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Adonis
07-03-2001, 03:24 PM
This world is full of altruistic and unselfish ideologies, the common good is frequently taught to us as a goal in life: be giving towards others, treat women right, buy flowers for her, pay for dates, etc. In the meantime, not knowing any better, men don't realize that these women who are in the receiving end are being spoiled. Soon she becomes rather comfortable and later gets bored from all the attention that she gets from him. Becoming unsatisfied she dumps Mr. Giving and searches for someone who is more of a challenge to tame.

Sound familiar? Of course it does, this debate has been an ongoing issue in our lives. Why does she like the jerk and not the nice guy? Well, to sum it up in one word for a jerk: "Selfish"

The jerk realizes that we live insignificant lives; most of our decisions don't radically affect other human beings. But even in these decisions, should we consider other persons when making them? Or should we simply observe other organisms — whether humans or animals — as tools in our quest for pleasure? You shoul start questioning everything that is not apparently clear. Therefore we must ask: Why should we care about anyone but ourselves? Shouldn't I just care about myself, coordinating all my actions to suit my stingy selfish purposes?

Ask yourself "What is my objective of life?" What is everyone's basic objective of life? You'll agree that "pleasure", even being a vague concept, is a good definition. You know that it is your primary objective of life (why else would you be here asking for advice with women?) — besides, of course, sheer survival — the quest for pleasure, the quest for individual pleasure. Only your pleasure gives you pleasure, therefore only your pleasure is your basic living objective. Besides, when persons commit themselves more to causes or ideologies than to themselves they become fanatics that will only bring pain to them and others. One should always think about himself first and only then about women's needs, wants, desires, etc.

I'm not saying that since you only care about yourself, you should not spend any resources in helping other persons achieve their own pleasure! That's very silly because in various circumstances you have to give pleasure in order to receive pleasure.

The approach one has towards life could — and should — be one of maximizing pleasure and seeking for the most individual happiness. This selfish and individualistic approach does not lead into a selfish behaviour but rather appear to be so. You should be aggressive — but not violent. The reason why you should'nt try hard to control your aggressiveness is that you have a goal in your life that you first must achieve before you can rest in peace (that goal, again, is pleasure). The more aggressive you are the more successful you will be with women. It shows your confidence, it shows you can stand your ground, and it shows you're a MAN.

Jerks don't offer and provide women with enough emotional support and gifts (being giving). These are things women hunger for and often seek out from men. The jerk being selfish in nature acts only to satisfy himself and leave women lingering with thirst trying to get such things from the jerk which in turn becomes a "challenge" to obtain - it's what keeps them around. On the other hand, the nice guy offers her all the things she wants and too much of it - which becomes stale after a while because she knows she can always have it and get it.

One last and final thought: defending selfishness is actually an unselfish action. A selfish individual favours and defends unselfish strategies because they are the ones that will allow him to explore the utmost out of others.

[This message has been edited by Adonis (edited 07-03-2001).]

Neophyte
07-03-2001, 04:44 PM
Adonis, this is one hell of a post you've written here! Thnx!

Agressive should be replaced by the word assertive, and then it's perfect!

Indeed, a guy should be selfish in an assertive way. Do what you like, reach your goal and feel great!

Maybe some of the "needy" guys out here will start applying this technique.

Cya,
Neo

[This message has been edited by Neophyte (edited 07-19-2001).]

thecraftylefty
01-14-2003, 09:48 AM
Another oldie, but a goodie. The greatest insight comes from hindsight.

"If your rap is strong it can't go wrong."

thecraftylefty

Ragnar
01-14-2003, 10:22 AM
Yeah I agree great post. Being selfish also creates scarcity in other peoples eyes because you are continually doing what YOU want and we all know that when something is scarce it is usually valuable. Moreover, the idea of being selfish also creates a sense that you love yourself which breeds confidence and to a greater extent charisma becuase people want to know what's so great about you.

Great idea posting this one!

SamePendo
12-19-2004, 01:13 PM
Bumpity.

DeathDealer
12-19-2004, 05:39 PM
I gotta disagree that you should be selfish and not care what others think to attract women or even people.

It's balance folks, know when to give and receive. I don't like hanging around folks that pay for their own share all the time and never volunteer to give out anything. I do like hanging around people that give all the time - but they tend to be taken advantage of. I guess you gotta balance it.

jakethasnake
12-19-2004, 06:38 PM
He's not talking about being assh0le abuser in ALL aspects of life. Just in regard to women. And even then, calling that person an "assh0le abuser" is going too far.

A better way to describe him is this:


He cares too much about his romantic/sexual goals and ambitions that he doesn't really let anything (maybe except physically harming a woman) get in the way. He GETS WHAT HE WANTS, that = CONFIDENCE = WOMEN FALL OVER EACH OTHER TO GET HIM.



End of story.



Oh, and AWESOME contribution, by the way. ;)

That_Guy49
12-21-2004, 12:11 PM
Adonis, didn't your mom teach you to be kind and giving. shame on you.

djbr
03-20-2005, 07:09 AM
This is the post that changed my life in major ways!!!

BUMP! Great one!

Mustache
04-21-2005, 02:48 PM
I gave her many gifts and now she is sick and tired of me.
Is it still time to revert it ?

FM 3321
04-21-2005, 10:06 PM
Fuc.king Adonis, awesome post. I'm starting to date different girls and I'm starting to really see the light. Going out in the field and then coming back to learn from your experiences here is very interesting.

Mister Big
04-22-2005, 09:12 AM
This post is brilliant.

One pitfall of the selfish approach is to avoid becoming an AZZhole in the process. Your selfish motivations and decisions should provide you an inner happiness and passion for life. Sharing this vibe with others, especially women, is very important to remember.

The "challenge" aspect of being selfish and unavailable is important to keep her interest, but secondary to the improved presentation you will attain. Women find this type of man (not a jerk) incredibly attractive and interesting in the long term as long as you avoid being conceited and pretentious.

Just food for thought.

kyanite
04-22-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by That_Guy49
Adonis, didn't your mom teach you to be kind and giving. shame on you.


Damn Hippies..

djbr
04-29-2005, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by kyanite
Damn Hippies..

LOL

LadiesMan2117
11-12-2008, 05:45 AM
bump. I think more people should read this.

MisterMcGee
11-12-2008, 09:21 AM
Why? It's pretty general stuff about why nice guys don't get women. :S