clients, would not like it (Espeically women for some reason). "this is too much to read" or "I don't have time to go through all of this stuff can you just tell me how much money this will cost me" are things i would here often enough.
Somehow I tricked myself into dumming down what I do, and my sales had plummeted. First and foremost, by dumming what I do down, I wasn't separating myself from the pack. I came to the realization that
just because someone wants you to do something that makes their life/ choices easier, doesn't mean it's the right thing for you to do, because their interest and your interest are not one in the same.
Clients weren't telling me what I needed to do to sale them, they were telling me what I needed to do to make their lives more convenient. There is a huge difference between the two.
Clients do not have a vested interest in making sure I get their business. They are interested in making their decision process as painless as possible.
IF I have to tell you how that applies to women, you have a lot to learn.
Just beucase a woman tells you she likes something or she wants yyou to do something a certain way doesn't mean that's the way it should be done, she isn't telling you what it's going to take to make her head over heels in love with you, she's telling you what you need to do to fit neatly into her already reconstructed of world of how things are. She doesn't want you to come in and turn your world up side down
This is why I still, if not the only reason why I still run my web development business. to be frank i don't need the money but I'm still learning things. I know I'm young and I know I don't know everything. I learn something new all the time.
However the hell you are, be that person. If that client is too busy to to sit down and read a 10 page proposal than f'em. we weren't going to work together anyway because that's just how i roll.
Also becuase subconsciously I know I did not put my best foot forward, I am not as confident. I follow up too much (call too much) I am wiling to negatate price more (doing what she wants to do for a date versus what yo want to do in hopes to satisfy her)
Business is alot like dating, in the sense that for a client and I to have a successful relationship a strong fame has to be set by me, the provider. If we are going to move forward, there are certain things you are going to have to accept and do.
I had a client over the weekend, very very easy job we can knock out in like 4 days. talk to the guy, again, i haven't put my best foot forward. usually our payment terms are half up front half when done, zero exceptions unless i've workedw tih you before. usually if i put my best foot forward and you don't ahere to this and you dont' have a damn good reason not to, you can go. I'm lientnt when common sense comes to play but if you have trust issues after i have just put my best foot forward, and I just how effect my feet are lol, and i send you seriously, 50 references lol, than that **** is on you. But, he didn't want to do that, so i adjusted the terms, started the project, and now the guy has just disappeared (flaked out)
the irony being that you can't make someone happy even by doing what they ask, adjusting to their terms.
Like DD says, attraction is not a choice. That's how in retrospect I remember millie used to get up in arms about my other plates and how i was never available and threaten to leave all the time,, yet would come over no questions asked when I called and asked her to do so. Just because she didn't like what I was doing doesn't mean it wasn't effective, it was just inconvenient to her. Just like my business, if I do my job targeting my projects, you may not like ti but if you do your due diligence, you don't' have a choice but to hire me because I'm the best candidate and you want the best product.
This has nothing to do with women whatsoever actually. A little back story, I still sale websites for my web company. IF you ever met me outside of the forum and saw how I work you will see that It's quite the contrast to how I am here. I am detail oriented to a fault. I am extremely meticulous. I mean **** I'm a programmer by trade basically.
Some of my clients, would not like it (Espeically women for some reason). "this is too much to read" or "I don't have time to go through all of this stuff can you just tell me how much money this will cost me" are things i would here often enough.
Somehow I tricked myself into dumming down what I do, and my sales had plummeted. First and foremost, by dumming what I do down, I wasn't separating myself from the pack. I came to the realization that
just because someone wants you to do something that makes their life/ choices easier, doesn't mean it's the right thing for you to do, because their interest and your interest are not one in the same.
Clients weren't telling me what I needed to do to sale them, they were telling me what I needed to do to make their lives more convenient. There is a huge difference between the two.
Clients do not have a vested interest in making sure I get their business. They are interested in making their decision process as painless as possible.
IF I have to tell you how that applies to women, you have a lot to learn.
Just beucase a woman tells you she likes something or she wants yyou to do something a certain way doesn't mean that's the way it should be done, she isn't telling you what it's going to take to make her head over heels in love with you, she's telling you what you need to do to fit neatly into her already reconstructed of world of how things are. She doesn't want you to come in and turn your world up side down
This is why I still, if not the only reason why I still run my web development business. to be frank i don't need the money but I'm still learning things. I know I'm young and I know I don't know everything. I learn something new all the time.
However the hell you are, be that person. If that client is too busy to to sit down and read a 10 page proposal than f'em. we weren't going to work together anyway because that's just how i roll.
Also becuase subconsciously I know I did not put my best foot forward, I am not as confident. I follow up too much (call too much) I am wiling to negatate price more (doing what she wants to do for a date versus what yo want to do in hopes to satisfy her)
Business is alot like dating, in the sense that for a client and I to have a successful relationship a strong fame has to be set by me, the provider. If we are going to move forward, there are certain things you are going to have to accept and do.
I had a client over the weekend, very very easy job we can knock out in like 4 days. talk to the guy, again, i haven't put my best foot forward. usually our payment terms are half up front half when done, zero exceptions unless i've workedw tih you before. usually if i put my best foot forward and you don't ahere to this and you dont' have a damn good reason not to, you can go. I'm lientnt when common sense comes to play but if you have trust issues after i have just put my best foot forward, and I just how effect my feet are lol, and i send you seriously, 50 references lol, than that **** is on you. But, he didn't want to do that, so i adjusted the terms, started the project, and now the guy has just disappeared (flaked out)
the irony being that you can't make someone happy even by doing what they ask, adjusting to their terms.
Like DD says, attraction is not a choice. That's how in retrospect I remember millie used to get up in arms about my other plates and how i was never available and threaten to leave all the time,, yet would come over no questions asked when I called and asked her to do so. Just because she didn't like what I was doing doesn't mean it wasn't effective, it was just inconvenient to her. Just like my business, if I do my job targeting my projects, you may not like ti but if you do your due diligence, you don't' have a choice but to hire me because I'm the best candidate and you want the best product.
