We all know that to be a leader requires straight-up masculine courage to be on the front-lines.

But to be a leader also requires intelligence

The simple calculus of it is that no one will follow you if you lack intelligence and don't know what the hell you are doing.

A couple of quick and dirty examples are in order

I remember taking an HB8 on a date, and at the time I really had a bad sense of direction, so I kept getting lost when driving. She was really starting to get frustrated with me, and finally she just said out of desperation: 'Why do you keep going the wrong way?'

Just this past Monday, one of my guy friends in my group was trying to AMOG everyone, trying to be dictatorial and authoritative. What was rich was that he was spouting off some *instant analysis* on the Bears Packers game, and he had no idea what he was talking about. He said that Julius Pepper was a great tight-end. I corrected him: 'Actually Julius Peppers plays defensive end, he is not even on the offensive side of the ball'. The rest of the guys just basically started to ignore what he was saying for the rest of the night.

Granted those are extreme examples, but the bottom line is, to be the complete man/leader, not only do you have to be ballsy, but you need raw intelligence, raw computing power.

Become knowledgeable, well-read, and quick-thinking. It's something that most guys don't even have. And these days the cold hard truth is that usually girls are smarter than guys now. As we all know, if a girl is smarter than you, she really cannot respect you.

Trader said:

As we all know, if a girl is smarter than you, she really cannot respect you.

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Not necessarily the truth if you are smart too. Let me explain. My ex wife's IQ was a few points higher than mine (hers 130+, mine about 125 and she came from a smart/ rich family. There were certainly areas that I excelled her in. On paper she was smarter than I, but not by much. She respected me as I did her until her drinking got out of hand. Out of all the women I have been with my ex wife was about the only one that I would even dare say was smarter than me.

The ones that seem to show the most disrespect were the ones that knew my intelligence dwarfed theirs!

Trader said:

But to be a leader also requires intelligence

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In theory, yes, but does it always work out that way? Hell no!!! I have worked with some people that were officers, bosses, managers and whatever! Some were real fvcking moronic idiots! Sometimes to be a leader ONLY requires mindless drones to follow. See where I am going?

samspade said:

Agree with you on this - except I'm not so sure what you mean about girls being smarter than guys now. Do you mean they are generally better educated?

If there is one thing I know, it's that education is not intelligence. Both are valuable, but one does not imply the other.

Some people are extremely well-read but couldn't find their way out of a paper bag.

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I should have been more clear in my word-usage.

Yes, education does not equal intelligence. And being well-read does not necessarily mean you are intelligent.

To further complicate the issue, there are different types of intelligence. for example, sense of direction, an eye for color.

For the sake of this discussion, I believe the most important type of intelligence is rationality and logic .

You know exactly what I am talking about. Some people can take any issue and analyze it logically and rationally, while other people do not have that well-developed.

One quick and dirty example. In a Bible Study, I was just stating the natural fact that if you have lots of money, that often can cause you to be prideful, this is basic human nature 101.

This one bf kept trying to disagree with me by saying: 'That's not true, I know lots of people who are prideful for other reasons besides money.'

And I told him: 'What you just said has absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying.'

The gf started to get frustrated with the bf saying: 'No, listen to what he is saying, he is saying something different.'

On a deeper level, the reason why girls value rationality and logic in guys so much is because girls tend to run on pure emotions, and she appreciates it when a guy can analyze the situation clearly for her.

The recurring theme is the same, a girl wants in a guy, what she *lacks.* Girls tend to lack courage, thus a high premium is placed on a guy with *balls.* Girls tend to lack objectivity and analysis divorced from their emotions, thus they value a guy who can analyze and spout off rational thought.

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But to be a leader also requires intelligence

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SoldMySoul said:

In theory, yes, but does it always work out that way? Hell no!!! I have worked with some people that were officers, bosses, managers and whatever! Some were real fvcking moronic idiots! Sometimes to be a leader ONLY requires mindless drones to follow. See where I am going?

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Let's be careful here. Just because your boss is of higher position than you in the company, is he *automatically* a leader? Of course not, and it is patently obvious because you clearly do not respect him. The only reason he has power over you is because you cannot quit, since you need that paycheck. So your situation is rather *artificial* in that realistically, you have no option to quit the firm.

But let's take your example and transfer this to natural relationships. If a bf has balls, but is a complete idiot, eventually he keeps getting stuck into stupid situations and the girl will leave him for a better guy. She is not *trapped* like you were (since you needed the paycheck).

If your *friend* who keeps trying to impose his will on the group, but he is a complete idiot, sooner or later, you would just stop hanging out with him. I know I would.


Now your sidepoint is that, some people can be complete idiots and choose to let another idiot *lead* them. I grant you that point. But *given a choice* even an idiot would rather let a smarter person lead them than another fellow idiot. It kind of becomes obvious when the idiot leader keeps making bonehead decisions and getting the group into trouble.

Girls don't value rationality, intelligence and logic.

They understand one thing and one thing only... How you make them feel.

Most of the time rationality, intelligence and logic makes them feel bad and makes you seem "creepy" to them. That's why it's up to us to use those qualities deliberately and a means to incite the correct feelings in them.

They only start valuing those qualites once a LTR is established, in my experience. And you are correct about relative intelligence... A man must be more intelligent for a woman for it to work. Once her little thrill wears off and a LTR starts taking shape, she will be horrified when she discovers that her mate is dumber than she is. She will truly be utterly unable to respect him.

Atom Smasher said:

Girls don't value rationality, intelligence and logic.

They understand one thing and one thing only... How you make them feel.

Most of the time rationality, intelligence and logic makes them feel bad and makes you seem "creepy" to them. That's why it's up to us to use those qualities deliberately and a means to incite the correct feelings in them.

They only start valuing those qualites once a LTR is established, in my experience. And you are correct about relative intelligence... A man must be more intelligent for a woman for it to work. Once her little thrill wears off and a LTR starts taking shape, she will be horrified when she discovers that her mate is dumber than she is. She will truly be utterly unable to respect him.

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This ^^.

Rational thought, intelligence and logic are qualities that women value inside an LTR.
In the early stages of meeting up and dating, women value their beloved "chemistry" above all else. As Atom said it is all about "feelings". That is why PUA tactics work in an instant .

Your Mensa membership, at that time, is likely to be a tedious boring turnoff.