What would be your advice to a man whose wife won't put out?

[MatureDJ]

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2011/10/dear_prudence_my_wife_doesn_t_want_sex_so_i_visit_ prostitutes_.html?wpisrc=newsletter_slatest

Perhaps he is being too nice?

Over the years, to increase the likelihood that my wife would be in the mood, I cooked, did chores, and helped as much as possible with child care. She would frequently say she was too tired for sex, although she would not be too tired to stay up late reading or watching TV.

[Scaramouche]

Dear MDJ,
There is No cure for this affliction,game them all you like....You may gain grudging acqiescence for a while,then they inevitably revert back to type....three choices:1.Celibacy.
2.Escorts and affairs,a month in Phuket every year.
3.Move on.

[sodbuster]

FILE for divorce AFTER you have some cash stashed and advice from the best divorce lawyer in town

[Mr.Positive]

The best advise is prevention, prevent the problem from occurring in the first place...

Don't get married!

When you can walk away, these problems never seem to surface to begin with. Love, laugh, live life like's it's going to end the next day...but, don't get married.

[Buddha_Mind]

^ what Mr. Positive said ^

There's a thread of Roissy's somewhere where he talks about the AFC downward marriage sex spiral...sounds like this guy has gone too AFC awhile back and lost frame...there may or may not be hope for reverting things depending on the situation...he's going to have to pickup flirting and game again on his wife, he can't expect to keep her juices flowing without some constant work and effort...

Marriage...yiiikkkes...if I could have a happy active (includes sexual) marriage where we bring out the best in each other...yes maybe...but goddamn I just hardly see this working for anyone anymore...it's incredibly discouraging...I do believe there is some value to committed monogamy for the human mind (this does not mean the committed monogamy has to be some grueling boring sh!tty thing) -- I do question if an endless string of STRs are good for the mind or not...but, I imagine most, especially the older gents, have seen so much BS from divorce [I know I have], etc, I can't imagine marriage has a good light in a lot of people's minds...but I also wonder under what mindset most of these people entered into marriage under, what pretenses, and how seriously they perceived the commitment. Anyone can get married -- it's easy -- but finding two people who perceive it in the same way, or are willing to go to the same lengths, is probably the most difficult part.

[Burroughs]

Wow a man shamed for wanting to fvck his wife on a regular basis.

The outrage here is that society allows married women to do this. Women know men want to fvck, women deny men as a POWERPLAY not because they are 'tired'. But the women is heroic, 'raising kids', exhausted after a 'long days work' who just wants to sit and read a book. But let a man even complain about this and he becomes a homer simpson neanderthal.

If a woman does not want to fvck her man in the context of a 'marriage' he should be free to find his fun elsewhere. Of course the wife doesn't want THAT. She wants to control the sexual toll booth NEITHER FVCKING NOR ALLOWING HIM TO FVCK, enhancing her power and keeping her husband frustrated and tamed. It has nothing to do with 'tired'...a handjob, BJ, or bending over the sink doesn't take a lot of effort... :) If I take out the trash you can svck my d1ck right? and should be fvcking mandatory three times a week so long as the marriage exists...or the contract is broken, with no alimony forthcoming

[zekko]

Remember that post recently about the French woman who had successfully sued her ex-husband for not giving her enough sex when they were married? I think he had to give her an extra $12,000. Seems we have the same thing here but in reverse.

It seems unlikely that the guy has a prayer of winning such a suit here. But I wouldn't be surprised if the wife could sue her husband for putting her at risk for STDs by using a prostitute.

[evelsteve]

Funny how some women LOVE to have kids, but then don't want to have sex. Weird.

It's like people who'd LOVE to go to heaven, but they don't want to die. LOL

[backbreaker]

honestly, need to see pics of the guy. there might be more to the story. maybe he just isn't attractive anymore or she isn't attracted to him anymore. we can sit here and shame her all day long but if he put on 50 pounds,ould you **** your wife if she put on 50 pounds?


contary to popular belief, there are also guys who "let the gut hang" once they are married as they figure their work is done.

[Warrior74]

honestly, need to see pics of the guy. there might be more to the story. maybe he just isn't attractive anymore or she isn't attracted to him anymore. we can sit here and shame her all day long but if he put on 50 pounds,ould you **** your wife if she put on 50 pounds?


contary to popular belief, there are also guys who "let the gut hang" once they are married as they figure their work is done.

Irrelevant. I had a business partner of mine who is an overweight guy, and his wife is slightly overweight. Anway she stopped putting out, start being a constant bytch, even staying out late, etc etc. He tried supplicating more and more to get her to respond. She went to her sisters for a weekend and he hit me up, almost in tears about losing his family. We talked and I told him about some of the basic principles of game. We eventually got to the point where I could share Dave in Hawaii's story with him. He said it changed his life.
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/relationship-game-week-a-readers-journey/

it's been about 6 months. He says their relationship is better than ever. that's what you do when your wife won't put out. You fix it. With game.

[backbreaker]

i'm just saying. if my wife put on 50 pounds, i'm probalby not going to want to **** her. i think that's pretty revelant.

[Warrior74]

i'm just saying. if my wife put on 50 pounds, i'm probalby not going to want to **** her. i think that's pretty revelant.



And if your wife was already fat when you met her then weight is not that much of a relevant issue compared to how she made you feel. If she put on 50lbs and turned into a stone cold bytch vs. put on 50 lbs and daily blow jobs and being an awesome help mate. See how that works? Most people aren't ectomorphs you know.

[Strelok]

The best advise is prevention, prevent the problem from occurring in the first place...

Don't get married!

When you can walk away, these problems never seem to surface to begin with. Love, laugh, live life like's it's going to end the next day...but, don't get married.
THIS^^

What is the sense of marriage anymore? you get from a girlfriend the same stuff you get from a wife, however the wife gains so many rights on you that you're fked according to her mood or the last bvllsh1t she hear on tv.

She doesnt want sex anymore? She gest too fat to make you hard?
1) you live sexless forever
2)you leave her and say bye to half of your life
3)you cheat, she leaves you and get even more than half of your life

Its not an opinion its a fact.
The simply knowledge that you cant leave her is like a property document where she owns your ass, while a girls that knows you can leave her will do
her best to make sure you dont.

[pdx1138]

Funny how some women LOVE to have kids, but then don't want to have sex.

Some women completely lose their libido after having kids.

It's a known sexual dysfunction in women.

[Slickster]

We eventually got to the point where I could share Dave in Hawaii's story with him. He said it changed his life.
http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2009/08/14/relationship-game-week-a-readers-journey/

it's been about 6 months. He says their relationship is better than ever. that's what you do when your wife won't put out. You fix it. With game.

Read the excellent article provided by Warrior and really let it sink in. This is exactly how you fix this problem.

Any time you hear a guy complaining about this type of thing it is because he has let his game go complacent or maybe he never had any game at all. Just because you are married doesn't mean your work is done. The game never ends! While that may seem annoying in the long run you and your marriage are better for it.


P.S. Also take a good look at the advice given in the other posts above. Take note at which SS members are telling you things like "cheat, escorts, marriage is the problem, give up, move on, etc." These are all cop-out responses. These guys are either lazy or have no clue. This forum is becoming overrun with poor advice like this. We are all here to get better with women, not blame them or point the finger at marriage and society. There are a lot of guys here who are truly dedicated to the cause and will do anything to improve and help their fellow members. Listen closely to these guys and discard the rest until they prove otherwise.

Peace

[Aaron B]

step 1 is to inform her that its her wifely duty to satisfy her man sexually and if she is unwilling to perform her duty she is forcing him to seek sex outside the relationship

[slowhand]

I had the same problem once. I got fed up and just climbed on. If she needs me to be a rapist sometimes, I can be a rapist.

[evelsteve]

Some women completely lose their libido after having kids.

It's a known sexual dysfunction in women.

So we're just supposed to sit there, testosterone ready, while waiting for the wife to "come around?" No thanks. LOL

[sodbuster]

You can TRY to "caffinate her hamster" by game,counseling [only works if SHE is willing to let it],cheating,etc. maybe it works,maybe it doesn't. MY ex was sure I was ready, willing and able to cheat[even though I didn't].Cheating... you are still living with her[does she really deserve your company?] Counseling worked for a bit....but the "B1tch on the broom" came back.

In the end, all my patience resulted in an extra 100K in savings[mine] she got to divide. WELL.... the boys were old enough to pick where they wanted to live instead of the court

[J Roc]

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