I don't want a team of women. I don't want a bunch of plates. I want to find an intelligent interesting woman to share my life with and have some kids. I want a woman with class, I am done with trashy low class women. I want someone who is a team player, who knows their role in a relationship. I want someone who is positive and fun, not some complaining harpie. I want a woman who has a get up and go mentality. No lazy people need apply. I want someone who's mind is open to new experiences and is willing to try new things. Someone who is as curious about life as they are pratcial about living it. I don't need some super hot bimbo, or some fat ugly girl with a great personality. I want a real woman, a decent woman, someone who enjoys sex but isn't ruled by it, nor afraid of it. I don't want some woman who needs constant validation, someone who has their own life and dreams that are compatible with my own. I've been single for a while and its taught me exactly what I want. Now I have to go find it.

I think the thing that is most important about sites like this is that a man goes out and learns how to deal with women, how women work and the type of women that are out there so he knows how to narrow down his search to find what he wants and then how to act when he gets with the woman he wants.

I just don't have time for more than one woman in my life. I have to many responsibilities and things to take care of. One woman would be more than enough to deal with at the moment. I have real life struggles to deal with. I want a woman to be part of my refuge as opposed to being my life, I have a life, a woman should compliment my life, not run it for me.

At this point I would rather be alone than deal with less than what I want. I guess I will continue to share my past experiences in the general discussion forum, maybe someone can learn from my mistakes, and I'll post my new experiences in this one so I can benefit from the wisdom here.

It's time for a change.

Dear Warrior,
Yes you get fed up with sex for Sex's sake,your apprenticeship has been served,these low class women were in a way very useful to you,in that now you know what you want,one should not be too prescriptive,and one must never just retreat to guarded domesticity,but the establishment of a Laundry list of characteristics would seem useful.At the same point myself three years ago I established a coldly analytical job specification,all up there were 18 areas that I assessed they broke into three broad categories Must haves,which I assigned ten points each to and without which the game usually never got beyond a meeting,then I had highly desirable characteristics which I gave five points each to,then helpful characteristics to which I assigned two points each.... at the end to make up 100% I gave everyone a score for that elusive but indefinable quality,chemistry,leaving a few points for unforeseen qualities ...Everyone is different,for me Dancing,shagging,healthy life style were so important that without these nothing could happen...I also weighted silly things like table manners,personal hygiene,being a very early riser,Idle chatter while indulging in sex,to many these are perhaps irrelevent idiosyncracies but they get on your nerves at first,but can grow into deal breakers....I weighed 32 women in the balance over seven months...during this time I was most fortunate to have a lovely obliging Lady who for a few Handyman Chores in her run down home,and the occasional Take away dinner looked after my basic needs,this is important because Sex after a long period of abstinence will skew any balanced approach...The upshot was that amazingly after a couple of short phone calls and two E.Mails I met an interesting Lady on the Net...After having been so careful for seven months it took maybe a second to see she was it....We have been together for almost two years ...The habits of a lifetime are hard to kick,so I still do my thing and spin the odd plate from time to time.All this time I have not met anyone who I would really look at twice...then surprisingly a couple of weeks ago I met another such woman,she was so lovely I seriously thought about having a fling,but no,not really,what I have took so much pain and sacrifice to arrive at why risk everything?...But I raised that point just to illustrate that if you keep your window open,one day someone who suits you will go by...

You're definitely one of the guys that "gets it," then. The discussion forum needs you.

The guys that are obsessed with finding a harem and having sex for the sake of sex, even when it compromises their self respect, are not yet at this point in their development. They're still letting the pvssy control their every move.

Spinning plates indefinitely sounds like a GREAT idea until you actually try to do it. Then, you have to face the reality that it's NOT this idealized arrangement where girls will want to be with you and care about you, even though they know you're sleeping with other girls. This just doesn't happen in real life, even if women really would rather share a successful man than date a loser.

Spinning plates should be used as a filtering process to prevent you from ending up with a less than suitable mate. Once you are reasonably certain that a plate is less than suitable, she should be dropped. Period. It is a means to the end. The DJ stuff we talk about is a means to an end, too--it allows us to become the best version of ourselves, so that when we meet a girl that we DO want, we will get her and keep her.

This website is NOT about ego boosting via banging a lot of chicks. It's NOT about getting "revenge" on women or bashing them. It's about getting girls--sure--but also about so much more.

Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. I don't have a laundry list as of yet, but I have an idea of what I do want. I think the point that has been driven home to me is this...am I the sort of man who deserves the sort of woman I want. Am I doing what I should be doing and making myself into the version of me who deserves this sort of woman? Does the fact that I think I am not show that my inner game is not strong? And I know the anwsers to these questions. At this point I have made a lot of mistakes, and I feel like I am in the process of cleaning them up.

I usually focus on physical chemistry first and then move on down. Typically if two people are mutually attracted to each other, conversation etc comes much easier in my opinion.

If it ain't there or if she's married/attached I throw her in the activity buddies area.

Warrior74 said:

I think the thing that is most important about sites like this is that a man goes out and learns how to deal with women, how women work and the type of women that are out there so he knows how to narrow down his search to find what he wants and then how to act when he gets with the woman he wants.

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I respectfully disagree.

The important thing about sites like this....is to make a person realize he is a man, not necessarily how to deal with women, nor how to act when he gets a woman.

The important thing this site brought to me....was not in acting like a man...it was being a man. No acting. Just being who I am. Im a man. I know what I want. When a particular someone presents herself, meets my qualifications other than having a pvssy, then I don't need to act like anything other than who I am. If that someone doesnt like who I am, then she's disqualified.

I do agree....one can be enough. The vetting process is the point of getting to what you want. Spinning plates isn't the goal....the goal is learning about yourself and what you want in a woman. And women arent the be all and end all to our lives. Neither is spinning plates.

We're men. We have many interests. We're dynamic. We adapt, overcome and achieve. Women and our relationships with them are but one aspect of our lives.

This is exactly why people should not marry in their 20's.

You can't know what you want until you have a healthy range of comparison.

Me personally...I can't imagine having gotten tied down to anyone when I was in my 20's, even the one who I can look back on now and say "I could have spent some time with this girl!"

I just didn't have the perspective that would have allowed me to appreciate her. It never would have worked.

Personally I don't think I knew what I wanted until about a year or two ago. This was the period of time after I had gotten out of my LTR, which I learned a lot from. Then I had a few casual flings with various women of various ages. this allowed me to see that women are basically the same at their core, regardless of age.

This was the icing on the cake. I had a good feel for what I was looking for, I just had to see if there was much of a difference between a 25 yr old and a 32 yr old. My conclusion- there's not much difference.

So now I know exactly what I need. A 26 yr old cute, funny, witty, smart, exotic, big breasted brunette with nice green eyes and a juicy booty.

That's not asking too much, is it? haha

semantics, you know what I meant. christ on crutch, some of you guys.

mtnkng said:

I respectfully disagree.

The important thing about sites like this....is to make a person realize he is a man, not necessarily how to deal with women, nor how to act when he gets a woman.

The important thing this site brought to me....was not in acting like a man...it was being a man. No acting. Just being who I am. Im a man. I know what I want. When a particular someone presents herself, meets my qualifications other than having a pvssy, then I don't need to act like anything other than who I am. If that someone doesnt like who I am, then she's disqualified.

I do agree....one can be enough. The vetting process is the point of getting to what you want. Spinning plates isn't the goal....the goal is learning about yourself and what you want in a woman. And women arent the be all and end all to our lives. Neither is spinning plates.

We're men. We have many interests. We're dynamic. We adapt, overcome and achieve. Women and our relationships with them are but one aspect of our lives.

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Jeffst1980 said:

The guys that are obsessed with finding a harem and having sex for the sake of sex, even when it compromises their self respect, are not yet at this point in their development. They're still letting the pvssy control their every move.

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Guys don't search out SoSuave on Google because they're getting too much pussie.

And if anything compromises self-respect (assuming an AFC even has a concept of that) it's a Scarcity/Sniper mentality. Worry less about the guys tapping their "harems" and more about the chump crucifying himself to be the martyr for his singular "dream girl". He's far more common.



When you've been married to your perfect "quality woman" for 7 years and she wont put out even half as much, or with the same fervency as she did when you were both single and childless, come back to this thread and tell me how you're not into "sex for sex's sake". Sex is only as "meaningful" as you're willing to make it. I've never had "meaningless" sex; I meant to ƒuck every one I did.

Housewife + Pornstar = "quality"

A woman should only ever be a compliment to a Man's life, never the focus of it.

Good luck - we are all in the race - Personally, I doubt I'll ever find that - 37 and still looking...

Jeffst1980 said:

Spinning plates indefinitely sounds like a GREAT idea until you actually try to do it. Then, you have to face the reality that it's NOT this idealized arrangement where girls will want to be with you and care about you, even though they know you're sleeping with other girls. This just doesn't happen in real life, even if women really would rather share a successful man than date a loser.

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I agree,"Spinning Plates" may be helpful for some guys who are given to the
Scarcity Mentality or who habitually "worship their latest Soulmate."
Dating several women and juggling their emotional demands, fending off their attachments, and still pushing forward your own career, being busy with sports and recreation is all exhausting.
"Spinning " just does not deliver what it appears to promise many times.

More input than output. The cost/ benefits rarely tilt in my favor.
Frankly I would rather go fishing.