I believe it is easier to become wealthy than to become a Don Juan.

To become wealthy requires education, talent, social skills and hardwork which by and large can be developed.

To become a Don Juan requires a change of perspective - and this is where the ego and pride must be dealt with - very difficult to do.

Of course there is overlap - a true Don Juan often does achieve a level of material success (since he realizes that women are not the focus) and thus he invests his time wisely.

Also as a thought experiment - are there more wealthy AFCs than true Don Juans out there?

Trader said:

I believe it is easier to become wealthy than to become a Don Juan.

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Depends on the person.

To become wealthy requires education, talent, social skills and hardwork which by and large can be developed.

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Subtract "education" and add "flexibility, creativity, and a willingness to think outside the box" and you are pretty close.

To become a Don Juan requires a change of perspective - and this is where the ego and pride must be dealt with - very difficult to do.

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Anyone can become wealthy by investing a small amount of money each month over a long period of time, but if you want to become wealthy in 15 years rather than 30 or 40, you are incorrect. To become wealthy in a short period of time requires most people to COMPLETELY change their perspective. As much or moreso than being good with women.

Well some people are born naturals with women, and some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouth. If you are neither then I'd say it's easier to become wealthy than it is to become a chick magnet. There's objective principles and rules to becoming wealthy, for the very reason that men still somewhat have control and influence in business and industry. With women objectivity is thrown out the window. Actually the more women control industry and commerce the more arbitrary and socialist it becomes. To me the question is almost like asking, "what's easier, succeeding in a primarily male derived system or a female derived system?".

Another thing is being a "DJ" and becoming wealthy arent mutually exclusive. If you are talking about becoming a "DJ" from a zero with women without wealth, then I think that's almost an impossiblity.

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Well some people are born naturals with women, and some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouth. If you are neither then I'd say it's easier to become wealthy than it is to become a chick magnet.

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Like I said, it depends on your timeframe.

If you're talking 30-40 years, then in the sense of not having to have any special skills and being relatively painless, then yea, it might technically be "easier" to build a nest egg.

If you are talking 5-10-15 years time period, there is no way in hell that it's easier to build wealth than to become good with women.

A solid understanding of human nature, reduced approach anxiety, and playing the numbers game are all you need to GET women, and maintaining frame is all you need to KEEP women. Building an empire in a short period of time (without natural skills or some other serious advantage) requires more blood, sweat, and tears, than anything to do with women.

One thing I will agree about though is that they do not have to be mutually exclusive. Any guy who focuses on his ambitions to build wealth might hit some dry patches along the way, but over the course of time he will always attract women, and the attraction increases exponentially with each rung on the ladder.

Bottom line- learn what you can about women, but focus on building wealth. Women will come as a by-product, but it doesn't work the other way around.