Alright so I read a post in here about hook point and it reminded me of a little term/technique we use in our local community called hooking that I'd like to share with you all.

This is a little different from "hook point", we (our local community) call it "hooking", and the purpose isn't to reach the hook point but to increase BT and sexual AND emotional escalation. So, not only reach the HP but blast past it. It's essentially the same thing, except better.

This was done by two of the well seasoned guys in our local community. It's somewhat a treat if you are the analytical person.

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The Mayfair & Science Hooking Model



Y axis= Her emotional state
X axis= Steps elapsed

A = Open (warm approach, introduced by friend, whatever -- start of an interaction)
B = Kino to screen for time wasters & set up for hooking (doesn’t matter what type but the stronger the better)
-if she rejects it, she is not ready right now, so no deal. Maybe you'll try again in the future, but for now its a NO.
-if she accepts move to C.
C = Looking for an opportunity to move to attraction with a gentle push away
D = Push - neg, disqualifier or takeaway (1st one needs to be gentle, makes her emotional state drop slightly)
E = She stays or flies but then reinitiates the interaction (if she flies, next for a new girl and wait for her to reinitiate)
F = Pull - Reward her with an opportunity for her to invest and a kino anchor. If she **** tests, **** test back & disqualify if she fails the **** test (makes her emotional state spike and allows you to build to kino anchored hook)
G = Push – Hard Neg, Disqualifier or Take Away (makes her emotional state drop)
H = She stays or reinitiates the interaction (if she flies, next for a new girl and wait for her to reinitiate)
I = Pull - Reward her with another opportunity for her to invest and reinforce the kino anchor. If she **** tests, **** test back & disqualify if she fails the **** test (reinforces emotional spike - pumping BT)
J = Push – Insane Neg, Hard Disqalifier or Takeaway (makes her emtional state drop)
K = She stays or reinitiates the interaction (if she flies, next for a new girl and wait for her to reinitiate)
L = Pull - Reward her with another opportunity for her to invest and reinforce the kino anchor. If she **** tests, **** test back & disqualify if she fails the **** test (reinforces emotional spike again and pumps BT further)
M = Keep cycling push pull til she is hooked, look for opportunity to isolate, extract or transition to sexual if isolation / extraction is not required
N = Extract / Isolate then transition to sexual.
O = Begin sexual push pull to pump BT to sale.

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This is essentially a guide on how to use negs/push-pull technique effectively.

Some points of clarification:

Screening: Screening means getting a feeling for the girl. Is she worth it? Is she going to be a waste of time? Is she open? Some girls are just pissed off that night, maybe somethings happened to them that you couldn't predict. Don't worry, find a new girl.

It's pretty much knowing exactly what you are after, and getting rid of anyone who doesn't fall into the category.

Kino Anchor: This is fairly advanced game. You all know what kino is, touch. Anchoring is a technique used in NLP to transition the mind back into a different state. EG. When you were little, your father was driving you, had a car crash and died. Every time you hear screeching tires/see a car wreck, you receive negative feelings because you have been taken back into that state of mind.

Another example, you're training your dog. You tell it to sit, then you help it sit. Once it does, you reward it with praise and a treat. What happens now? You do it again and the dog sits. But, it's also expectant of a treat.

Now, let's take it into terms of social interactions with women. I'm going to give you a quote from Science because he explains it much better than I do.

You neg a girl. She gets mad. You dont back down, but you throw her a **** test, which she chooses to pass. As she is passing the **** test you hold her around the waist with your left arm, and have your right hand against her neck and ear. You then kiss her neck and ear and whisper (what ever) in her ear. This interaction puts her into a sexual state. You see her a week later. She runs up to hug you. You hold her in the same way and whisper in her ear. She returns to the sexual state she was in when you did it the first time without you needing to neg or **** test her. Anchored. In this case it is the body contact that reminds her - kino anchored.

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Hook:As in addicted. To get her hooked like addicted to crack. You pretty much do this my rinse/repeating dropping her emotional state then bringing it back up, see the model above. But you can't just randomly rinse and repeat, you need to INCREASE INTENSITY, of both the neg and the reward, every time you cycle through once, you reinforce the kino anchor.

This isn't really conventional game, this is kind of like cheating. Success rates are actually higher than conventional game, but it relies fairly heavily on the screening before hand. Nonetheless, it's great if you're just after some fun.

Cheerios,

-Lust.

Edit: I had to upload the picture because copy/pasting the diagram screws up due to different formatting of the text when you're typing the message as opposed to actually viewing the posted text, sorry.

To admins: Is there a way to make the picture display in the message without readers having to click on the link?

This is where men totally loss the plot. When they develop formulas for life. Like life has a set of formulas really. In this case if the formula is mastered even the robot could score. Yay. Stop being a schematist.

ZenGodMod said:

This is where men totally loss the plot. When they develop formulas for life. Like life has a set of formulas really. In this case if the formula is mastered even the robot could score. Yay. Stop being a schematist.

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Actually, I'm not a very analytical person at all, I tend to just "wing it" when I am in social interactions, and the man that wrote this is quite the same, but this still has value. We wing it but we understand why this happen, it demonstrates WHY women respond the way they do.

Take it or leave it, it's up to you.

Lust said:

Actually, I'm not a very analytical person at all, I tend to just "wing it" when I am in social interactions, and the man that wrote this is quite the same, but this still has value. We wing it but we understand why this happen, it demonstrates WHY women respond the way they do.

Take it or leave it, it's up to you.

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I think thats a valid point... To be REALLY GREAT at picking up girls I think you need a lot of knowledge. You need to know whats up. But all that knowledge should be internalized to where its not a logical thought when in field - its just what is.

@ Lust: Hey thanks man, I look at this as a personal favor because I'm the one who actually asked about it. Thanks man, props too you.

@ ^ Yah, but to get to that point you have to do LOTS of reading, and then run HUNDREDS of sets with this knowledge sitting in your mind the entire time UNTIL it becomes second nature too you.

Miguel said:

@ Lust: Hey thanks man, I look at this as a personal favor because I'm the one who actually asked about it. Thanks man, props too you.

@ ^ Yah, but to get to that point you have to do LOTS of reading, and then run HUNDREDS of sets with this knowledge sitting in your mind the entire time UNTIL it becomes second nature too you.

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The presumption that you have to do lots of reading to have knowledge is false, many guys who understand the finest details of social dynamics don't bother. But still, books are great if you pick the right ones.

And np

Lust said:

We wing it but we understand why this happen, it demonstrates WHY women respond the way they do.

Take it or leave it, it's up to you.

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Or maybe it's just a numbers game of finding the girl who thinks your hot, she's horny, maybe drunk and she perceives your confidence in your system to be self-confidence, so it would work in spite of (not because of) all the negs and push/pull. Point is why you think women respond the way they do might be faulty attribution. I'm sure this model fails more often than it succeeds (maybe more than other models would), but I got to give you credit you admitted and addressed failures happening within the model.

ketostix said:

Or maybe it's just a numbers game of finding the girl who thinks your hot, she's horny, maybe drunk and she perceives your confidence in your system to be self-confidence, so it would work in spite of (not because of) all the negs and push/pull. Point is why you think women respond the way they do might be faulty attribution. I'm sure this model fails more often than it succeeds (maybe more than other models would), but I got to give you credit you admitted and addressed failures happening within the model.

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Perhaps, but this isn't aimed for cheap shots at young, naive, desperate or insecure (or drunk) women. That was the point of screening, to find someone who was worth it.

I know it's somewhat difficult take onboard, but those of you who have their "game up to scratch, as in are fairly good at attracting and building comfort with women, should give this a try.

The driving point of this method is the impact you have on her emotional state, low-high, lower to higher, even lower to even higher etc... This is why we coined the term Hooking. Crack addicts hooked on crack are addicted not just because of the intense high but the intense lows which fuels to desire to feel high again. This is somewhat the prinicple here.

Cheerios