Ok guys, I need some help with this and I'll keep it short.

So I have been on a few dates with this girl, she digs me and we were supposed to meet today. We agree on around 5 pm when I talked to her on the phone yesterday. I get a text message at noon asking to meet her earlier, at 2. I told her I can't because I'm not even at home and that later would be better. When I tried to arrange it for this afternoon she told me that she's tired and we should do it some other time. What the fvck does this mean, and what should I do/have done?

Cool it off for a day or so. Then call her in a couple of days and arrange something at a time when you can both make it. If she fails to show up for that, she's not interested.

I tried calling and I got a text in return, so I texted back. I just don't get why she got like that just because she didn't have her way. After she told me she was tired I told her something along the lines of "well you should have a nap then" and left it at that. More input please?

daytona said:

Ok guys, I need some help with this and I'll keep it short.

So I have been on a few dates with this girl, she digs me and we were supposed to meet today. We agree on around 5 pm when I talked to her on the phone yesterday. I get a text message at noon asking to meet her earlier, at 2. I told her I can't because I'm not even at home and that later would be better. When I tried to arrange it for this afternoon she told me that she's tired and we should do it some other time. What the fvck does this mean, and what should I do/have done?

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you should say "Ok, another day is fine" then hang up and don't text or call her again..... until she calls or makes the effort to contact you!

I just left it at the "have a nap" statement. She didn't reply and I went to do something productive instead. Thinking back on it, she asked me the exact same thing last time (to meet her earlier). I did, because I had no other plans till then. Maybe this is a way to see if I give in to her requests every time or something?

daytona said:

I tried calling and I got a text in return, so I texted back. I just don't get why she got like that just because she didn't have her way.

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THis has happened to me a few times.

You answered your own question. A lot of women are so convinced that they are entitled to be in charge of who/ when and where of dating that they cannot tolerate any change which a guy initiates.
She was not tired, she was pissed that you made a change which felt,to her, that you were in charge and so you had to be punished by her . She did this by not wanting to go out later believing that you will also be upset and hurt.. This is the female 'prizebrat' mentality at work. Many of them really believe that they are doing YOU a huge favor by agreeing to go out with you and so, how dare YOU introduce YOUR wishes and inconvenience her.

I would not call her again because even it she agrees to another date it is likely she will flake just to spite you. You want a woman like that ?

YOu want a FLEXIBLE woman who is AVAILABLE, not some snot who is in love with her own 'entitlements' just because she owns a vagina.

Thanks a million for the solid advice guys. She ended up contacting me today and seemed to be sorry for flaking (although she didn't say it). I kept it short in an indifferent kind of way. She hinted at the weather being nice this week and I told her that we will do something, I just don't know when yet (because I'm actually busy as fvck for the next few days).

Bottom line is that her IL definitely seems to be higher and I think she got the point that I'm willing to walk away if she tries this again. Lesson learned for me but go ahead and keep the discussion alive, maybe it will help someone else too.

daytona said:

Thanks a million for the solid advice guys. She ended up contacting me today and seemed to be sorry for flaking (although she didn't say it).

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If she did not say it she did not mean it. All she is telling you be contacting you again is that she sees you as entertaining, or useful, or cute enough to hang out with..Even if she had said "sorry" LOUDLY, she many not have really meant it . Like all young guys you need to develop the skills of 'reading' a woman's intentions by interpreting her ACTIONS. A woman who shows up ON TIME for dates is sending you unmistakeble messages. Any behavior which is repeatedly less predictable is shady or shows low IL.

BY all means try again, BUT my gut tells me that her 'time switch' mindgame will happen again and you will be back to square#1.

I know I have a ton to learn but it's worth a shot.. what's there to lose. She does usually show up on time, but these last 2 times she decided to try and change the agreement. First she got what she wanted because I didn't have other plans (I agreed to it and I was just being honest, didn't play any "unavailable" games with her), but the 2nd time I was unable to and she did not seem to like it. Also, just so you know I didn't set the time in stone before the dates, we just both agreed we will meet around 5 or 6. In the future I'm gonna set a time and just tell her I'll be picking her up at whatever. No more calling to confirm.

Part of me thinks she just changed the time to see how available and flexible I am with my schedule towards her. Think that's a possibility?