I guess this comes with the territory of having female friends, but I have taken a couple of steps back and I can see that I was deluding myself with the AW.

To sum it up- Rollo is right on. True sexual attraction is not a negotiation and it's not a game. If it's a game (beyond normal ASD) then you are being c0ckteased.

I made the mistake of thinking that this woman was escalating things with me, when in fact it was nothing more than her becoming desperate to maintain my attention.

The turning point was when she grabbed my d!ck at the club a few weeks ago. I took that as her stepping it up and initiating sexual contact. But in retrospect that was the night that she brought along the Russian girl. Now I know that her grabbing my d!ck was nothing more than a desperate act to ensure that I wasn't going to pay too much attention to another woman who was obviously vibing me.

I have always known she was an AW. That's why I never pursued dating her and why I vowed never to put any effort into fukking her. Now that I see behind her game and she has made such a desperate attempt to keep all eyes on her, we can add "c0cktease" to her title.

For anyone who is wondering.....no, she did not turn me down for sex. I was thinking about throwing down at the party we went to last night, but after thinking it over beforehand I realized that she really IS a waste of time. Why would I even entertain the idea of trying to have sex with a 37 yr old c0cktease, when there are a couple dozen hot twentysomething women around?

I started thinking about how she would always play kissy face and then cut out early. A woman who truly wants to have sex with you would NOT do that. She's not going to grab your d!ck and then say "I'm tired, see you later".

There is definitely ZERO emotional attachment with this chick, and it's not like I'm going to stop being friends with her or anything, so I guess Im just gonna have to call her out on it when she tries to play kissy face or do the sleepover thing or whatever.

So you're going to put a stop to her grabbing your d!ck from now on then?

Anyway I'm sure you know the more you pull away from one of these that is interested in you the more they will want you or rather attention from you.

Regardless good decision.

This chick doesn't deserve an ounce of your effort outside of friendship if you even want to maintain that.

Man, I hate being right all the time.

KontrollerX said:

So you're going to put a stop to her grabbing your d!ck from now on then?

Anyway I'm sure you know the more you pull away from one of these that is interested in you the more they will want you or rather attention from you.

Regardless good decision.

This chick doesn't deserve an ounce of your effort outside of friendship if you even want to maintain that.

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Yea, she's gonna have to understand that I'm not going to let a woman go that far without taking it all the way.

Kissing? I kiss a lot of chicks and I don't expect it to lead to anything more most of the time. But touching the package? I don't care if it's through clothing or not......that's a pretty bold and overtly sexual gesture. I've only had a handful of women do that to me and I'm pretty sure I ended up fukking all of them (with the exception of a random club chick).

It's kind of like a chick sleeping in your bed naked. If she NAKED, it's pretty much a given that you're gonna be fukking her. If she strips down and gets under the sheets and won't let you touch her there's a problem which would be easily solved by making her get dressed and showing her the couch (or better yet the door).

She even brings it up (her grabbing my d!ck) pretty much every time I have seen her since. Next time she says something about it maybe I should tell her it's off limits cause we are friends and friends don't do that kind of stuff :nono:

And to be honest with you she's been getting on my nerves a little lately, whether it's her b!tchy mood or her incessantly trying to get me to talk my parents into letting her give them a sales pitch.

Rollo Tomassi said:

Man, I hate being right all the time.

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I doubt that more than the moon landing!

When you're right, you're right.

Women after 30 are like those little scraps of plastic wrap that get a static charge and keep sticking to you no matter what. Getting WITH them is the easy part.

Str8up what did the AW do that night specifically that proved she was jsut a AW c0cktease.?You seem to say you just concluded that after hanging out with her again.

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Str8up what did the AW do that night specifically that proved she was jsut a AW c0cktease.?You seem to say you just concluded that after hanging out with her again.

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Nothing at all.

I just started thinking about the discussion on the other thread and how Rollo did a 180 after he got a few more details (such as the fact that she always cuts out early).

It made me take a step back and ask myself if I was obeying the cardinal rule "Pay attention to womens actions, not their words".

The confusing part was my mistaking her intentions because of her willingness to kiss me in a more than friendly manner and her grabbing my d!ck. I thought about the way it went down with her friend getting some attention from me and her cutting out early (again) and I realized that it was simply an attempt to keep the attention focused on her.

Could I fukk her? Probably. But I'm going back to my original stance.....if i do it's going to be with ZERO effort on my part. Matter of fact I'm gonna one up it by cutting off the kissing and the touching and crap. That's what led me down the wrong path.

It will be interesting to see how she reacts when I pull away.

str8up-----

I'm a complete noobie here (except for reading/lurking for 6 months --- and a long life of AFCdom, with a renaissance over the last 6 years), and maybe i don't know sh*t, but I suspect that we're gonna hear a lot more about all this cr*p with this woman until you finally just f**k her (or she blows you off.)

Please, get it over with and nail her so you can just move on. Too much blah, blah, blah 'bout this old hag who's got you writing us about every week.

Really. I know you don't know me, and nobody else here does either, but ENOUGH --- f**k her or drop her or stop talking about her. You have all these other chicks. What's the deal?

Hope this isn't "too much," and I like your posts, and I usually agree with what you write-------BUT -------f**k her, or drop her, or shut up about her.

Please.

I see Str8. Well I alias you should **** her, or just drop her but I don't see anything wrong with talking about till you do as long as you don't get attached to any outcome with her.

aliasguy said:

str8up-----

I'm a complete noobie here (except for reading/lurking for 6 months --- and a long life of AFCdom, with a renaissance over the last 6 years), and maybe i don't know sh*t, but I suspect that we're gonna hear a lot more about all this cr*p with this woman until you finally just f**k her (or she blows you off.)

Please, get it over with and nail her so you can just move on. Too much blah, blah, blah 'bout this old hag who's got you writing us about every week.

Really. I know you don't know me, and nobody else here does either, but ENOUGH --- f**k her or drop her or stop talking about her. You have all these other chicks. What's the deal?

Hope this isn't "too much," and I like your posts, and I usually agree with what you write-------BUT -------f**k her, or drop her, or shut up about her.

Please.

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hahahahaha! this noob hit it on the head. i agree! Just do her already!

Or have fun with her the way she keeps having fun with you.

I remember in highschool I bribed this guy to give me rides to school. I told him I'd give him $5 once a week - bad deal but I knew he liked me, so the money was just so he could keep his self respect. Well, he got no action and no money. So when he would pick me up, he started to have these songs playing. "B!tch better have my money", and sh!t like that.

It was funny as hell. I gave him props, but not out loud. I just acted like I wasn't catching on. But that sh!t WAS funny. Then he stopped picking me up at all.

Iqqi I've been thinking you were an AW and exemplifying the type of girl any self respecting DJ should avoid. That's a new red flag for me: any girl that frequents Men's forums. :kick:

iqqi once again mocing ketostix in whiny BOYS ONLY club voice-over said:

any self respecting DJ

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lol! Do you have a cute little DJ badge that you wear on your shirt, too? Or a cute little membership certificate that fits convienently in your wallet?

My gosh. Stop taking this site and its "rules" so seriously! Its like, life or death, for some of you!

I don't know, for some reason I like the IQ...she seems like she has a cool sense of humor to me.

I'd do her. haha

Well replace the word "DJ" with "man". You take being annoying and irritating too seriously!

^^^ So since your last comment had absolutely nothing to do with this thread or even my comment... your point was basically that there is a difference between you and me being here on this forum... and that difference is that you are boy, and I am girl?

Is that right?

iqqi said:

^^^ So since your last comment had absolutely nothing to do with this thread or even my comment... your point was basically that there is a difference between you and me being here on this forum... and that difference is that you are boy, and I am girl?

Is that right?

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Unbelievable ..I rest my case.

ketostix said:

Unbelievable ..I rest my case.

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Good. Get off my nuts! :kick: back at you, playerrrr.

iqqi said:

Good. Get off my nuts!

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I rest MY case, you farm fairy.

I suppose if you are clueless about women fain being one on an internet MENS forum.

Str8up, if the dumb b*tch really wanted to f*ck you, you would've f*cked her a long time ago. It's pretty obvious she doesn't wanna f*ck you, because if she did, you would've jumped on that by now..so stop saying you could "probably" f*ck her if you wanted to, because you can't(no flame). Stop making excuses as to why you haven't slept with her. If she was into you, you would've made it a point to hit it by now; you know it, I know it. Like I said a few weeks ago, if you were truly confident she wanted to sleep with you, you would've went for it already. You're obviously not confident, so you've never made the attempt. That's what's happening. I don't know why I'm the only one here seeing this. ?? Maybe I'm missing something.