“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Need some advice.......Should I let this go?

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Been seeing this girl for like three weeks. I mentioned in another thread how much we saw each other for like a week straight. Two weeks ago she told me that she wanted space and to slow things down. I was very turned off by that. On Saturday, she tells me how She wants to "come to me" instead of me pushing it. All I did was kiss her. We had been making out a lot. She stopped that. We used to hang out, she stopped that as well. She went from texting me every morning, every day to now barely once a day. She kept asking me questions about long term relationships, what I'm looking for, etc. I answered them honestly, I just said at my age, if the right girl came along, I would definately consider a long term relationship.

So she is asking me to slow things down. I asked her if she wants me to stop seeing her, she said no I just want you to let me come to you. I guess I saw her too much? Or I acted too interested? Too available? Or affectionate? I am a very affectionate person. So I guess she thought I saw her as a girlfriend already? She mentioned that she didn't want to kiss because we are in a grey area. We are not in a relationship and everything. She wants time. My question is; How the hell am I suppose to be close to someone when I don't see them? She used to want to meet up all the time, but she stopped all of that. Should I tell her how I feel? Or should I just not say anthing and ignore her? I am lost. I also think that she may have feelings for someone else, she had mentioned him in passing when we first started hanging out. How do I get the attraction back from this? How do I get the control back. So far, I have been not calling, not texting, or making plans with her. I just take her calls and texts sometimes. Is it gone? Or is it possible to get attraction back? She keeps saying weird stuff like she is looking for long term, doesn't want to get played, doesn't want to get hurt and wants to take her time.
 
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She has made me lose all interest, enthusiasim. I was looking forward to getting to know her better but it was a buzz kill. I was turned off. I'm wondering if I should say this to her. Or just let it die naturally. I have no idea what happened.
 

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Split your first post into paragraphs and some of us will read it.
 

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That girl doesn't really like you enough to be a relationship. She finds you hot enough to fool around with, but now she's looking for an excuse to dump you.

Experience will teach you to pre-emptively dump this kind of girls.
 

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Falcon25 said:
Been seeing this girl for like three weeks. I mentioned in another thread how much we saw each other for like a week straight.
Yeah,I remember you saying something about seeing each other 6 days a week,which is waaay too much.

You may say,"Ok,you're right. Maybe it was too much,but she wanted it. It was her idea to see each other so much".


And I'll say the same thing I said in your other thread...


STOP FOLLOWING HER.


I don't know if you've heard of this before or not,but it's a true saying...


"Sometimes you have to treat women like children".



That's true. And how do you treat children? You LEAD.



You give them limits and boundries. Or to just put it plainly,you tell them NO from time to time.




You know why you do this? Because kids don't know any better. When you tell a child NO,or give them boundries,it's for their benefit.


A child is a child,so you putting restrictions on them may seem like you're trying to keep them from having fun or whatever,but YOU KNOW it's because you're looking out for them.




That's how it is with a woman. If you turn her down sometimes instead of seeing her everyday simply because SHE WANTS IT,you know you're doing it for her best interest and for the good of the relationship.




The way things are now are the result of you doing things her way.



You followed her,she's following her feelings,(WHICH ARE HOGWILD AND UNRESTRAINED).



Unless you stop putting your dating/social life in the hands of HER FEELINGS,you'll continue to be frustrated.



As a result of you following her,look at yourself.


You're up,you're down,left and right,you want to see her,but she wants to "take it slow",then when you consider moving on,then she bombards you with texts and phonecalls.



Emotionally this girl is confused. And she's infected YOU with that confusion.



And you know what? This is ALL THE RESULT of YOU not being a MAN and leading.



Falcon25 said:
Two weeks ago she told me that she wanted space and to slow things down.
As previously stated,this was because you didn't cut off her "buffet style" appetite for your attention.


Instead of seeing her a day or two,then cutting her off,you just kept going to see her whenever she wanted.



You basically just let her eat and eat and eat until she got sick (of you).



Falcon25 said:
On Saturday, she tells me how She wants to "come to me" instead of me pushing it.
Even though it is your job to lead,she has a legit concern here. And again,this happened because of you two seeing each other too much.



You know what the funny part about this is? You two seeing each other for 6 days straight was her idea (if I'm not mistaken),and now SHE'S accusing YOU of "pushing it".


It's because you're not leading. You're letting her emotions control THE RELATIONSHIP,but her emotions KEEP CHANGING.


Falcon25 said:
All I did was kiss her. We had been making out a lot. She stopped that. We used to hang out, she stopped that as well. She went from texting me every morning, every day to now barely once a day. She kept asking me questions about long term relationships, what I'm looking for, etc.

Take a look at what I underlined here in this part of you post.


You said.....


She stopped this
She stopped that
She went from texting me this
She kept asking me that



She,she she. And what about YOU? And what did YOU do?


Did you just sit back and watch her run back and forth,here and there, around and around in emotional zig-zags?



So what ARE you doing? Are you just sitting on your hands waiting on her to give you the green light?


You need to tell her to SHUT UP and leave you ALONE.


STOP waiting for HER to decide if YOU can have a girlfriend or not.


If you want a woman in your life,then go get one. STOP letting her indecisiveness cause YOU to be alone.


A relationship is TWO yeses. It takes TWO.


Not a yes and a no.
Not a yes and a "I need time".
Not a yes and "I don't know".


It's TWO yeses.



So if she's not a "yes",then tell her to stop wasting YOUR TIME,or better yet,YOU STOP wasting your own time.


Just how long has this nonsense been going on anyway? And how much longer do YOU plan to put up with this?



You're REALLY going to be in for a shock if she keeps you entangled in this foolishness for another month or two,decide she's had enough,then a week after she moves on from this madness,you find out she's been in a COMMITED RELATIONSHIP with some other dude for the past 3 weeks.



And BELIEVE ME,this kind of thing does happen.

Falcon25 said:
So she is asking me to slow things down. I asked her if she wants me to stop seeing her, she said no I just want you to let me come to you. I guess I saw her too much? Or I acted too interested? Too available? Or affectionate? I am a very affectionate person. So I guess she thought I saw her as a girlfriend already? She mentioned that she didn't want to kiss because we are in a grey area.

She didn't want to kiss you because you two are in a grey area?

What does that mean? And who decided you were in this "grey" area?


Dude,if you don't stop playing game and stand up for yourself,this girl is going to have you going nuts.


A "grey" area? What is that?



Falcon25 said:
She wants time. My question is; How the hell am I suppose to be close to someone when I don't see them?
So she wants time. Just how much time does she want? What does she expect YOU to do during this "time",and once this "time" has expired,then what happens?


Falcon25 said:
Should I tell her how I feel?
No,of course not. You should do what she did.


She told you what she wanted. You need to TELL HER what YOU want.

Stop sitting there listening to her talk about what she wants,and TELL HER what you want.



If she's cool with what you say,then good. If not,then you say,"Adios".



Falcon25 said:
How do I get the attraction back from this? How do I get the control back. So far, I have been not calling, not texting, or making plans with her.
Well,the not texting her/not calling her/not making plans with her DOES NOT create attraction. It may make her miss the attention,but that's it.


As far as attraction goes,it's just you doing some of the things I mentioned earlier.


There's ONE element you seem to be missing,and without it EVERYTHING ELSE you do will fail,and that's this...




The willingness to walk away.





If you're NOT WILLING to walk away from this girl,then nothing else you do will matter.




If you're willing to stay with her no matter what she says,what she does,how she acts or behaves,no matter how looney or crazy her behavior is,then it's ALREADY over with.



You want attraction? Then live your life. YOU live it. Stop letting her feelings and emotions control YOUR behavior.



Next time she starts giving you a laundry list of her emotionally driven wants concerning you,then you go,"Are you finished? You've said what you want,now I'm going to tell you what I WANT".



Then you tell her. If she tells you no to your wants,then you tell her NO to hers. At that point,you two will no longer have any reason to continue being around each other.



Tell her it was cool meeting her and knowing her,but there's no sense in you two wasting each other's time when you each have different wants and desires.


SAY THAT to her. She'll probably start crying,but that's her problem.


Sometimes you have to do this. If you don't,she'll keep you stuck ALONE by her indecisiveness.
 

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Igetit good post.

OP, your acting like a clingy needy wuss.

You should be making the woman chase.

You hardly know here and your latching onto her like a small boy to his mummy.

Give her a break, go out with the lads. You get far too stuck in the drama of female, like a hurt little boy asking why, why why! Pleading, pandering, begging for attention. No wonder she is turned off, if you would of made out to be a guy with options and a life outside of her, with her infringing on it, and you being a little put out by her need to see you, because of your other commitments, it would have never got to this stage.

Instead you latched on like a limpet.

Also never listen to a womans words, ever, just dont do it. Your taking her words and seeing them as truth, and it's messing with your mind - She is acting different to her words, your problem is you've taken her as she said - Judge by actions and not words and her actions are telling you in she wants to do some chasing, she wants a man she has to work for - there is value in something we cant obtain, you on the other hand are too free, to available and hurt if she doesnt reciprocate.

And whats this garbage about being an effectionate guy? Thats effiminate Bull - It's more or less in my mind an excuse for your needy actions.
 

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Thanks guys, I appreciate the time you put in Igetit. That was an awesome post. Next time, if there is one, I am going to do exactly what you said. This is ridiculous.
 

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Dear Falcon,
Or is it Tom Tit?.....You have just given this stupid woman too much power...six days a week?crazy...pull back not a little but a lot,you will find this will be Elastico Bandico,she will come to you...If she doesn't,Next!
 

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Strange how many women SAY they want commitment and stability, when in fact they want just the OPPOSITE.

What she wants is DRAMA. Instability. Excitement! She wants you to be always just out-of-reach.

One of my favorite sayings is, "The strongest love is a forbidden one". The idea being that a love between two people who are EXPECTED to fall in love is mundane...you can't even tell how much of it is "love" and how much of it is just "going with the flow". But a FORBIDDEN love...another man's wife, your boss's daughter, something like that...the tension is EXPLOSIVE. The drama generated by secrecy, by acting "on the down-low", is something that many women CRAVE.

Watch some teen drama drivel sometime. Look at how the girl always has a crush on a guy who doesn't even notice she exists. Or she's fascinated by the guy who breaks all the rules, who her parents don't want her having anything to do with.

It's in the same vein as the reasons guys covet the "9s and 10s"...because of the whole "league" concept, many guys feel like they don't DESERVE to be with hot women, which is why it's so JUICY for them when they DO hook up with them.

With many women, though, they are so desensitized to romance that ONLY a "romantic adventure" or "forbidden love" will satisfy them.

What she's telling you is that your relationship is going TOO well. There's none of that "fairy-tale adventure" aspect to it. It all SEEMS so right, but it FEELS so wrong.

In the meantime, she's screwing around with some other dude behind your back. She's telling him that she's, "kinda seeing someone"...he doesn't care. She loves it. She loves the conflict, the "forbidden fruit" aspect of it. The way he touches her in the backseat of her car when you're at home wondering what she's doing tonight. When you f**k her, she's thinking of him.

Here's the funny thing...you're a CENTRAL part of this equation. If you were to suddenly disappear out of her life, HE is no longer "forbidden". The adventure is gone...he's just another dude she's sexing.

Can he keep her? Maybe...but it becomes exponentially harder. He has to still provide adventure in some way...maybe with emotional distance, maybe with exciting diversions...who knows. Likely he WON'T be able to do that, unless he knows this...she's a MESS.

By that, I mean she's an immature little GIRL (Igetit nailed it) who can't create adventure for herself in her life and keeps bouncing from man to man to try to get it.

You have to treat her as such.

She may be a BLAST to hang out with in a friend/friend-with-benefits/f**kbuddy capacity, but you're wasting your time trying to do the "LTR" thing with her at this point.
 

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I don't think we have to worry about it anymore guys, haven't heard from her since Monday. This is a girl that was texting and calling me non stop. I am not contacting. I have no idea what to do other than disappear.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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Falcon25 said:
I don't think we have to worry about it anymore guys, haven't heard from her since Monday. This is a girl that was texting and calling me non stop. I am not contacting. I have no idea what to do other than disappear.
Squirrels post was the money post.

IN it he described some of the subterranean motivators which drive most women in relationships - drama, anxiety, insecurity, turmoil, gut churning confusion, agonizing and gossiping to their girlfriends... "Does he - does he not...is he - is he not ."
Poring over every syllable from his last utterance, suspiciously deciphering his motives and forensically investigating each and every one of his latest movements. All women do this readily, eagerly and compulsively, and further(disturbingly ), confuse this process with "true love" ...lets not go all "nice and dependable " on them and deprive them of one of their life's greatest pleasures.
 

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I'm going to try this spinning plates thing, I'm taking a different girl out to lunch tomorrow. I heard from this one today, she texted me and said she was sorry and had been very busy, I returned the text two hours later and said no worries, I've been super busy as well. Then I let the texts go dead. I'm tired of these games. Hope the girl tomorrow can turn out to be a cool chick.
 

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I'm going to take it VERY SLOW with the next girl and the girl after that. I'm going to be a fuvking turtle. I'm not repeating this fuvking mistake again. I am affectionate, I get burned. I say yes to hanging out, I get burned. I try to be kind not nice, I get burned. I try to show and be a gentleman, I get burned. So from now on, I'm going to use the same excuse when they ask me "what do you want in a relationship". I'm going to say "I don't want to get hurt, so my walls are high, but I enjoy hanging around you". These fuvking American women are something.
 

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Dear Jophil,
"Poring over every syllable from his last utterance, suspiciously deciphering his motives and forensically investigating each and every one of his latest movements. All women do this readily, eagerly and compulsively, and further(disturbingly), confuse this process with "true love" ...lets not go all "nice and dependable " on them and deprive them of one of their life's greatest pleasures." Forget about the intrinsic truths in your words,the way you put them together is sheer bluddy Poetry....Why not think out say a dozen chapter headings for a book,maybe call it Dating for Dummies,make a separate file for each one.Now start assembling advance organisers,interesting blogs,magazine and Newspaper items observations of your own,file each one under one of your chapter headings,after about a year you will have so much.....Now you can look at each file,cut and paste the most relevent and interesting parts in each,collect together those with a similar theme,now cobble together adding real life examples (This site has thousands).....Go over and polish with your own words and you may well have a masterpiece.
 

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Falcon25 said:
I'm going to take it VERY SLOW with the next girl and the girl after that. I'm going to be a fuvking turtle. I'm not repeating this fuvking mistake again. I am affectionate, I get burned. I say yes to hanging out, I get burned. I try to be kind not nice, I get burned. I try to show and be a gentleman, I get burned. So from now on, I'm going to use the same excuse when they ask me "what do you want in a relationship". I'm going to say "I don't want to get hurt, so my walls are high, but I enjoy hanging around you". These fuvking American women are something.
Ah, there's not really a way to escape being burned, Falcon -- and you don't really WANT to have walls, right? However: if you can put things in perspective, have a well-balanced life, friends who support you, activities and accomplishments you take pride in, you're going to recover a lot faster. Not to mention, finding a great girl to replace a bad one (though you can't always count on it).

Your love life is a part of your life, not the whole of it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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