“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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As usual I approached today, here they are.

1
So this morning I was walking around and I went up to Amanda saying “Hey, what’s up?” then she says “Hi”. So I start saying “You know, I don’t know what it is, but just from looking in your eyes I can that you’ve done something very naughty today”. Then she starts qualifying herself telling me how she’s a good girl and stuff. Then this other dude who’s sitting there starts telling this dumb story and I can’t even really tell what he’s saying, but Amanda starts directing her attention to him. Anyway, the bell rings and shortly after that, I put my hand around her and I ask her what she did on her weekend. She tells me nothing, but as we talk she brings up that her brothers birthday is during the weekend. But by that time I’m already talking about how I’m going to play the trumpet and when I start talking about the buzzing noise and she laughs at that. She then brings up that she plays the Tuba, but then her friend comes in and ****blocks saying “Amanda”. Then she starts moving away from my arm and talking to her friend. And that was the end of the set.
2
So I'm sitting and there are a bunch of people around and I'm just sitting. So eventually I start touching this Rebecca girl singing the "Itsy-Bitsy-Spider" constantly touching and this chick is just smiling. Eventually she tells me to do it to the other guy there and I do it. But yeah, that was that basic interaction. I talked to her later in the hallway but it was nothing but fluff.
3
So I'm in the hallway afterschool and I sit down next to this girl, put my arm around her and yeah. So we start talking and it goes kind of like this...

Me: So what are you gonna be for Halloween?
Me: Wait, let me guess a stripper?
[She's kind of shocked at that comment but goes on]
Girl: No, I'm going to be a basketball player.
Me: But isn't that what you already are?
Girl: Yeah.
Me: Well, I do wrestling, yeah we do a lot of conditioning.
Girl: You're a wrestler?
Me: Yeah.
Me: So you gonna party for Halloween?
Girl: No, I'm not that type of girl.
Me: Haha, yeah, but I could see you as being the naughty girl at the party.
Girl: What!? Are you serious?
Me: Yeah.
Girl: I'm out of here.
[And she leaves]
Wasn't too bad, hah, if anything the girl needs to learn how to take a joke. I've used the naughty thing on other girls before and most of them laughed. For this girl to get up was immature.
 
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I'm not being horrible, but these arn't approaches. They're interactions. No different from talking to the bus driver or your mother.

I could post about all the girls I've talked to today, but it wouldn't be worth it because they're just conversations, nothing more. These girls arn't attracted to you, and you're not making any effort to make them.
 

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WesCottII said:
I'm not being horrible, but these arn't approaches. They're interactions. No different from talking to the bus driver or your mother.

I could post about all the girls I've talked to today, but it wouldn't be worth it because they're just conversations, nothing more. These girls arn't attracted to you, and you're not making any effort to make them.
Yeahh thats really well put.
El, whats your purpose of making these "approaches" and posting them here?

What are your goals?
 

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WesCottII said:
I'm not being horrible, but these arn't approaches. They're interactions. No different from talking to the bus driver or your mother.

I could post about all the girls I've talked to today, but it wouldn't be worth it because they're just conversations, nothing more. These girls arn't attracted to you, and you're not making any effort to make them.
It does not matter. When you talk to a girl it is an FR. And yes, it is quite different from talking to the bus driver or my mother. Hah, let me guess, gee I don't get numbers so these aren't good interactions? Yeah, typical crap. And you seem to know a lot about whether or not these girls are attracted to me? You psychic or something? If not, then shush. First of all, a girl would not let a guy she is not comfortable put his arm around her. Secondly, the girls were laughing and obviously interested. Just because a girl doesn't say "Mmm, let me suck your d1ck" does not mean she isn't attracted, but that's apparently what you think attraction is.

Wescott's idea of a good FR:
Wescott: Hey, wuzzup baby?
Girl: Hey!
Wescott: Man, lemme touch them tits and get sexual wit u baby.
Girl: Mmm, I like that honey, let me suck your d1ck.
I don't know what magical land Wescott lives in but it's not nothing like that in real life.
 

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I think the second one was kind of creepy. First one was weird.

Not what I'd do, but if it works for you then more power to you.
 

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Alkali said:
I think the second one was kind of creepy. First one was weird.

Not what I'd do, but if it works for you then more power to you.
Yeah, so creepy she was laughing at me and didn't resist it. Honestly though, if she was really creeped out by it she would've told me to stop and that it was "annoying" or something.
 

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I wasn't there so I won't draw a conclusion. I just thought it was creepy. Third one was a disaster though. You should have complimented her in the beginning to initiate your magnetic pull before the push.
 

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Good advice on the third one man. More people should post helpful advice instead just acting like kids.
 

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Good advice on the third one man. More people should post helpful advice instead just acting like kids.
You'll notice that girls can take jokes if you build them up at first. When they know that you're in to them they can take insults in stride. Wthout that vital element, you came off as simply calling her a whroe.
 

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Double post, oops. Internet is screwing me over at the moment.
 

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lol elstud wants to fight instead of improve himself.
I'm game :p
 

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ElStud said:
It does not matter. When you talk to a girl it is an FR. And yes, it is quite different from talking to the bus driver or my mother. Hah, let me guess, gee I don't get numbers so these aren't good interactions? Yeah, typical crap. And you seem to know a lot about whether or not these girls are attracted to me? You psychic or something? If not, then shush. First of all, a girl would not let a guy she is not comfortable put his arm around her. Secondly, the girls were laughing and obviously interested. Just because a girl doesn't say "Mmm, let me suck your d1ck" does not mean she isn't attracted, but that's apparently what you think attraction is.

Wescott's idea of a good FR:


I don't know what magical land Wescott lives in but it's not nothing like that in real life.
Wow kiddo, no need to get so hyped up over it. I seem to have touched a nerve. Bit insecure are ya?

I never qualified your interactions into good/bad, I said they pointless posting them, every guy here must talk to a woman on a daily basis, and get them "laughing", but again it might be the lollipop lady, and it don't mean she's interested, nor do they feel required to post about it.

I don't like the way you equate a girl laughing with "obvious" interest. Girls laugh all the time. They laugh when they're nervous, they laugh when someone tries to approach them with their friends and they're having an inside joke with the rest of the girls, it doesn't mean she's about to jump your bones, and even if by some miracle she did, you're getting nowhere nearer it by not asking for dates/numbers, whatever.

P.s, I like you trying to be funny with the FR, but it didn't come off.
 

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WesCottII said:
Wow kiddo, no need to get so hyped up over it. I seem to have touched a nerve. Bit insecure are ya?

I never qualified your interactions into good/bad, I said they pointless posting them, every guy here must talk to a woman on a daily basis, and get them "laughing", but again it might be the lollipop lady, and it don't mean she's interested, nor do they feel required to post about it.

I don't like the way you equate a girl laughing with "obvious" interest. Girls laugh all the time. They laugh when they're nervous, they laugh when someone tries to approach them with their friends and they're having an inside joke with the rest of the girls, it doesn't mean she's about to jump your bones, and even if by some miracle she did, you're getting nowhere nearer it by not asking for dates/numbers, whatever.

P.s, I like you trying to be funny with the FR, but it didn't come off.
Amen, it's what most of us have been trying to get across to ElStud but he consistently ignores this message.
 

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I ignore someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. You're basically saying girls that are interested clearly aren't. And really you can't tell interests just from looking at an FR. Your philosophy is "words, words, words" people like you have never heard of the words "SUB COMMUNICATION". Besides if girls are laughing, that means they're somewhat interested.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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ElStud said:
I ignore someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. You're basically saying girls that are interested clearly aren't. And really you can't tell interests just from looking at an FR. Your philosophy is "words, words, words" people like you have never heard of the words "SUB COMMUNICATION". Besides if girls are laughing, that means they're somewhat interested.
Then what's the point of posting FRs if all you can present is WORDS WORDS WORDS?! I swear people need to use their brains more often.

And people can assume what has went on within an interaction just by looking at the results. How do people do this? From years of experience from their own experience with women. They weren't there to witness it, but just by looking at what you're saying, how the women are reacting to them, it's safe to assume these things have went on from their own personal experience. And since humans scientifically are generally prone to making the same decisions and such, their assumptions can't possibly be far off.
 

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ElStud said:
I ignore someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. You're basically saying girls that are interested clearly aren't. And really you can't tell interests just from looking at an FR. Your philosophy is "words, words, words" people like you have never heard of the words "SUB COMMUNICATION". Besides if girls are laughing, that means they're somewhat interested.
No. It means you're funny. Funny does not, on it's own, equal attraction or interest.

If we can't tell from a FR (I call it that for want of a better term), then why post it? Some ego boosting excersize for yourself? I'm not here to make you feel good for idle chit chat to a girl. Any fool can go and put his arm around a girl and have her not pull away, hell, I'm sure the ugliest guy in town could. When you've actually done ANYTHING with a girl, and not sexual, maybe even a date, or a phone number, then, and only then can you start waxing lyrical about "other guys who don't know what they're talking about" and delivering a sermon on what "works".

I don't know wether you're a religious kid Elstud, I'm not, but if I was, and I was you, I'd be looking down at my ignore list that contained alot of people, and even I'd see that the good lord was trying to send me a message. So many people cannot be wrong about you, and your "interactions".
 

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No. It means you're funny. Funny does not, on it's own, equal attraction or interest.
That actually is an excellent point. Before when I was a hardcore AFC, there was this one gorgeous babe that I always wanted to get at. I actually made her laugh A LOT. However, in spite of my jokes and ways of making her laugh, she just plain wasn't digging me.
 

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ElStud said:
I ignore someone who doesn't know what he's talking about. You're basically saying girls that are interested clearly aren't. And really you can't tell interests just from looking at an FR. Your philosophy is "words, words, words" people like you have never heard of the words "SUB COMMUNICATION". Besides if girls are laughing, that means they're somewhat interested.
How many of your approaches have ended with the girl saying that want to meet up/talk with you again?

None. Enough said.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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