I look through the general discussion and see a whole load of guys with very little experience of anything wondering how they can pick up bevvies of gorgeous women and be some kind of super pimp. Sorry guys, but you won't. Not yet at any rate. You need to start at the very beginning or you're going to end up very disappointed.

There seem to be a fair few of the aforementioned who have very little social experience at all, and this is probably the first place to start. You need to calibrate with people generally before you can think of going to a club and picking up some hottie who's defences are up. So get out and make some steps in this direction. Talk to other guys and just hang out with people. Talk sh!t and have some fun. Learn how to be friends with people and just talk. Get to being comfortable with people. Don't worry about being alpha, beta, gamma or whatever.

You don't have to go free climbing or parachute jumping or any crazy sh1t like that, just be a bit more social. Its hard, but the rewards will be far more than just banging some fittie. Take it from one who used to hate being around other people: make the effort and you WILL begin to enjoy it. You will make the odd faux pas but people are far more forgiving than you think, and a whole new world will open up to you. You will probably also be surprised at how far removed from mainstream society you are (you know deep down who you are, gamers and other assorted geeks).

Also, take a good look at your life and ask yourself why you want to become a player pimp. A lot of the time you will find its down to having something to prove either to yourself or others, or trying to fill a hole created by loneliness. Know that sleeping with every woman who's ever lived won't fill this void. This is something you need to do for yourself by becoming happy with yourself and making sure the relationships you have with all people in your life are happy and as healthy as they can be.If you are unhappy with yourself there is often a good reason: because part of you knows you are not being all that you could be. It may require some changes and you might need to go through some hard times to accomplish this, but you will be better for it in the long run.

I think that looking at your life in this way is one of the most fundamental building blocks of being a true DJ, by which I mean someone who is truly happy with himself. When you have this women and many other good things will follow but ironically this is probably when you realise how unimportant a lot of this stuff is. Without this you can try any type of self improvement but you will probably end up back in the same place. You will be looking for answers outside of yourself and when you don't get them either lose heart or get trapped in another restricted view of the world. Look inside yourself, do some deep soul-searching and ask yourself what will really give you happiness, not just temporary pleasure.

First post I ever repped.

Looking within is hard work. I am doing that now about my career and the course of the rest of my life. It's not an overnight thing. It takes work to find out what you really want and need out of life.

Good post, I am one of the guys you are targeting, altough I am young, what kills me is how far behind I feel with everything. Alot of it is social related, I never really had the active social life I wanted. Seriously, I like shut down. And spent copious amounts of time indoors, on the computer, looking at lots of porn. There have been times when I have just hated people and there sheet. I have a tendency to see people as followers as well.

As for sleeping with everything that moves, well, doesn't every guy feel that way? Plus yes, I feel empty alot as well. Alot of it is also not being that bad boy that all the *****es love. I am not a nice guy, but don't exactly have em clawing at me. This worries me, this worries me cause I feel like no one notices me, or is attracted to me.

Also, take a good look at your life and ask yourself why you want to become a player pimp. A lot of the time you will find its down to having something to prove either to yourself or others, or trying to fill a hole created by loneliness. Know that sleeping with every woman who's ever lived won't fill this void. This is something you need to do for yourself by becoming happy with yourself and making sure the relationships you have with all people in your life are happy and as healthy as they can be.If you are unhappy with yourself there is often a good reason: because part of you knows you are not being all that you could be. It may require some changes and you might need to go through some hard times to accomplish this, but you will be better for it in the long run.

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Excellent post!

Yeah, but this post fails to address a few issues:

1) If you are naturally introvert and don't generally enjoy hanging-out with people and prefer being alone, then how do you follow advice that's contrary to your personality make-up? In a sence, you'll end up hanging out with people with the abstract hope of eventually landing a hot babe. This sounds like a very weak premise for an introvert person who likes spending time with himself rather than with other people to change that way. There is more motivation if you directly intereact with women because at least you are directly motivated.

2) Sometimes it has nothing to do with general social skills but specific fears about women. I'm a business person and have to communicate with people every day -- lots of other people on here have no problems socially calibrating with people in general -- but the fuse blows off when you are dealing with women. Or you could have confidence in success in other areas of life, but when it is about women, then there is a nose-dive -- like there is just a dent somewhere in the women department.

3) The thing that distinguishes talking to people except for women (attractive women within the age group or yonger), and talking to women is basically the fear factor and rejection factor. Now, while it appears that you are knocking down parachuting and rock climbing -- I think that exercises that deal with the topic of fear would be helpful in developing confidence so they shouldn't be discounted entirely. While I acknowledge skydiving and rock climbing are extreme ways of dealing with fears -- but at least it acknowleges in the psyche that there are some fears, believe it or not, that are worst than what you can perceive any woman can do to you.

Other than those three issues, I think this idea is already circulated in the form of a bootcamp and are nothing really new. This is really foundational stuff everyone who read the DJ bible is already expected to know.

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1) If you are naturally introvert and don't generally enjoy hanging-out with people and prefer being alone, then how do you follow advice that's contrary to your personality make-up? In a sence, you'll end up hanging out with people with the abstract hope of eventually landing a hot babe. This sounds like a very weak premise for an introvert person who likes spending time with himself rather than with other people to change that way. There is more motivation if you directly intereact with women because at least you are directly motivated.

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I consider myself an introvert but i still enjoy spending time with other people. I don't really understand this point... I don't know of anyone who doesn't like spending time with other people. I agree that spending time with other people simply for the hope of getting laid is silly, but i don't think the OP was saying that.

I think his post was mostly geared towards people who lack social skills in general who are trying to pick-up girls. If you're socially awkward in general then i don't really see how you can be successful with women.

Sometimes it has nothing to do with general social skills but specific fears about women.

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I don't think the OP meant for this tip to be geared towards guys like this.

There seem to be a fair few of the aforementioned who have very little social experience at all, and this is probably the first place to start.

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The thing that distinguishes talking to people except for women (attractive women within the age group or yonger), and talking to women is basically the fear factor and rejection factor.

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I'm not sure about this... I don't think fear of rejection has to do exclusively with women. Sometimes fear of rejection from a group can be frightening as well. Anyone who has been through high school can attest that while popularity might be childish, acceptance from your peers (both male and female) is important.

If you lack social experience, i think working on social skills in general is an important stepping stone towards becoming successful with women (especially for younger guys).