here is my problem, i am relatively new to the game, and i have no problem approaching and making conversation. girls even seem really into me for a bit before i start trying to get them to come home with me.

i dont know or use any routines or stuff like that, but i cant seem to get past talking and dancing wiith them. i had one tonight that was chatting with me, coming back to me and asking me to go smoke with her etc. but i just could not close her for the life of me.

its like im almost there but i just cant quite get it. my friends say that i am too friendly when i open and start conversation and stuff, but all they do is ask really really boring questions and they never, ever bring girls home. i think it is just because i have the balls to talk to approach and go for it, and they dont.

so can anyone give me some help? even if it is just a routine or a question or something.

buddy try using kino. When talking to them close the distance use eye contact and rub up against her with a body part ie your knee touch her knee slowly feel the water then your arm rub against her arm then just get more confident and kiss her shoulder all the while being playful with a smile. they love this gutsiness in a guy. Be alpha. The AFC doesn't know how to pass the conversation stage. next level is kino very importante.

Jacob gave you the right answer bro! Stop being afraid to touch! Don't wait for the girl to make a move or your ass will be in the friend zone. Women know when you're interested so stop tring to hide it. If you wanna get her # or escalate she knows it, so you better strike while the iron's hot.