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Women and the word "Creepy"

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I noticed that "Creepy" really means "Physically unattractive to the girl at hand."

A friend of mine was telling me how creepy guys always hit on her at work, so I said, define creepy, she said, ugly.

I was also called a creep by a girl I tried to get online. She wanted to be the singer in my band, so I let her know that I was interested in her, and she lost interest in the band (not that I care anyway, her voice was horrible anyway) and played the ignore then block game online and called me creepy before she blocked me. I'm not bad looking...she just goes for the long hair, Tommy Lee type or goth type, and I'm a clean cut white guy.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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you are confused!

Creepy does not mean ugly at all... but unattractive, ugly BEHAVIOR
for women, creepy means desperate, stalker, with no game who is all over them

someone sho just shows too much interest too quick its creepy
think stalker, think desperate needy, girlish, weird, no social skills too...

trying to ask for several dates while she declines over and over is creepy.
touching a girl who doesnt like you is creepy

see where im going?
ugly has nothing to do with creepy, an Ugly man can be attractive, but a man who is physically attractive who is in love with a girl, who is needy, stalkerish, calls every often, stares at her, and follows her around just to look at her, who is always trying to reach her... IS CREEPY!!!!
 

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Yeah that is the definition, but the dumber of the gender often use it for a lot of non-creepy guys, so you're both kinda right.
 

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I just think its one of those words jawns use to self suplicate their medocre existance, jus a way to brag to others that they are desireable.
 

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You same idiots complaining about "creepy" are the same ones devaluing words like "epic" and turning "fail" back into a noun when it isn't, so put a cork in it.
 

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squirrels said:
Go on YouTube and search for that sexual harassment video that SNL did a while back with Tom Brady.
Lol, yeah I remember that. It pretty much backs up confusedstate's idea that girls really mean "unattractive" when they say creepy.

YouTube may not have it up though, SNL is pretty rigid about removing their skits. Some still slip past, but they're pretty rigid.
 
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pipe007 said:
you are confused!

Creepy does not mean ugly at all... but unattractive, ugly BEHAVIOR
for women, creepy means desperate, stalker, with no game who is all over them

someone sho just shows too much interest too quick its creepy
think stalker, think desperate needy, girlish, weird, no social skills too...

trying to ask for several dates while she declines over and over is creepy.
touching a girl who doesnt like you is creepy

see where im going?
ugly has nothing to do with creepy, an Ugly man can be attractive, but a man who is physically attractive who is in love with a girl, who is needy, stalkerish, calls every often, stares at her, and follows her around just to look at her, who is always trying to reach her... IS CREEPY!!!!
you've been reading waaaaay too many pua books.

creepy=physically unattractive to her.
 

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A girl I know has an afc orbiter that she briefly dated that she had no physical attraction to, and he wouldn't let her break up with him. He tried to manipulate her into thinking that her lack of attraction could change. Then when she finally dumped him, he went crazy and said "Don't **** with me" and threatened to show her parents dirty pics of her...or tell her boss that she slept with one of the employees.

Now she has a new bf and the afc orbiter is upset and trying to c***block.

How would you describe this guy? "Nice guy" that flips out when things don't go his way? Or psycho?
 

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a nice guy with emotions that are controlling his as$, he'll come around hopefully.
 

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Kerpal said:
It doesn't have anything to do with the behavior of the guy in question. That's just the pretext, but whoever uses it is really talking about the attractiveness of the guy, not his behavior. It's a way of calling a guy physically unattractive without having to come right out and say it.

Here's a hypothetical scenario to help clear this up. Say this guy hits on a girl, and the girl rejects him and calls him creepy.

Now say this guy hits on the same girl in exactly the same way. Would she still think he's creepy? Somehow I doubt it.

Possible, bait for Just a Shot Away. But the fact you didn't mention the words ''Looks'' or ''Matter'', we should be safe.
 

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It means the guy isn't physically attractive or famous.
 

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So what's all this "Looks mean nothing" bs around here? Every girl I've got, or even got a date with, she found me physically attractive on some level, most likely a high level, and every girl that's rejected me for the most part wasn't attracted to me or attracted enough to be interested.

I understand that looks only get you in the door and don't guarantee anything (unless you're boy toy material) but why all the "Oh it's game and personality bs?" Yeah I know guys that get women with their personality, but it's also strictly social circle game and the guy impressing the woman right off the bat with social proof.
 

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confusedstate said:
So what's all this "Looks mean nothing" bs around here? Every girl I've got, or even got a date with, she found me physically attractive on some level, most likely a high level, and every girl that's rejected me for the most part wasn't attracted to me or attracted enough to be interested.

I understand that looks only get you in the door and don't guarantee anything (unless you're boy toy material) but why all the "Oh it's game and personality bs?" Yeah I know guys that get women with their personality, but it's also strictly social circle game and the guy impressing the woman right off the bat with social proof.
the 'looks don't matter' fallacy is just a really great way to market and sell pua books. These so-called gurus couldn't give a shit whether you get laid or not, all they want from you is your cash. By saying looks mean nothing they are basically catering their products to a wider audience rather than a slected few....mass marketing 101

reality is, looks do matter but so do other factors(money, fame, social status, game etc) and you also have to realise that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. i know its cliche, but its true nonetheless...people have different preferences. I guess it just depends on the woman you are dealing with really.
 

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confusedstate said:
So what's all this "Looks mean nothing" bs around here? Every girl I've got, or even got a date with, she found me physically attractive on some level, most likely a high level, and every girl that's rejected me for the most part wasn't attracted to me or attracted enough to be interested.

I understand that looks only get you in the door and don't guarantee anything (unless you're boy toy material) but why all the "Oh it's game and personality bs?" Yeah I know guys that get women with their personality, but it's also strictly social circle game and the guy impressing the woman right off the bat with social proof.
Looks definitely matter. You must meet or exceed the girl's minimum looks requirement before she will let you talk to her and/or run any game on her.
 

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I've known a girl for a while now that uses that word allllll the time.

It really means nothing, its kind of like a defense mechanism for her I believe.
She is not attractive AT ALL and just throws the word around all the
time.
 

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Mike32ct said:
Looks definitely matter. You must meet or exceed the girl's minimum looks requirement before she will let you talk to her and/or run any game on her.
Exactly. Indifference ("He isn't ugly, but I'm not feeling something about him") is just as bad as her thinking you're butt-ugly.

The good news like Teacha said is that you don't have to be "hot" per say but you have to be the girl's type in some way.

I found that my game has improved simply by avoiding AW types, L.A. type women that walk around with that "I know I'm hot. Please look at me to validate me even more and then I won't look back" attitude. Usually can be spotted from a mile away...clothes that scream "trying too hard, not casual"...usually a snobby looking face.

I used to want that type of girl, and eventually I figured out why.

1.)Those are the type of girls that were off-limits to 99 percent of men in high school including myself.

2.)Being seen with one of those women instantly raises your social proof and gets the attention of men and women alike.

3.)Emotional validation due to insecurity. "If a hot woman like that gives me the time of day, then I must be worthwhile."

Now I stick to the cute girls that I actually like. Still hard obviously but a lot simpler and usually better personalities too.
 

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I wanna give my 2 cents because I got called creepy a few times last year, when I was pushing my boundaries. Lately I get called sexy, hot, or cute, not creepy; I haven't been called creepy in almost a year. I haven't changed much, visually.

You're creepy if you don't think the woman will enjoy it... Picture a guy fondling a tied up woman's boob, knowing that the woman is feeling revulsion. That's creepy.

A creepy guy would "take advantage" of a passed out girl, getting pleasure without regard to how the woman feels at all. (Not that most guys who get called creepy are actually creeps.)

When you hear "creep", think "pervert". Not the lovable kind who is fun, but the leery kind by whom you don't feel respected. The girls feel like "he really thinks I'm an object."

Imagine Gollum, but instead of the Ring, he wants sex. Then imagine him after he splits off into the nice version of himself... His creepiness is gone, cuz he's no longer plotting on how he can get the Ring from you.

You have to seem like you have other options, or at least like you won't get weird if rejected. A good looking guy can still be a stalker, and an ugly guy can have a pre-selected vibe.

Creepy = how likely the guy is to stalk her, to fall in one-sided love, etc.

So if you don't feel like the girl is attracted to you, you will behave that way...

I know a mother****er who looks like a FAT version of Zach Galificankaikas (sp)... Based on his looks, this guy should NOT get girls.

He's with hotties every time I see him, and I ran into him pulling a hot blonde from a bar one time (they were dancing sexually in the parking lot.) He's got mad game, he's very charming, and you can tell that he is not a social retard [in fact, you can tell he has a ton of friends.] He's not gonna kidnap you and put you in his trunk because you talked to another guy and he got jealous.

"Unpredictable" is good, but "unstable" is bad :)


Of course looks matter a lot, but think about it: Your clothes, your facial expressions, your state of health, your haircut, your grooming... They're all indicators of how socially in-tune you are, and how experienced you are with girls. So if a girl calls you creepy, it doesn't mean that she's insulting your body. It just means she's not impressed with the persona she saw.

Plus, the only times I've been called creepy are because I said or did something that was clearly socially uncalibrated... Acting in ways that I didn't feel entitled for. A guy who was super good looking would have had more reference experiences growing up, and would be more sexually comfortable and congruent. As I've gotten more experienced, I haven't gotten called creepy in almost a year. But I have been called sexy a lot, by strangers, around whom I probably would have behaved creepily a year ago.
 
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I think it's kind of like "*******" in a way.

I have been doing ****y and funny since the womb and I am good at both. When someone describes me it will be one of the two. Except when I try to push it further and I get the ******* tag by females (not dudes by the way).

I think if I was more attractive it would work better but you work with what you got.
 
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