Ok so i met her cold approach I was on my mountain bike and she was in the park with her dog, I number closed her. She is HB8.

I texted her and we met at the park to go for a walk with our dogs, date was ok I played it cool and she was wearing tight lycra running pants that where see through so i could see her gstring :yes: I thought that showed interest over me or it could mean attention *****. I was overdressed for a walk in the park but I think it showed high value/status. Anywys we both have strong dogs that require too much attention to enjoy a date so I tell her we should go for a drink somewhere another time and i leave without trying to kiss her on the lips.

SO I send her a message to meet for a tea and then go to a bar where my friends rock band is playing that evening, she tells me she had a busy weekend and had plans blablabla that we can meet another day.
So I set up another date but i made the mistake of making it during the week since she works a lot she was tired on the date and i didnt advance on that date but i liked her shes hot and has things in common with me. We just had a drink at a pub.

SO i SMS her on thursday to go meet on the weekend and shes replies to me on saturday saying she is sorry for replying late blabla bla she can't make it her brohter is in town which is true but i find disrespectful.

I dont answer nothing and then one week later i sms her i just say how are you and she says she is sick and she will call me when is better to see me.
I say OK get well bye. I decided to next her.

But i bump into her casually in the street and she says hi and starts talking to me but i tell her i have a wedding that weekend and i am in a rush (I was high as a kite so kept convo short) and i leave her there im like bye see ya

SO today is thursday and I feel i have to take action with her since I think I deserve to fock her at least once lol her ass is amazing... So I wanna know whats your take on this? any advise on how to take it from here? Thanks guys I have read all the posts on the mature forum and I decided to become a part of this awesome community so please enlighten me a bit on how to bed her and if you like more details let me know like i said i dont care about the girl at this point just want to do her but i think she is mindfocking me or playing hard ball because deep down i feel like I have a chance :rockon:

Im thinking of sending her an SMS saying the ball is on your side of the court but I think it would come off as needy.
I have other options rite now but none of them at her level she is my best immediate option.

caporal said:

Im thinking of sending her an SMS saying the ball is on your side of the court but I think it would come off as needy.
I have other options rite now but none of them at her level she is my best immediate option.

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I would explore those other options. She is low-interest.

You text too much. It is too easy for a girl to blow you off over SMS, even if she likes you. I'm not one of these guys who will advocate NO texting, but at this point, you're just noise to her.

squirrels said:

You text too much. It is too easy for a girl to blow you off over SMS, even if she likes you. I'm not one of these guys who will advocate NO texting, but at this point, you're just noise to her.

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Thanks Squirrels for your input, I know I text too much with her, but she is always working different shifts so it's really hard to get a hold off on the phone it is more convenient over SMS. I havent phoned her up once yet, maybe I should call her, what do you think?
BTW (im unemployed) but I have demonstrated high value and social proof to her, like she's seen my $60,000 car, knows that i live in a nice area and saw me being stopped by people who know me on the street and so on... not that it is a big deal, you can get laid being broke but you know chicks like seeing those things like status and all.

Thanks Squirrels for your input. It's true i did text her too much, mostly because she is hard to get a hold off on the phone because is always doing different shifts at work. Should I call her today or tomorrow just to feel her out?

My other options are ****able girls and datable by many but I wouldnt date them I only date fit girls like this one showing Low interest on me lol

Squirrels is right on.

Listen to what he says. He sees more than you do as an external and more experienced observer.

That's why "only immediate options" never turn out well. Too much "linearity" especially in the beginning is UNATTRACTIVE.

Text -- Date -- Text -- She's busy -- Adjourn -- Text Again -- Busy again -- Text ...

etc..

is too predictable. Whatever interest level she had in the beginning has probably faded away by this ..

I am not saying this particular plate could have been handled better if you had had other options, but having other options reduces your anxiety and outcome dependency.

In my experience, I rarely score girls who I strongly desire in the beginning... It kills your play. You become predictable.

Predictability is boring.

So I'd say, NEXT with no contact and stop fantasizing about her "ass" ...

Find someone else,

Boilermaker said:

Squirrels is right on.

Predictability is boring.

So I'd say, NEXT with no contact and stop fantasizing about her "ass" ...

Find someone else,

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LOL LOL ok guys you are right I have to admit it.
I cant't just next her yet, her ass is too good for that LOL I will give her one LAST chance, I will call her up ONCE, and if that don't work for sure Ill NEXT HER ASS, I promise!

UPDATE: I called her up and she didn't answer. Deleted her number but I am fvcking pissed off at all the vitches and specially with this one since i showed high value and i don't see the reason she nexted me I feel in rage but should forget about it, karma should take care of this ho.

It's all part of the game...

Nowadays, I keep reminding myself anything could change in a second. She might give you high IL when you meet her and then suddenly flake on you hard... She might get into a LTR with you and then suddenly cheat on you... It's all part of the game, it doesn't matter what happened between the two of you before, things could change competely in a second.

Keep your guard up...

Die Hard said:

It's all part of the game...

Nowadays, I keep reminding myself anything could change in a second. She might give you high IL when you meet her and then suddenly flake on you hard... She might get into a LTR with you and then suddenly cheat on you... It's all part of the game, it doesn't matter what happened between the two of you before, things could change competely in a second.

Keep your guard up...

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You are clueless, and are in no position to be giving advice.

She probably already had some dude in her life and judging by your interaction with her, it wasn't enough to pull her away from him.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=183493

Women like that need fireworks right away (your first date you needed to either fvck close her or come close to it by making her feel really hot).

A walk in the park with the crazy dogs might not have been the best option.

caporal said:

...I tell her we should go for a drink somewhere another time and i leave without trying to kiss her on the lips.

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And that's where I stopped. Time to go back to the ABCs. Always be closing.

You met her, got her number. Got her number and got a date. Went on the date and.... tried for another date?

DJDamage said:

She probably already had some dude in her life and judging by your interaction with her, it wasn't enough to pull her away from him.

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I agree with this, and what scrouds said.
You had her out, didn't even get a kiss, and in your mind you're planning on fvcking her?
Also, whatever happened to the two strikes rule?

speed dawg said:

You are clueless, and are in no position to be giving advice.

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Yawn...

Point out the error in my advice, or else keep your mouth shut.

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UPDATE: I called her up and she didn't answer. Deleted her number but I am fvcking pissed off at all the vitches and specially with this one since i showed high value and i don't see the reason she nexted me I feel in rage but should forget about it, karma should take care of this ho.

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And you wonder why she is ignoring you after your first date? Listen to yourself. This may hurt but this is not personal, so take it well I hope. You remind me of the kind of guys that end up stalking their ex's and slicing them open with a knife. You are THAT upset over one girl who you barely know? I am sure she picked up on that vibe from you, or at the very least she thought you might be a little strange acting. It's just one girl. Relax. There is no reason to get that pissed off.

squirrels said:

I would explore those other options. She is low-interest.

You text too much. It is too easy for a girl to blow you off over SMS, even if she likes you. I'm not one of these guys who will advocate NO texting, but at this point, you're just noise to her.

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agreed

OK THANKS FOR MOST OF THE REPLIES

IM OVER HER, BUT IT DID HURT MY PRIDE A BIT, I REALLY FANCIED HER...
I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE K-CLOSING ON A FIRST DATE JUST KINDA MAKE HER BEG FOR IT but it didn't work.

TOUGH LUCK FOR ME!! TIME TO KEEP MOVING NO STOPPING HERE!!

zekko said:

I agree with this, and what scrouds said.
You had her out, didn't even get a kiss, and in your mind you're planning on fvcking her?
Also, whatever happened to the two strikes rule?

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Yes I know I wasn't agressive enough on the date. Since I had high value in her eyes I was not following rules specifically, taking it easy, and I might have been too stoned on the date (not that she could notice but it affects your game) So yeah I'll keep looking for girls and try to have more discipline next date dont get high lol

You know weed impairs judgment, so you could have been looking through the eyes of a high stupor rather than a clear conscience. You say she didn't notice, but even if she didn't bring it up, she could have noticed and immediately dropped whatever high value you thought you had to the floor.

Yeaah weed does **** with you on first dates, and can make it akward. So my proved advise is not to do it before any date if possible. I smoke waay too much but since I just started going to the gym everyday I will try to cut down, the thing is if I quit weed, I start smoking cigarettes straight away... and I rather not smoke cigs.