Ben Roethlisberger STILL being accused of rape

Trader · Apr 15, 2010

I'm sure you all know the story now

The DA has dropped the charges saying there is 'insufficient evidence' to move forward with a trial. The DA claims that the accuser has changed her story multiple times.

What's interesting is that today on espn.com - the accuser's friends are all corroborating her story. But if the accuser's friends are all telling the truth, why did the DA drop the charges? I doubt the reliability of the friends' claims.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5094224

The charges have been dropped for a CRIMINAL suit. The accuser could still file a civil suit. Paradoxically, the accuser is no longer pursuing any charges in a civil suit, I think she got paid off by Roethlisberger so she won't futher blacken his reputation.

The funny thing is that every time a girl cries rape, the general public and the maginas *automatically* take the girl's side. Just take a look at the comments on the espn page. There are many motivations for a girl to lie about rape.

OFWHAP · Apr 15, 2010

Multiple women have accused Roethlisberger of sexual assault. This guy practices really poor judgment. Have you seen pictures of this guy on the internet? He gets black-out drunk pretty often and you see pictures of him hanging on all these girls while his eyes are rolling in the back of his head. He also rides motorcycles in violation of his contract.

Trader · Apr 15, 2010

OFWHAP said:
Multiple women have accused Roethlisberger of sexual assault. This guy practices really poor judgment. Have you seen pictures of this guy on the internet? He gets black-out drunk pretty often and you see pictures of him hanging on all these girls while his eyes are rolling in the back of his head. He also rides motorcycles in violation of his contract.

I agree that he exercised poor judgment. He is the face of the Steelers franchise and should take preventive measures.

However, that is a completely separate issue to what I am talking about.

Did he actually rape her? Probably not. They were both drunk. The girl got hammered and when you do that at some random bar, hey anything goes.

Besides, the fact that Roethlisberger is famous and wealthy, has to be a factor affecting the believability of the girl's claims.

OFWHAP · Apr 15, 2010

Trader said:
I agree that he exercised poor judgment. He is the face of the Steelers franchise and should take preventive measures.

However, that is a completely separate issue to what I am talking about.

Did he actually rape her? Probably not. They were both drunk. The girl got hammered and when you do that at some random bar, hey anything goes.

Besides, the fact that Roethlisberger is famous and wealthy, has to be a factor affecting the believability of the girl's claims.

Did his penis actually penetrate her vagina? I have no idea. It can't be proven at this point. If you want to learn more, read the police report on thesmokinggun.com. It's not as though she came out a week later and said this happened. She went straight to the cops as soon as she got out of the bathroom. Roethlisberger did admit to a friend that he and the girl had "fooled around." Either way he took advantage of highly-intoxicated girl.

Trader · Apr 15, 2010

OFWHAP said:
Did his penis actually penetrate her vagina? I have no idea. It can't be proven at this point. If you want to learn more, read the police report on thesmokinggun.com. It's not as though she came out a week later and said this happened. She went straight to the cops as soon as she got out of the bathroom. Roethlisberger did admit to a friend that he and the girl had "fooled around." Either way he took advantage of highly-intoxicated girl.

Casinos are known to give free drinks to high-rollers. When that high roller gambles away his money while intoxicated, do you say the casino "took advantage* of the gambler? Of course not, the gambler put himself in that situation.

Same thing with this intoxicated girl.

And also the testimony of the alleged victim had changed several times when questioned, that was the main reason why the DA decided not to follow through with the charges.

OFWHAP · Apr 15, 2010

So you're saying you can't take advantage of a drunk girl? Do you and your friends go for the girls that can barely stand up and rationalize it by saying it's her problem she got so drunk? Also a casino can't make you gamble. If what this girl says is true, she was telling him, "No" and he had his way with her anyway. Her friends say that they were prevented from retrieving their friend by Roethlisberger's body guards. How about the security tapes that were mysteriously erased? In the end, he took advantage of a drunk girl who actually wanted the charges dropped anyway. Whether there was penetration or not, he even told one of his friends that they did something in the bathroom.

Trader · Apr 16, 2010

OFWHAP said:
So you're saying you can't take advantage of a drunk girl? Do you and your friends go for the girls that can barely stand up and rationalize it by saying it's her problem she got so drunk?

I don't go for drunk girls personally - I don't even drink.

My point is, it's not her problem, it's not his problem. It's no one's problem. She went to the party, got hammered in a public area. Once she does that, all bets are off, practically speaking, from a real world point of view. You know it, I know it.

OFWHAP said:
Also a casino can't make you gamble. If what this girl says is true, she was telling him, "No" and he had his way with her anyway. Her friends say that they were prevented from retrieving their friend by Roethlisberger's body guards. How about the security tapes that were mysteriously erased? In the end, he took advantage of a drunk girl who actually wanted the charges dropped anyway. Whether there was penetration or not, he even told one of his friends that they did something in the bathroom.

The problem with your argument is that you assumed he was completely sober. He was drunk too. She was not of the right mind, and neither was he. You can say what he did was *morally* reprehensible, and that he should be held accountable even though he was drunk. Fine.

But there's no way he's going to get charged for a LEGAL crime such as rape given the circumstances that everyone was drunk. The accuser couldn't even keep her story straight she was so blitzed, so they had to drop charges.

Rescue Mission · Apr 16, 2010

When Trader makes a thread defending a man, you KNOW this is some serious business!

Ben Rothlisberger.....he is what, 25 years old?

He is a multi millionaire, and he can have any hot piece of azz that he wants, how can ANYONE who is sane think that he would rape or sexually assault someone? The second a girl says NO to him, he has 5 other girls just as hot saying YES - rape/sexual assault does not apply to the rich and famous, PERIOD.......anyone who has you believe otherwise is completely delusional

So what if 2 bytches accused him of something and then later dropped the charges?? THE BYTCH WANTED MONEY, AND SHE BLACKMAILED THE FAMOUS AFC PVSSY NAMED BEN OUT OF HIS MONEY - there was no rape or crime committed!!

The only CRIME here is that these kinds of women CONTINUE to get away with their false rape charges, and until some of these pvssified media outlets call them out on their shyt, they will CONTINUE to do more of the same!

There is NEVER rape when a celebrity has sex with a random chick........why would the chick even be there without fully knowing that she's about to be fvcked by a celebrity??? These girls are NOT innocent victims, they are instead exactly the kind of swine that we are always warned about.......Big Ben Rothlisberger has just been unlucky to end up fvcking a couple of mentally messed up women.

The coverage on it is just sickening - I am from New England, and I might just become a Steelers fan just to support Big Ben on his don juan player ways!!

Reyaj · Apr 16, 2010

Rescue Mission said:
When Trader makes a thread defending a man, you KNOW this is some serious business!

Ben Rothlisberger.....he is what, 25 years old?

He is a multi millionaire, and he can have any hot piece of azz that he wants, how can ANYONE who is sane think that he would rape or sexually assault someone? The second a girl says NO to him, he has 5 other girls just as hot saying YES - rape/sexual assault does not apply to the rich and famous, PERIOD.......anyone who has you believe otherwise is completely delusional

So what if 2 bytches accused him of something and then later dropped the charges?? THE BYTCH WANTED MONEY, AND SHE BLACKMAILED THE FAMOUS AFC PVSSY NAMED BEN OUT OF HIS MONEY - there was no rape or crime committed!!

The only CRIME here is that these kinds of women CONTINUE to get away with their false rape charges, and until some of these pvssified media outlets call them out on their shyt, they will CONTINUE to do more of the same!

There is NEVER rape when a celebrity has sex with a random chick........why would the chick even be there without fully knowing that she's about to be fvcked by a celebrity??? These girls are NOT innocent victims, they are instead exactly the kind of swine that we are always warned about.......Big Ben Rothlisberger has just been unlucky to end up fvcking a couple of mentally messed up women.

The coverage on it is just sickening - I am from New England, and I might just become a Steelers fan just to support Big Ben on his don juan player ways!!

eh... I dont know. A lot of famous people seem to be on powertrips.... if a girl tells them no they probably can't believe it.... but anyway aside from that, yes Ben Roethlisberger is famous and rich but..

he is 1 ugly mofo lol

OFWHAP · Apr 16, 2010

Ben Roethlisberger is 28. Have you seen pictures of this guy out at the bar? His body guards were blocking entry to the bathroom. The DA confirmed that this girl had vaginal lacerations and that there was DNA present, but not enough to be conclusive. Whether he truly raped her or not, he is a giant sleaze who has trouble getting any kind of sympathy from me. If you've already been accused of sexual assault, don't get trashed with a bunch of college girls who aren't even 21 and put yourself in the position to even be accused of rape.

Zarky · Apr 16, 2010

I don't understand how men would take a side against this guy. It could happen to any man. It's happened to me, a jilted ex-girlfriend told the cops I did some sh!tty things to her but fortunately her story was all over the place and they didn't believe her. I still had to hire a lawyer and it cost me $$$. If you don't think it could happen to you then wait around a while.

These accusations happen all the time to guys. If the DA doesn't press charges it's because he thinks the woman is full of sh!t. DAs will press charges on sex crimes if there's even the slightest hint that the guy did it. They'll over charge the guy and then plea down to lesser charges. Even if the guy is totally innocent he'll accept the plea so he doesn't face the possibility of 10-20 years in jail. Why do DAs do this? Because it wins political points for them.

We have to side with the dude for our own protection, no matter what we think of him as a person.

MatureDJ · Apr 17, 2010

What I don't understand is why he doesn't just hire some high priced 'ho. He makes about a net $5M/year. If he merely spent 2% of that on azz, that would be $100K. He could hire a steady stream of azz for that price, even legal ones in Nevada.

OFWHAP · Apr 17, 2010

Ben Roethlisberger is really not worth defending. The DA is pretty much convinced he did it. The reason charges were never pressed was A) The girl and her family wanted charges dropped a while ago and B) they were unable to find evidence BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Basically he got off due to the fact that this girl was too drunk to tell her story coherently. She had vaginal injuries according to the rape kit. Ben Roethlisberger is commonly known as a scumbag who can't stay away from underage sorority girls. Once again, he's not a pity case. He's a premature midlife crisis.

OFWHAP · Apr 17, 2010

On top of that the original cop in the case has resigned. He told the girl not to bother pressing charges because Roethlisberger is rich and famous. He also made disparaging comments about her to other cops. On top of that, he was involved in some photographs with Roethlisberger earlier. Hmmm. What about the bouncers blocking the bathroom door? What about the fact that Ben Roethlisberger admitted to a friend that they at least "fooled around?" Bottom line he took advantage of a girl who was way too drunk. Once again, I'm not going to waste my breath defending this guy.

Rescue Mission · Apr 17, 2010

OFWHAP said:
Ben Roethlisberger is really not worth defending. The DA is pretty much convinced he did it. The reason charges were never pressed was A) The girl and her family wanted charges dropped a while ago and B) they were unable to find evidence BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT. Basically he got off due to the fact that this girl was too drunk to tell her story coherently. She had vaginal injuries according to the rape kit. Ben Roethlisberger is commonly known as a scumbag who can't stay away from underage sorority girls. Once again, he's not a pity case. He's a premature midlife crisis.

MORON!

1) There has never been evidence of Big Ben fvckign any woman under the age of 18, so don't come at us and say "he can't stay away from underage sorority girls" - that's an oxymoron anyway, because all sorority girls are in college and OF age.

2) A girl being "too drunk" to tell her story? I GUARANTEE YOU that in her drunken stupor, she wanted to fvck Big Ben, there is no doubt about it that this is how a drunk college girl operates.

3) You are a feminized pvssy, I noticed that you have barely posted since joining this site years ago, maybe you should just go back to that

Rescue Mission · Apr 17, 2010

OFWHAP said:
On top of that the original cop in the case has resigned. He told the girl not to bother pressing charges because Roethlisberger is rich and famous. He also made disparaging comments about her to other cops. On top of that, he was involved in some photographs with Roethlisberger earlier. Hmmm. What about the bouncers blocking the bathroom door? What about the fact that Ben Roethlisberger admitted to a friend that they at least "fooled around?" Bottom line he took advantage of a girl who was way too drunk. Once again, I'm not going to waste my breath defending this guy.

Once again, you are a MORON!

1) Making disparaging comments about anyone, anytime, is LEGAL - see 1st amendment......or are we making special modifications to the amendment that men are not allowed to have free speech when talking about poor little princesses???

2) What is wrong with someone, ANYONE, being in photographs with someone famous? Damn, if I ever see big ben, I would also want a photo taken with him - this is basic sports athlete stuff, anyone who ever meets and talks to a famous sports star, will obviously love it to have photos taken with them - the more the better.

3) Bouncers blocking door - hmmm maybe it has to do with the fact that a celebrity is getting it on with a hot college chick, and he payed off the bouncer to have some privacy - that's of course illegal in your feminized little head, right?

4) Ben admitted to at least fooling around.....fooling around is mutual, it's not sexual assault, you pvssy

5) Girl was way too drunk?? A WAY TOO DRUNK GIRL WOULD BE PUKING HER GUTS OUT AND NOT BE ABLE TO STAND!! A girl who has drank a good amount and is horny and wants to get fvcked is not being taken advantage of, nobody made her drink, it was her decision.

Get off this forum, you don't belong here and you only poison the minds of the up and coming don juans who read this forum, you poison their minds with pvssified thinking and nice-guy "don't take advantage of women" CHUMP TALK

owned

hansol · Apr 18, 2010

Why the personal attacks, Rescue? Offer a legitimate rebuttal, fine, but no need to start personally attacking a guy because you disagree.

1) Disparaging remarks can lead to a legal argument regarding the basis of "intent". That's why you hear the cliched line from the Miranda rights "...anything you say can and will be used against you...."

2) I don't want a picture taken with an athlete. I'm sure they have better things to do with their time, as do I.

3) Again, the "intent" argument. A good lawyer would have a field day with that.

4) One party says they "fooled around", ergo "mutual" by your definition. Chick says she was raped. Ergo "not mutual".

5) Everyone knows not to chase badly drunken women. A glass of wine, fine. A broad loaded off her ass, yeah, not a good idea. You're right though, it is her decision as to whether or not she wants to shag. Where the trouble starts is when she DOESN'T want to.

I'm not saying what's right or what's wrong, as I don't know all the angles here. I do know that the evidence being presented so far doesn't lend itself well to Ben being thought of as an angel. But reasonable doubt being what it is and all, it's just speculation for now.

ThunderMaverick · Apr 18, 2010

The guy and the girl, no matter what happened put themselves in a stupid situation.

OFWHAP · Apr 18, 2010

Rescue Mission is easily the worst poster on this entire site. All he ever does is call other posters "pvssys" when they say something he doesn't agree with. When I mean underage, I mean under the legal drinking age of 21. It sounds like you want Big Ben, as you so affectionately call him, to **** your little virgin ass. You are too dense to even attempt to debate. And what's mutual about groping a girl who's too drunk to answer a few questions from the police? She was barely conscious and he was doing lord knows what with her. How about this? Maybe you'll get a little too drunk one night, Big Ben will be at a bar and he'll invite you to the VIP section. You get a little too tipsy. You attempt to exit the bar but end up in the bathroom. All the sudden Big Ben walks in with his **** out. You say, "No this isn't OK." He responds, "It's OK." He proceeds to have sex with you. Your friends are trying to get into the bathroom because they know some sketchy stuff is happening. However Big Ben's body guards are blocking the bathroom door. You limp out of the bathroom after riding Big Ben around the block a few times. You decide you were violated. No wait, never mind. He's a famous athlete. You had a few drinks in you. Why WOULDN'T you want to have sex with him?

OFWHAP · Apr 18, 2010

And by your definition, are pedophiles also Don Juans? They live life the way they want to. They pull what they want? They take "advantage," as you say a Don Juan does.

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