WARNING: While we at Venusian Skills thought this article to be highly relevant, and it's being posted it in its entirety, we believe that the community has more good to offer when compared to some undesireable side effects resulted in the wrong application of methods. With practicaly no other realistic alternative to understanding real world social dynamics and relationships available in the world today, the important thing to remember is that the values and understandings the community has brought to guys all over the world is of paramount value and it HAS positively changed and continue to change the lives of an incredible number of men.

Read the following article with an open mind and DO NOT be disencouraged if you found some of the pitfalls presented here in yourself during the course of your self-improvement journey. .......

....Having a false feeling of superiority just for knowing about the Community is a poor source of self-esteem. You can come across as extremely deluded to normal people because as much as the Community sees itself as an elite secret society, it's honestly mostly made up of below-average guys trying to catch up to the rest of the world in some very basic areas. For every one true player in the Community, there are hundreds of awkward guys trying to reach milestones that most people experienced as teenagers.
Being an unsolicited advice and opinion giver



Before they get into the Community, the typical guy has beliefs about women such as:

* Women are special, beautiful creatures.
* Women need to be saved and protected.
* Women need to be loved and nurtured.
* You need to make women feel special.
* Women need to be wined and dined and romanced.
* Women want nice guys.
* Women don't like sex.

A little too naive and romantic in other words. Then they get into the Community and before long they've been exposed to ideas like:

* Women are flaky and unreliable.
* Women are emotional and illogical.
* Women only live in the emotion of the moment, do what feels good at the time, and justify their actions to themselves after the fact.
* Women are manipulative and use guys for free drinks and dinners.
* Women are fickle and have short attention spans.
* Women are self-centered and self-interested.
* Women primarily go to clubs for attention and validation from men.
* Women constantly test men, try to devalue them, and try to make them jump through hoops.
* Women try to make men suck up to them and put them on a pedestal.
* Women think their pussies are made of gold and sell them to the highest bidder.
* Women don't know what they really want.
* Women are confused and hypocritical. They'll profess to dislike whorish behavior then blow a guy in a bathroom that night.
* Women are programmed to want to get knocked up by an Alpha Male then ensnare an unwitting Beta Male into raising the child for her.
* Women will cheat on their partners coldly and unemotionally.
* Women are slaves to how their friends and society sees them. They want to sleep around, but have to be discrete about it.
* Society's expectations have given women all kinds of weird hang ups up about sex and hooking up. Their minds are full of strange rationalizations and justifications.
* Women aren't happy for long in a relationship and you have to constantly keep them on their toes and off-balance to stay with them.
* Women are powerless to resist the right type of guy. Even if they're married, they'll get sucked along.
* Women are easily manipulated by simple magic tricks and talk of new agey topics.

I'm not saying there's no truth at all in these statements, of course there's some. These statements do describe some women, or the way some women act in certain circumstances. But taken as a whole, you gotta admit this set of beliefs is pretty negative, misogynistic even. Just as all women aren't special creatures that need to be rescued, they aren't all fickle, emotional, and selfish either. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, and it depends on the girl. Some girls are really normal and cool and easy to talk to.
Interpreting everything you come across through Community concepts

This gets into that saying, "If you give a child a hammer, he'll find that everything needs hammering." The Community's ideas provide a fairly extensive set of advice for socializing with women, and other people as well. But its concepts don't cover everything that can happen in the world. Lots of times things happen that a Seduction Community concept doesn't address.

Aside from that, every school of thought about the best way to get laid has its own little quirks. Some of these quirks are weird and unhealthy to hold. It could be a technique it espouses or an belief about women it holds. It may be an attitude or disposition it wants you to have. The whole system could be rotten.

Next, I think to a degree, every school of thought wants you to act like the 'guru' who came up with it so that you can capture the same success they have. That's cool, but what if you're unintentionally being told to emulate weird or unhealthy aspects of the guru's personality? There are personalities in the Community who are a bit aggressive or unstable. Some are arrogant. Some are sleazy. Some are tacky. Some are socially lacking with other people except for girls they want to sleep with. Some hold odd beliefs. Buy into the idea of being just like them and you'll incorporate their flaws into yourself.
Feeling you have to abandon your past life

I've seen this message board conversation quite a few times over the years:

Poster: "Ever since I got into the community I can't relate to my friends anymore. I want to SARGE but they just want to stay in and watch TV like AFCs."

Responders: "If you want to get good at this you have to turn your back on your old life. Your old friends aren't like you anymore."

I just think this attitude is really wrongheaded. It's just a bunch of dating tips, not a lifestyle you have to give up your old self to follow. Some socially awkward people can be negative about others and have a bad habit of looking for excuses to drop their friends. I was one of them. This viewpoint may be rooted in that.

Then there's that common idea that the only way to get good at picking up girls is to drop everything and devote yourself entirely to it for a few years. After all, that's how such and such guru did it. There's probably a more balanced way to go about it though. Why give up your current friends? Why screw up your education or career? There has to be a less obsessive approach to take.
Trying to proselytize and convert your friends

Another common forum thread:

Poster: "I'm trying to get my friends into the game but they're not interested. They're total AFCs but whenever I tell them about the community they don't care. I even tried showing my friend how to approach girls the last time we were out at the bar, but he just got annoyed with me."

Responders: "Oh, don't bother. You can't make anyone change if they don't want to. They're too plugged into the matrix. Getting into the community would mean admitting to themselves that they have a problem, they'd rather preserve their egos, blah blah blah."

Besides being condescending towards regular guys just because they're not into being a PUA, this 'convert the friends' attitude has some other issues:

* Okay, to be fair, sometimes it's just about being enthusiastic or wanting to help your lonely buddies out by sharing something that's helped you.
* But a lot of the time it's more about you than them...
* You want to be admired for introducing them to this awesome gold mine of knowledge.
* You want the rush of getting to be their guide and mentor into this new world.
* You want some people to go out with when you try to meet girls.
* You want the ego boost of being the wise teacher who brings the clueless chumps towards the light.
* Your own progress towards PUA-dom is slow and you think that by being a teacher to your friends you'll give yourself a kick in the ass.
* You need other people's approval before you feel comfortable being into the Community yourself.
* If they refuse, you get to feel superior to them for being so clueless and deluded.
* You want to intentionally put their skills with women under a spotlight and make them look bad, so you can feel good about yourself, all under the pretext of wanting to help.

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