This is a follow-up to my post last Saturday where I mentioned that I just got the phone number of this super big lady at my gym who had been playing hard to get with me now for almost a year and a half. After a long absence from the gym, she returned last Saturday and I decided now was my time to strike. So I got her number, but here's my dilemma:


1. I don't have much privacy where I live: I live with a roommate and an older sibling, so it is extremely difficult to bring women home to spend the night.

2. I haven't had a car since 2005 due to financial constraints and so if I scheduled a date with this chick for the weekend, I may find myself in a situation where I may be stuck down town at the end of our date because I live in the suburbs of Philadelphia and will be catching a train into the city at night to meet her. She many not feel comfortable driving that far to drop me off where I live yet, as she doesn't really know me well at this time.


3. This one however, is my primary dilemma. I want to bang this woman on our first date and I'm not sure how to go about it. Taking her to my place even if she were willing is certainly not an option in this case considering what I described above. It's also confusing and quite a gamble in the sense that on the one hand, she strikes me as the kind of woman who really doesn't give second chances to men who don't act fast enough and strike once they have an opportunity. Yet on the other hand, I am concerned that she may feel insulted if I gave her a hint that I wanted to bang her that same night we went out...depending on the chemistry and vibe we get. She may not feel comfortable taking me to her place so soon.


Would it be silly for me to say things like: "I would have liked to take you to my place for a little after party tonight but unfortunately, I don't have much privacy. How about we go to your place instead and keep this party going?"


Do you guys have some suggestions on some ways I could suggest this to her without being too direct and obvious, or is the direct approach the best one in this case? I mean, I'm 29, this woman should be at least 33 or so. She ain't a kid, so I would hope she won't get offended by me being direct. The way she shakes that big ass of hers at the gym whenever she walks definitely shows that she wants someone to give her some. Anyway, I would appreciate you guys' suggestions. The risk with such dates is you definitely don't want to say anything stupid because you may have misread the woman. If you do that, everything will crash.

Frank2500 said:

This is a follow-up to my post last Saturday where I mentioned that I just got the phone number of this super big lady at my gym who had been playing hard to get with me now for almost a year and a half. After a long absence from the gym, she returned last Saturday and I decided now was my time to strike. So I got her number, but here's my dilemma:


1. I don't have much privacy where I live: I live with a roommate and an older sibling, so it is extremely difficult to bring women home to spend the night.

2. I haven't had a car since 2005 due to financial constraints and so if I scheduled a date with this chick for the weekend, I may find myself in a situation where I may be stuck down town at the end of our date because I live in the suburbs of Philadelphia and will be catching a train into the city at night to meet her. She many not feel comfortable driving that far to drop me off where I live yet, as she doesn't really know me well at this time.


3. This one however, is my primary dilemma. I want to bang this woman on our first date and I'm not sure how to go about it. Taking her to my place even if she were willing is certainly not an option in this case considering what I described above. It's also confusing and quite a gamble in the sense that on the one hand, she strikes me as the kind of woman who really doesn't give second chances to men who don't act fast enough and strike once they have an opportunity. Yet on the other hand, I am concerned that she may feel insulted if I gave her a hint that I wanted to bang her that same night we went out...depending on the chemistry and vibe we get. She may not feel comfortable taking me to her place so soon.


Would it be silly for me to say things like: "I would have liked to take you to my place for a little after party tonight but unfortunately, I don't have much privacy. How about we go to your place instead and keep this party going?"


Do you guys have some suggestions on some ways I could suggest this to her without being too direct and obvious, or is the direct approach the best one in this case? I mean, I'm 29, this woman should be at least 33 or so. She ain't a kid, so I would hope she won't get offended by me being direct. The way she shakes that big ass of hers at the gym whenever she walks definitely shows that she wants someone to give her some. Anyway, I would appreciate you guys' suggestions. The risk with such dates is you definitely don't want to say anything stupid because you may have misread the woman. If you do that, everything will crash.

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My last post for tonight.

1: Make steps to get your own privacy, even if that means living in an house share and having your own room.
Having your own personal space is a MUST, a house, flat, apartment is always better.
Don’t worry if you live in an house, just make sure you have privacy to ‘chill’ and you wont get one of your house mates crashing near you all night, you want privacy and the mood to set romance.

2: Having a car is ‘over-rated’ you don’t really need a car, unless your dating a girl who sees your financial assets has your only ‘worth’. Some girls really don’t care, some girls also drive, so having a car should not be a concern, past ‘being able to hook up’. If you catch a train, make sure you know the last train home. DO NOT Expect her to do Anything, you have to have your bases covered.

And last Number 3.
3: I found going to have FUN and nothing else on your mind, will normally relate to her asking you back to her place, chill, go to nice bars, talk and joke over beers and eventually the night wears on, your having such a good time and she wants to extend it further.


Being upfront about wanting to fuc* her before meeting her, makes you sound, in my book, a complete sleazy fuc*!


If I would advocate direct game e.t.c in this situation:

A: you don’t have anywhere to take her.
B: you would have to persuade her to buy a train ticket, if she came back to yours.

And C:

If you fuc* this chick, it will be on her terms and her terms only, I think that is clear.

So get the notion of bagging her as* the first night out of your head and go to have FUN.

You really don’t have much choice.

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Would it be silly for me to say things like: "I would have liked to take you to my place for a little after party tonight but unfortunately, I don't have much privacy. How about we go to your place instead and keep this party going?"

These can be used perfectly when your having fun and you want to extend the night and is perfectly fine to say, AT THE END OF THE NIGHT!

But coming straight out you want to fuc& her, without first having a good night out, to build attraction, romance, highten the mood, have fun, flirt a little, is putting the cart before the horse and unless your paying her (large house, nice car and a big bank account) I suggest you go and have fun ONLY, the latter can come if you get it on.

Consider it fore-play!

I can't relate to the city commute thing, but after a first date, I just walk into the chick's apartment like I am already her bf. Then chat, kino, kiss-test, ASD counters if necessary, and by that time we are in her bedroom

1.First of all make this a date were liquor is involved.
2. Show strong kino right away. This sets the tone.
3. Go out and have fun. Don't talk about religion, race or politics.
4. Find a bar or club near her house. ( This way after you guys are done drinking it will be easier for you to make your way back to her place.
5. Look good, smell good.
6. Read the Dj bible before going out. This will put you in a good mindset.

Good luck in getting laid. BTW try to at least get a car and your own place. Your going to be losing out on pu$$y if you don't.

Re:

Thanks to you all for your comments. To Jonwon, I wasn't suggesting that I would try to give her a hint that I'd like to try to get into her pants prior to actually meeting her on the date. My question was about a strategy I could use to do so if the vibe and chemistry between us on the date is pretty good. I'm already starting off at a disadvantage because the last train to my neighborhood from the city gets there at 11pm, which is unfortunately the time when most lounges and clubs start to get really exciting. I can't really suggest meeting her in a bar near where she lives because she may live in an area that may not only be hard to get to via public transportaion but also, if it's not the safest neighborhood, I will be putting myself at risk walking around in an unfamiliar area. Philadelphia's murder rate this year is already at 343.

And as much as we would like to believe that most women don't care if a man has a car or not, a good number of them do, especially in this Philadelphia. I had met a South African chick at my gym last summer who behaves no differently from mamny young American women. Conflicting schedules prevented us from meeting each other in the weeks after we met, but when I was ready to do so, I suggested double dating with one of my former classmates who has a car, he was thinking about taking his girlfriend out that same weekend. Like many humans would do, realizing that I was depending on him, tmy former classmate dropped me at the last minute and did his thing with his girlfriend, and that's how the South African chick knew I didn't have a car. Since then, I never heard from her again. All of the guys I know here in Philly are very unreliable when it comes to depending on them for help. I used to have one very good and reliable friend but he left last summer to Canada. So I have many obstacles to deal with, unfortunately.

I personally don't think the purpose of the mature forum is to teach men how to "play" women into sex. Therefore, I will refrain from giving advice in this topic.

Best advice you will recieve:

If you want to bed her, lose all desire to bed her.

Big Booty Girls!!!!!!!!!


Frank likes big butts and he cannot lie.


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I can't believe Latinoman's and guru1000's replies. I disagree. There is nothing wrong with desire as long as you believe and are confident you can get what you desire and can handle not getting it too. Desire is almost a necessity.

Frank you're just going to have to use your best judgement in how you can work out the logistics and take the risk that you might have to get a cab ride home worst case scenario. Try to get a meetup near her place as possible. Maybe go to a club or bar and with the intention to get her back to her place. If she has a few drinks and you get back to her place, sex is a very high probability. Make your move.

Latinoman said:

I personally don't think the purpose of the mature forum is to teach men how to "play" women into sex. Therefore, I will refrain from giving advice in this topic.

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Best response ever !! threads like this should be moved to the Main Forum. Frank i'm almost positive your a troll..I've never heard of any guy proud of the fact that he chases "SUPER BIG LADIES"...or attracted to 300 lb whales.

Matter of fact..I've never seen or heard of SUPER BIG LADIES playing hard to get..I smell phony..

Interceptor those girls are attractive this is more Franks speed : Warning SUPER BIG LADY ahead

Frank2500 said:

Thanks to you all for your comments. To Jonwon, I wasn't suggesting that I would try to give her a hint that I'd like to try to get into her pants prior to actually meeting her on the date. My question was about a strategy I could use to do so if the vibe and chemistry between us on the date is pretty good. I'm already starting off at a disadvantage because the last train to my neighborhood from the city gets there at 11pm, which is unfortunately the time when most lounges and clubs start to get really exciting. I can't really suggest meeting her in a bar near where she lives because she may live in an area that may not only be hard to get to via public transportaion but also, if it's not the safest neighborhood, I will be putting myself at risk walking around in an unfamiliar area. Philadelphia's murder rate this year is already at 343.

And as much as we would like to believe that most women don't care if a man has a car or not, a good number of them do, especially in this Philadelphia. I had met a South African chick at my gym last summer who behaves no differently from mamny young American women. Conflicting schedules prevented us from meeting each other in the weeks after we met, but when I was ready to do so, I suggested double dating with one of my former classmates who has a car, he was thinking about taking his girlfriend out that same weekend. Like many humans would do, realizing that I was depending on him, tmy former classmate dropped me at the last minute and did his thing with his girlfriend, and that's how the South African chick knew I didn't have a car. Since then, I never heard from her again. All of the guys I know here in Philly are very unreliable when it comes to depending on them for help. I used to have one very good and reliable friend but he left last summer to Canada. So I have many obstacles to deal with, unfortunately.

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I think, no matter what the outcome is:

Your realizing where you live, you need your own transport, so in that the best seduction tip, i or anyone can give is:

Make efforts to get your own wheels, since it seems it is essential where you live to have that.

Has for the last train home, there is nothing wrong with communicating this to the chick, why not tell her you would like to go, but the last train is at 11pm and your not driving, see what she says, thats what i would do.

A Response to Drum&Bass

Drum&Bass, you're the second person on this forum who has labeled me a troll and I don't appreciate it at all. I'm not going to sit here trying to defend myself to you. Think what you want, I really don't give a f*ck. However, I have a suggestion that I believe whould work best for both you and I and anyone else on this forum who as much as I may disagree, shares the same incorrect impression of me as you. If you don't like what I write and disagree with much of what I post, don't read my posts and responses. It's that simple. Ever since I joined this forum, I have done my best to stay away from getting involved with any sort of confrontations with posters here. But of course, no matter how courteous and polite you try to be in your interactions with people, there are always a few who just love to stir up trouble.



I strongly disapprove of you attempting to ridicule and misrepresent me here on this forum. I'm generally respectful of others and rarely get pissed off, but that doesn't mean you should start inappropriately mislabeling me. You stated in your response that you've never seen a guy who boasts about chasing 300lb women. Don't be stupid. You know nothing about me, my personal life or the women I have dated in the past. If you think labeling me a troll and attempting to ridicule me by stating that I chase 300lb women will help you score cheap popularity points among other posters on this forum, you better work harder than that. But let me warn you, and I would like to call the forum moderator's attention to this as well-I will not tolerate any further personal attacks on my person from you or anyone else. If that's what you're looking for, you chose the wrong person. Don't think that I'm one to back down and be afraid of a fight. If you try to ridicule me any further or insult me or stain my character on this forum, I will hit you back hard with everything I've got. I won't tolerate that from you.



I find it rather ironic that you're using the same strategy and words of another poster who had previously labeled me a troll. Just like you, that poster just didn't want to believe that the women I feel attracted to are not overweight/obese. Both of you sit there judging me without having even seen these women. And your motives are of course clear-to take cheap shots at me and attempt to label me as a man who must be lacking in confidence, thereby chasing "300lb women." Let me just say for the last time that I'm not going to tolerate any such personal attacks now or in the future from both of you or anyone else. And if you should choose to respond to this message by trying to make fun of me or attacking me further, I'm not going to let you get away with it. I have tried for the most part to have a good relationship with most posters on this forum.


Just a few days ago, another poster labeled my writing style as similar to that of a woman. What do you guys want me to do? I'm a journalist. I'm a creative writer. My writing style is visual and descriptive. I'm someone who takes good note of his surroundings and environment. If you don't like it, don't read my posts. In addition to that, I don't expect you or anyone else to share the same taste in women as me. Keep in mind that the sort of features that men find attractive differ according to race and culture. So what you may think is unattractive may not necessarily be so to someone else. Give me a freaking break.

Frank, my brother, NEVER apologize or defend to anyone who you like or what you find attractive. It only serves to demoralize your mental acuity. This will speak succinctly to the naysayers:

SCENE THREE

The restaurant. Roma is seated alone at the booth. Lingk
is at the booth next to him. Roma is talking to him.

ROMA
...all train compartments smell
vaguely of sh!t. It gets so you
don't mind it. That's the worst
thing that I can confess. You know
how long it took me to get there?
A long time. When you die you're
going to regret the things you
don't do. You think you're queer...?
I'm going to tell you something:
we're all queer. You think that
you're a thief? So what? You get
befuddled by a middle-class
morality...? Get shut of it. Shut
it out. You cheated on your
wife...? You did it, live with it.
(pause)
You fvck little girls, so be it.
There's an absolute morality? May
be. And then what? If you think
there is, then be that thing. Bad
people go to hell? I don't think
so. If you think that, act that
way. A hell exists on earth? Yes.
I won't live in it.

Ricky says every-fvcking-thing you need to hear with that. I live these words and they've kept me in good stead. There are a couple of things about your thread which I do have issue with:

1. You want to fvck her at first sight. Going out with a woman with the intent on fvcking her (if she's not a professional slvt) is a futile endeavor. She'll know no matter how much you subterfuge the evening. She WILL know and the jig is up.

2. Don't get her all liquored up and take advantage of the situation. How will that help with your overall maturity and growth as a man?

3. Be forthright. If you live with people and don't have a car of your own, man up to it and tell her so. If she disregards you for that what kind of woman is she? A golddigging cvnt interesting in appearance rather than substance. Is that what you want to remember even if you do slip and drop your d!ck in her?

Lastly, Drum & Bass is the last one to talk about anyone being a troll. Do yourself a favor and disregard any advice he gives. It's pure speculation because it's blatantly obvious he has no life experience to pull from. Another of a myriad of sheeple who come here and clutter up threads with garbage.

Frank2500 said:

Do you guys have some suggestions on some ways I could suggest this to her without being too direct and obvious, or is the direct approach the best one in this case? I mean, I'm 29, this woman should be at least 33 or so. She ain't a kid, so I would hope she won't get offended by me being direct. The way she shakes that big ass of hers at the gym whenever she walks definitely shows that she wants someone to give her some. Anyway, I would appreciate you guys' suggestions. The risk with such dates is you definitely don't want to say anything stupid because you may have misread the woman. If you do that, everything will crash.

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If I were you, I'd try to meet up with her near her house or apartment, whichever one it is..this way in all probability there'll be a greater chance she'll invite you back to her place as opposed to if you were far from her place. I would try to steer your conversations with her(providing you're getting vibes from her) into a direction that revolves around you going back to her place..but just don't make your intentions obvious as to why you wanna go back to her place(I know, it sux, but as you know, this is the game you are forced to play in the world of women).

Obviously only steer the conversation in that direction if she hasn't already invited you back to her place. Some suggestions I'd give in order to steer the conversation that revolves around you going back with her are:

Try to get her talking about her place, her pets(if she has any), stereo, cd's, furniture, etc. etc. etc...whatever is associated with her house or apartment. But truthfully, as I'm sure you know, if a chick wants you bad enough, she will tell you to come back to her place and hang out, without you even having to steer the convo. in such a direction. It'll be that easy.

Stay strong, rock on!

How do you bed a woman on a first date?

That's like asking "How can I make a million dollars in five years?" There's no "how to" manual for something that specific.

As far as big booty girls go.....I worked with one model earlier this year who has a Vida Guerra ass. My video guy got a great shot of her ASSets and we used it in our infomercial. He described it as a "coffee table" shot. lol

relax Frank, i'm not judging you, I just find it hard to believe...so you say your not a troll, fine don't be so sensitive.

...and for my biggest fan from out of nowhere, Karma.

It's pure speculation because it's blatantly obvious he has no life experience to pull from.

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what makes you think I have no life experience to pull from ??

why are you giving me so much attention lately, who are you ??