Okay here's the story: There is a very sexy HB7.5 at my work. This chick is just stacked, blonde hair, bluish/green eyes, nice big rack, great @ss along with a pretty face, she's in her late 20's or early 30's and I'm 27, but I have a baby-face and EVERYONE thinks I'm 22. She would easily be an 8 in my book, but she's pretty short. Soon after she started working here I noticed that she would make very strong EC with me when she walked past my office. At first I didn't think anything of it, but when she repeatedly did it, I knew she was attracted to me.

I have very good rapport with the women in my office, I'm pretty much known as the office flirt. There have been 3 women in the office who have liked me since I started here (Feburary) and one of them tried to make out with me at the bar when she was there.

A few weeks later she came into my office to talk to my manager. On her way out she stopped by my desk and goes "so what do you do here??" I replied back, flirted, teased, C/F the whole bit. She was giggling and smiling, so the feedback was positive for a first conversation. A few weeks after this, I found out that she was married!! To be honest I was a little shocked, because I had seen the way she acts at the bar and she definitely has some AW characteristics (surprise surprise, don't they all nowdays..haha)

After I found out that she was married, I didn't make as much EC with her, even when she was looking. I pretty much figured there wasn't any point now. However, one day when we were all getting ready to go to the bar after work, she just walked up to me and goes "Your name's PIMP right??" Its important to note that up until this point (which was a couple months) she had never addressed me by name, she would just start talking.

Fast forward a few more weeks and I figure I'll just talk to her when I see her. I start talking to her a little bit more, help her out with a few work related things when my boss wasn't available and I notice that she starts walking by more often. Now she starts grabbing my arm when I make her laugh, hitting me on my chest when I make fun of her etc.

So last Friday me and my manager are working in our office and she walks in to ask him a question. On her way out she stops by my desk and goes "mmmm, something smells sooo good!" I point to my protein drink and she starts talking to me about working out. She ends up sitting down in the chair close by me and tells me how she bought this diet system and it doesn't really work etc. I tell her the basic $hit about eating right and working out and then she goes "that's the problem, I hate working out!!" "but your hard-core, I mean you look...you look....hardcore!!" LOL (the byatch wouldn't just say I look good) I tell her So then she goes "so which gym do you work out at??" I tell her and she goes "where's that??" I tell her and she responded by saying "Although I hate working out, I think if I had a partner, then I'd be more likely to stick with it."

She then gets up at tells me she wants me to stop by her cube when I get a chance to check out the supplements she recently bought. I told her I'd stop by when I got a chance. I stopped by her cube about an hour and half later, but she was already gone.

I am getting a new job and will be leaving my current work place in 2 weeks. So dipping my pen in the company ink will not be a concern at all. I realize many of you will probably flame me and say I shouldn't do anything and I most likely won't, but I was more curious to know if any of you have ever been in a situation like this and how it played out?


Your thoughts are welcome



PIMP

My thoughts are don't buy your bread and meat at the same store.

She could just be AWing and calling your bluff or....I guess it doesn't matter because she's married right? The normal things you'd do in situations like these (escalate) aren't the same because you don't know what's going on in her personal life, but you DO know she's married. It could simply turn out to be a waste of time altogether.

Tazman said:

...but you DO know she's married. It could simply turn out to be a waste of time altogether.

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Somewhere she has a husband who ( foolishly ) thinks that he is married to a faithful wife. He is probably busting his a$$ out there trying to pay for HER endless needs.. Before you 'do' her, give him a thought.
Even AFCs deserve some respect . Put yourself in his place.

I think its unethical to go after chics that are hooked up, but to each his own...I've seen so much infidelity in my time, that it doesn't even bother me anymore.

I do however, stand by my value.

"All is fair in love and war"

That said, keep a couple of things in mind:

1) There is a slight chance that a jealous husband will catch up with you

2) She very well could be toying with you. Don't become an "intimacy surrogate". She might continue to fukk the hubby and simply sap some validation from you. Losing proposition, I've been there.

Its never going to be good advise to tell someone to cheat with a married man or woman. I'd go so far as to consider that general statement, fact and not even open to debate.

Might it be fun? Yeah sure; it could be immensely fun, in fact. Might you get away with it? Possibly. Might everything just go perfectly smooth and this not create drama in your life? Possible. Does this change what I said in the outset? No.

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By the way, don't read too much into what's happened so far. Flirting at work (what you described) is commonplace. It rarely leads to actual s*x, even if both are willing.

Are you black or white? Just curious.

I knew a guy who was fooling around someone's wife. The husband put a bullet into him, and is now serving life in prison. I think you can guess what happened to the cuckolder.

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Azanon wrote:

"By the way, don't read too much into what's happened so far. Flirting at work (what you described) is commonplace. It rarely leads to actual s*x, even if both are willing."

HAHAHA!!!!!! I dunno where YOU'VE been working, but lemme tell you, people are hooking up at/through work ALL THE TIME. This stuff goes on everywhere, you just have to open your eyes to see it. It's just not broadcast over the PA.

I'm not saying that this chick is gonna be screwing the OP, but to say that this stuff is "rare" is simply to choose to be blind.

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Tazman: Initially I figured she was just AWing but when she basically said she wants me to workout with her, I figured there might be some merit behind her words. However, your right it could end up being a total waste of time as far as hooking up with her goes. As I said from the get go, I'm not going to escalate or pursue it, but damn its tempting.

jophil28: I hear you buddy. I've never been in a situation like this, but I have a rather jaded view of women from all the AW's and crazy chicks I've met over the past few years, I've followed your posts, I know you know what I mean. Although I don't have any proof I've had a feeling since day one that she cheats on her husband, based on a few things she's done in my presence.

Fuglydude: Ain't that the truth! Seems like they don't make women like they use to. Like I said, I will NOT escalate or pursue this, but to say I don't want to would be a straight up lie.

STR8UP: What's going on bro!! I enjoyed your photo album. Also, excellent post on most women not being the one. Its funny, I told my good friend a few months ago that I believe 95% of women are AW's, who are only good for one thing, then I read your post and felt like you read my mind..lol

About my situation, there's absolutely zero chance of me becoming an "intimacy surrogate" to her, I never even start conversations with her, and sometimes there are a couple days that go by when I don't even see her. I have a lot of similar views as you, and my initial thought was "well if this byatch wants to fuvk, then I'm game, because if I don't do it, she'll offer her goods to someone else." Maybe its because I'm naive, maybe its because I don't really trust women, but I don't think I'd feel bad about fuvking her as far as her husband's is concerned. And that's not because I don't have morals or I don't care, its simply because I don't really trust women in LTR's. However, with that said I'm not going to push any buttons to egg this along.

Azanon: I'll agree that flirting at work is pretty common, maybe even going out for drinks with co-workers every once in a while. But a women asking you to work out with her on a regular basis, one-on-one is NOT common AT ALL! As the others have said, she very well could be AWing to validate her self-worth, but she also could be testing to find out who's game and who's not.


Chris30: LOL....don't know where you got the impression I was either. I'm actually half Persian and half Italian.


MatureDJ: That's crazy and I get your point, you never know who your dealing with, but as I said I HIGHLY doubt anything will come from this, but it will be interesting to see what happens.


Aliasguy: I agree bro, there is a chick at my work who was boning a dude in another department for 4 months before they actually became bf/gf and let everyone in the office know. There's another girl at my work who hooked up with another guy in my office a few times and I'm pretty sure they still mess around here and there. It happens ALL THE TIME!! I know another girl who is having an affair with her manager, she's been fuvking him for over 6 months and his wife doesn't have a clue. I don't have any proof, but I'd say about 20-30% of co-workers hook up with each other based on my work history.




PIMP

MY view- it ain't morally OK to screw another man's wife unless they are legally separated. There is much written about the dearth of "Quality women" on this board. We are quick to condemn them for their lack of ethics and morals. We men need to hold ourselves to at least the same standards lest we become hypocrites,. We need to walk our talk gentlemen, otherwise
we have no business busting on them.

Secondly it is just unwise to have sex with a women with the possible consequence of death by gunshot.

Heh heh, damn my idea of Pimp-cicle as an ultra cool black dude has been shattered.

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-HAHAHA!!!!!! I dunno where YOU'VE been working, but lemme tell you, people are hooking up at/through work ALL THE TIME. This stuff goes on everywhere, you just have to open your eyes to see it. It's just not broadcast over the PA.

I'm not saying that this chick is gonna be screwing the OP, but to say that this stuff is "rare" is simply to choose to be blind.

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You completely missed my point.

Rare..... in relation to the amount of flirting that goes on. Practically everyone flirts at work, and what he mentioned that happened, was nothing more than flirting. I am relatively sure (that's sarcasm, btw... ) that not everyone is screwing everyone else at work.

I get genuine flirting from every attractive girl I know at work, and (though I'm married), I think I'm as attractive as most men. That being said, could I "sex" every one of these women? Not even close.

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MY view- it ain't morally OK to screw another man's wife unless they are legally separated. There is much written about the dearth of "Quality women" on this board. We are quick to condemn them for their lack of ethics and morals. We men need to hold ourselves to at least the same standards lest we become hypocrites,. We need to walk our talk gentlemen, otherwise
we have no business busting on them.

Secondly it is just unwise to have sex with a women with the possible consequence of death by gunshot.

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In an ideal world, if every man had enough strength to hold to his values, and respect each other's values, there would be very little cheating and sneaking around in general.

For the people that say "go for it", or "all's fair in love and war", just remember that there's a guy on the receiving end that you are hurting. Wreck a marriage for a little p*ssy? What a weak selfish thing to do, IMO.

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2) She very well could be toying with you. Don't become an "intimacy surrogate". She might continue to fukk the hubby and simply sap some validation from you. Losing proposition, I've been there.

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Just out of curiosity, I'd be interested to let him test her to see how far she would go. See if she's serious or just AWing?

I don't advocate actually doing anything with her, but it would be an interesting experiment just to test this hizzo.

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In an ideal world, if every man had enough strength to hold to his values, and respect each other's values, there would be very little cheating and sneaking around in general.

For the people that say "go for it", or "all's fair in love and war", just remember that there's a guy on the receiving end that you are hurting. Wreck a marriage for a little p*ssy? What a weak selfish thing to do, IMO.

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This one has been debated here before. On on hand, you have the "All's fair.." crowd - "she's gonna cheat with someone,why not me?" - "the husband is weak and not satisfying her nor being a man", etc.

On the other hand, we have sentiments like Mr.P above.

From what I've read here, it appears that both sides have valid points. All the "facts" are laid out, and each must choose which has the greater weight.

Someone once wrote disdainingly that philosophy is the pursuit and manipulation of bad reasons in support of what you already believe for OTHER bad reasons.

Probably applies to the arguments on this point. Both sides.

(In full disclosure, I've been on both ends of this kinda thing before. My wife cheated. I've been with married women.)

I'm probably rationalizing, but given the f*cked-up nature of marriage today, I say what the hell - screw her if you can.

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Mr.Positive said:

In an ideal world, if every man had enough strength to hold to his values, and respect each other's values, there would be very little cheating and sneaking around in general.

For the people that say "go for it", or "all's fair in love and war", just remember that there's a guy on the receiving end that you are hurting. Wreck a marriage for a little p*ssy? What a weak selfish thing to do, IMO.

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To look at things dynamically, I think one has to realize that the answer to all the world's problems just aren't as simple as they may sometimes seem on the surface.

What hurts "the other spouse" more; cheating and keeping it unknown, or divorcing him/her because one's moral code doesn't even allow cheating as an option? I'm going to take a real risk here and choose the divorce. If you say there's a third option; stay married and don't cheat, that's possibly leaving something out. What could be left out is said person's discontent and perpectual unhappiness. Aren't we all entitled to happiness? I think so.

Some decisions include a ****tail of positives and negatives. You mentioned "getting pvssy for possibly wreaking a marriage". The pvssy is a definite (if the cheating indeed happens), the potential for a wrecked marriage is probably really low (would require 1. getting caught and 2. that resulting in a divorce).

Bottom line, I think one can reject off-the-cuff, quick and dirty solutions to these kinds of questions as overly simplistic and just not recognizing that its often far more complicated, and case-by-case. Now I don't feel I'm contradicting my general advise that cheating is usually a bad idea. What I'm saying is that the option is at least on the table because it is a solution to the problem. Maybe its not a very good solution, but do the other solutions look wonderful? (divorce, or perpectual discontent). In this specific case, i'm taking about the woman. The woman might have to be choosing 1. divorce 2. overall discontentment or.......... 3. the occasional fling.

I respect your opinion, but you recognized "the ideal world", yourself, in your first statement as fictional. So why offer "ideal answers" that promise to solve the problem, but usually do not.

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What hurts "the other spouse" more; cheating and keeping it unknown, or divorcing him/her because one's moral code doesn't even allow cheating as an option? I'm going to take a real risk here and choose the divorce. If you say there's a third option; stay married and don't cheat, that's possibly leaving something out. What could be left out is said person's discontent and perpectual unhappiness. Aren't we all entitled to happiness? I think so.

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I guess I don't think of cheating as an 'option'. All cheating does is side step the real issues going on, for instant gratification. We all want our problems fixed now, instantly, without having to put forth any effort.

If a marriage is having issues, they need to be addressed directly. That may require working hard at it, and sadly, a lot of people opt for the easy out...cheating, for instant relief, or divorce to permanently 'give up'.

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To look at things dynamically, I think one has to realize that the answer to all the world's problems just aren't as simple as they may sometimes seem on the surface.

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Furthermore, adding dynamics to this situation only just confuses things.

This is really an either/or, ie black/white, situation. Either this woman cheats on her husband, or she doesn't..either the OP pursues a married woman, or he doesn't.

It's all about the actions that take place, the actions that, in itself, determine what takes place.

You can argu 'dynamics' all day long, but that sounds like what women do to justify their actions.

But, do whatever you need to do to sleep easy at night I guess. For me though, I'll hold myself accountable for what actions I take in life.