Well, I am now 0 for 4 with the women I have met from online dating. I can get a few to meet me but then they just don't seem interested even after a seemingly pleasant date. One thing I mentioned briefly in my intro here but I think was overlooked by most is that I have a nervous eye tick, or twitch, or whatever you wanna call it.

According to my doctor is it related to tourettes, I don't blurt out cusswords like a tourettes individual would, but the eye tick is a similar neurological condition. It is not going to kill me and it doesn't make me retarded or anything, it is a relatively minor condition that only manifests itself when I am nervous or anxious, such as giving a public speech, job interview, meeting women, first dates, all the worst possible times when I could have this problem. It is not obvious but it does tend to be noticeable by people who are with me and talking to me.

It is also the reason I think I have had much of my troubles attracting women in real life. This is a big reason why I wanted to try the online dating thing, is because I can convey my personality well in writing, and I look good in my pictures. But when I meet the women they seem to lose interest and I think it may be my eye tick.

My question I guess is how much do you guys think this really effects my skills, and is it even possible for me to become a DJ, PUA or just normal attractive to women in person? If it is such a turnoff, presumably because it signals genetic inferiority/dysfunction to women, what can I do to improve my chances? Should I just state this flat out in my online profile so there are no surprises for the ladies? That way at least if they are willing to meet me I can be pretty sure they won't reject me for my eye tic.

Im not one for online dating, but, you need to make lots of approaches. That way you'll kill off your nervousness and as a result stop the 'eye tics'. Two birds in one stone!

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Man, if you can't help it, you can't help it.


I know this chick. Late 20s. She's hotter than hell, and she has the same kinda thing with her eye. It's her right eye. It's a little distracting, but she's doing fine. Lotsa friends, cool boyfriend. I like her.

But it is sometimes a little weird, because I get the feeling she's trying to send me a Morse code message while we're talking. But I don't like her less because of it. And if she wasn't seeing a friend of mine, I'd hit it.

Her being a woman might make this a whole different thing than what you face. I'm not sure. But DON'T put it in your online stuff. Why give them a reason to reject you right off the bat (and, sorry to say, some would do that.)

Just work on everything else, get your confidence up in spite of this, and trudge on.

Best of luck.

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I know this chick. Late 20s. She's hotter than hell, and she has the same kinda thing with her eye. It's her right eye. It's a little distracting, but she's doing fine. Lotsa friends, cool boyfriend. I like her.

But it is sometimes a little weird, because I get the feeling she's trying to send me a Morse code message while we're talking. But I don't like her less because of it. And if she wasn't seeing a friend of mine, I'd hit it.

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I think women tend to be much picker then men in this regard. It goes with that whole Darwinism thing where guys are much more willing to bang a wider variety with women, whereas women are more choosey and will reject a guy for even the slightest imperfection. I have thought about asking women I know, or even women who have rejected me, if this is really the reason. But I know they will most likely want to be politically correct and would not tell me if this is the case.

It can be helped. And it can be gotten rid of...


Number one, Steve, my brother...

Find out why and what exactly makes you 'nervous" and "anxious"...
Write them down on a list.

Continue reading the Book of Pook, DJ Bible, and go find info from David Deangelo, RSD, Michale W Dating Wizard, Dr. Paul Dobransky, etc sign up for their mailing list emails. There's a ton of info on those emails.
Get your crowbar out and open your wallet, and buy some stuff from David Deangelo.
Also, if you have enough finances, try out a boot camp. There are a lot of guys who are offering boot camps, they show you how it's done, and what to do.
Seeing it done has made enormous shifts of perceptions for thousands of guys just like you.

Continue to work on your Self Image
Self Esteem
Confidence
Self perceptions around women
Expectations of yourself with women
Expectation OF Women around you
Go to the gym
get a fashion/image consultant
Be more out going and social. Force yourself to get into conversations with people around you.
This is easier in familair settings, and social settings where it is more natural.

Look into meditation and stress relief techniques.

Look into Yoga.

Go to the doctor and tell him you want your Testosterone levels checked.
I don't care what he says, get it checked and get as much info as possible. You want Optimal amounts of Testosterone, not "enough" or "sufficient" for "a man of your age." It's your body, and you have a right to know what's going on, and how you can improve it if necessary.



Finaly, go here , and DO THIS:



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Watch their video INTRODUCTORY SEMINAR.

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thanks for the tips, perhaps when I can afford it time and money wise I will look into the personal coaching if that is what it takes. Motivation to build up my side business more I guess. Apparently the consensus is yes, a nervous disorder like this does mess up your game and is a turn off to chicks when you first meet them, which doesn't surprise me. Maybe if I just go through enough women one will click with my anyway. My ex girlfriend when we broke up told me I would never have a girlfriend again because no woman would possibly want me with all my imperfections and I would love to prove her wrong and shove it in her face.

I'm sorry STeven but I dont believe for a second that your eye tic has anything to do with your results. I do believe that your confidence as a result of your insecurities has everything to do with it.

My ex partner was born with tree stumps as arms. They used to call him "Little Arms". You couldnt shake his hand because he had 3 inch hands. All kidding side. His wife was a DIME (that's a 10 for all that don't know). Sure he had money but there are plenty of guys with money. What he did have was CONFIDENCE. He didn't let his PHYSICAL HANDCICAP MENTALLY HANDICAP HIM. He had TRUE CONFIDENCE and as a result of that was a true PRODUCER as well.

Steven as you think you shall be. If your eye tick is a handicap then it is. Vice-Versa. You choose your deliberating insecurites.

Let me paint a scenario of what confidence is. Picture for a minute you are running a business and netting 10 MILLION A MONTH. Really picture it. Feel it! Believe it! How do you feel now? Do you care what anybody thinks about you now? Do you feel unstoppable?! Do you feel like you can have any women you want?! How do you feel about these girls you just went out with??

That is what confidence is. This is what you are lacking. BOTTOMLINE!

You are what you think. You believe you are an 0 for 4, that is what you are.
That is all you will ever be or worse if you dont change now. Think and you will be! You can be anything in this lifetime you want, anything! Why be an 0 for 4 with a nervous eye tick.

Yes Darwin's theory is correct in the woman's mind. They want to be with the king of the castle. Be the king! Change now or live a lifetime of mediocrity at best. It's not about women , it is about you.

Be Grandiose! Have entitlement issues. Don't be the norm. Be great! You want results?????

Change your thinking.

Hey, I am working on becoming rich and famous, but it is gonna take awhile. becoming rich and famous isn't as easy as people think it is lol. Seriously, what you say is all I can do, and hopefully some woman will see the positives of what I have to offer, it is just frustrating being judged negatively on a first date for one stupid little thing, that I would not think was a big deal if women didn't think it was. That is what I feel is happening, I meet them for a first date at a nice restaurant or whatever and they are scrutinizing me for any little imperfection. And I also know that women notice, just the other day I was trying to pick up women in real life like some have suggested, and I started talking in Barnes and Noble with this chick with the intent of getting her number, and halfway through the convo she points out that I have the eye tic, and that she is a registered nurse and she told me I should go see a doctor to make sure it isn't something serious(I already know exactly what it is). So an attempted flirting/pickup ended up in her giving me medical advice instead!

sorry, I know you guys are trying to help and stuff, I just get frustrated even thinking about this. Can a guy who is handicapped like that seriously get a girfriend, let alone a hot one, without paying 300 bucks an hour?

You missed the point! STEVEN, read your post and your responses. Does that sound like a confident man?

Steven , forget about the eye twitch for a second. If you were a girl and saw your post and then mine. Which guy would you want? And why?

Answer these questions.

Everyone is entitled to a bad day of thinking. You are having a bad few months. This is who you are now. You will not succeed with this thinking unless it's changed. The battle is already lost.

Guess what! If you were CONFIDENT;you would have great results despite an eye-twitch.

Women love confidence. Don't you get it??

Your insecurities shine! The whole world can see it. You are not fooling anyone. Lose the eye twitch insecurity!

Okay Steve, 2 things you need to think about.

First, what your ex-girlfriend said is crap. She said it to hurt you and screw you up. She knows your sensitive about the eye and she stomped on thast weakness. Why are you letting HER words control your life? FUKC HER!:cuss: She had NO power over you! Ignore what she said, the rantings of a dismissed beyoch.

Secondly, is the tic really THAT bad? You make it sound like your eye is spinning like a slot-machine. it's a TIC, not a seizure! The more you worry about it, the worse it gets. Stop worrying! Hell, wear an eye patch and pretend you're a pirate! ARRRRRGGGG!

I agree confidence is great, but I would have to fake confidence right now because I simply don't have it. I feel more confident when I am successful, and less confident when I am not, I just don't know how to fake that. If you are tall and good looking without any imperfections, or filthy rich, I imagine confidence comes a lot more easily. In my case, I am thinking I need to make some life changes, work on some things I am naturally good at, make my side business into a new career that is something I am passionate about, that kind of thing. All this takes time and it still sucks being involuntarily celibate in the meantime.

Secondly, is the tic really THAT bad? You make it sound like your eye is spinning like a slot-machine. it's a TIC, not a seizure!

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I dunno, truth is I hardly notice it myself, I actually feel normal when I am talking to someone, but I know it is bad enough that other people do notice it, like that gal in the bookstore I talked to, my boss (who doesn't care but later in conversation told me she noticed it in the interview), my doctor, etc. so I know people notice the thing for whatever that is worth and it is not just in my head. If it wasn't for other people noticing I would never have noticed it.

Hell, wear an eye patch and pretend you're a pirate! ARRRRRGGGG!

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should have thought of that one on Halloween lol