As many of you probably know, I really don't much care for older women. They have all the same issues, and the younger ones are hotter

Something came to me last night, nothing groundbreaking, but I realized that the reason I end up meeting so many younger women is because I know ONE.

Actually I know quite a few more than that, but it all comes down to the fact that if you know just ONE younger woman who likes you, it's sooooo easy to meet a dozen more. You know a dozen, it's easy to meet a hundred.

When I say "likes you" it doesn't necessarily mean that she wants to jump your bones. If there's a little spark it's actually great, because it's infectious. We all know how competitive women can be.

But even just having ONE who thinks of you as a peer as opposed to the dreaded "creepy old guy" is pure gold.

I realized this last night when I was out with a group of friends. A guy I know was there, and he brought some of his friends who I had met in the past. One of the guy's g/f's i recently found out just turned 21. We met up with her and some of her friends at a bar and then went back to my place after.

So we're all out on my balcony chatting, all except for one girl who passed out. Talking to the other girls I find out that the girl who is passed out....it's her 21st birthday, and one of the other girls had just turned 21. Add a couple more to my network of younger chicks.

Now I'm not really into dating 21 yr olds (although I never say never), but just having a few of these younger women around is invaluable to attracting women of all ages. Nothing riles up chicks more than knowing you have access to a plethora of young beauties.

And all in all I think it's good for the soul. It keeps you young. If I were to be hanging with all women my age i wouldn't have nearly as much fun and I would probably look 10 years older

STR8UP said:

having a few of these younger women around is invaluable to attracting women of all ages. Nothing riles up chicks more than knowing you have access to a plethora of young beauties.

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This is right on. A group of my friends (including a few women my age, early 30s) recently met up with this 23yo girl I've been seeing (along with a bunch of girls her age). The comments I heard afterwards from the women my age were priceless. "Look at PE and his harem of young girls" etc. etc. It's almost like they can't help but let the green-eyed monster out in these situations.

Nefty said:

Incongruence in such a situation is inevitable, and like it or not, you will eventually become the "creepy old guy" and will eventually look ridiculous trying to cling to a state of suspended youth with younger chicks. Besides, younger ones may "look hotter," but few are intellectually stimulating enough to older guys.

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Don't see too many people calling Hugh Hefner the "creepy old guy". And, over the hill, bitter women in their 30s and 40s don't count. Are you telling us that men want intellectual stimulation more than a hot, young body. LOL.

A coed will tend to be intellectual. There is nothing more interesting to me than an attractive coed.

20 year old guy with 18yr girl = normal

25 year old guy with 18 yr girl = hmmm

30 year old guy with 18 yr girl = wierd

40 year old guy with 18 yr girl = creepy

50+ year old guy with 18 yr girl = he's DA MAN!

Nefty said:

Incongruence in such a situation is inevitable, and like it or not, you will eventually become the "creepy old guy" and will eventually look ridiculous trying to cling to a state of suspended youth with younger chicks. Besides, younger ones may "look hotter," but few are intellectually stimulating enough to older guys.

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Are you a 35 year old woman?

Cause when you claim that younger women aren't "intellectually stimulating" to older guys you sound like an older woman.

I get plenty of ALL kinds of stimulation from younger women.

And I don't necessarily plan on being 60 years old barhopping with 20 somethings, but who's to say how old is too old?

Your statement reeks of typical AFC conditioning.

One of the girls from last night was trying to guess my age. I think she started at 26. Stay in decent shape and don't fall into this "age appropriateness" bullsh!t and you can fit in with the younger crowd for a long time.

joekerr31 said:

20 year old guy with 18yr girl = normal

25 year old guy with 18 yr girl = hmmm

30 year old guy with 18 yr girl = wierd

40 year old guy with 18 yr girl = creepy

50+ year old guy with 18 yr girl = he's DA MAN!

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What about a 30-something year old guy with a 21-26 year old girl?

MatureDJ said:

A coed will tend to be intellectual. There is nothing more interesting to me than an attractive coed.

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I agree.

I wasn't trying to turn this into an older vs. younger debate, but some guys still don't have a clue what they are talking about when they say that older women are smarter or any variation thereof.

Now there is an issue that is real, and that is the fact that a younger woman doesn't have the same perspective on life that you do. She's more likely to be idealistic and naive to a lot of things. But that doesn't mean you can't have an interesting intelligent convo with a girl that age, nor does it mean that you can't connect in a way that isn't sexual.

For the record.....I try to avoid getting involved with women in their very early 20's. I prefer mid 20's. But the best relationship i ever had was with a 21 yr old when I was 31. Fun fun fun.

ketostix said:

What about a 30-something year old guy with a 21-26 year old girl?

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21 is young in my opinion.

26 is fine.

most women are air heads until they hit about 25 i find.

btw, its just my opinion, there are no real set rulesw for this stuff.

joekerr31 said:

21 is young in my opinion.

26 is fine.

most women are air heads until they hit about 25 i find.

btw, its just my opinion, there are no real set rulesw for this stuff.

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I wouldn't say that most women are "airheads" before 25, but I do know that most people go through a big change in the way they see things around the age of 24.

That's why i think for me 25-27 is ideal.

there are no real set rules for this stuff.

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I totally agree and that's why I don't let others especially women try to place their rules on me.

Oh yeah, Str8up I think this post was excellent advice on how to best hangout with 21 year olds and up.

By the way all this creepy talk that's recently permenated most people's vocabulary reminds me of that one Seinfeld episode (you can learn a lot from that show lol):

Jerry's Uncle Leo thinks everyone that does something he doesn't like is automatically an "anti-semite".

The cook undercooks his hamburger=Anti-semite!
His GF laughs at Jewish jokes=Anti-semite!

Haha, It's just a negative label that typically has no meaning and is often misplaced.

30 year old guy with 18 yr girl = wierd

40 year old guy with 18 yr girl = creepy

50+ year old guy with 18 yr girl = he's DA MAN!

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:crackup: :crackup: :crackup:

joekerr31 said:

21 is young in my opinion.

26 is fine.

most women are air heads until they hit about 25 i find.

btw, its just my opinion, there are no real set rulesw for this stuff.

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I'm going to have to agree with joekerr. I'm 31 and have been with a couple 21 yo's and 22 yo's in the past year. You know what? I'm over it. They really are air heads and truly are good for nothing more than a drunk lay. We really are at different phases in life and have next to nothing in common and it gets a little annoying at times..

I can only take girls over 25 seriously...

larry king asked kid rock a couple nights ago if he thought women were with him because he was kid rock or because of who he was as a person.

kid rock laughed and said "of course its because im kid rock. hey, listen, i'm not with them because their ugly."

guys like kid rock and hef know the score, and so do the women with them.

believe it or not, there are TONS of women more than happy to be some guys f*ck toy to be around the glitz and glamor of success.

btw, any time a chic is busting on you about how men are dogs, just subtly drop 'you know what's always confused me? what is it that all those women see in hef? i mean the guys 200 years old. surely they can't be attracted to him? but at the same time, if they aren't then that means women willing to wh*re themselves out to guys just because they are famous? its all so confusing. its depressing to think that women would do that."

STR8UP said:

Are you a 35 year old woman?

Cause when you claim that younger women aren't "intellectually stimulating" to older guys you sound like an older woman.

I get plenty of ALL kinds of stimulation from younger women.

And I don't necessarily plan on being 60 years old barhopping with 20 somethings, but who's to say how old is too old?

Your statement reeks of typical AFC conditioning.

One of the girls from last night was trying to guess my age. I think she started at 26. Stay in decent shape and don't fall into this "age appropriateness" bullsh!t and you can fit in with the younger crowd for a long time.

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I don't think you need to worry about being the creepy old guy as he says. My boss is going on 36 and he hangs out with me and my friends all the time. He is cool, down to earth and he acts like us. My friends who are girls and are in their early 20s sometimes think he is only a little bit older than me. He gives off the same vibe you say you do.

I think some guys in their early to mid-30s come off as creepy in certain situations, like at bars when they're stalking college-aged girls and trying to buy them drinks. Being horribly out of shape and poorly dressed doesn't help them, either.

MikeYikes122 said:

I don't think you need to worry about being the creepy old guy as he says. My boss is going on 36 and he hangs out with me and my friends all the time. He is cool, down to earth and he acts like us. My friends who are girls and are in their early 20s sometimes think he is only a little bit older than me. He gives off the same vibe you say you do.

I think some guys in their early to mid-30s come off as creepy in certain situations, like at bars when they're stalking college-aged girls and trying to buy them drinks. Being horribly out of shape and poorly dressed doesn't help them, either.

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Maybe I'm blessed, or maybe I'm delusional, but the age that I appear to be (maybe late 20's) has had absolutely no bearing on my ability to get with younger women.

Now I won't deny that at least some of my success with attracting younger women comes from the perception of status. Not the same level as the Hef example but along the same lines.

I'll be 36 in a few weeks and to me it doesn't seem the slightest bit odd or uncomfortable to mingle with women who are 15 years younger than I am.

It comes down to several things that can work in your favor:

1) Appearance. The way you dress, the way you carry yourself, and the way you take CARE of yourself.
2) Confidence. If you think of yourself as a dirty old man, so will younger women.
3) Attitude. If you "act your age" according to outdated standards, then people are going to perceive you as old.
4) Success/status/wealth. A man of means is timeless. If you have what women want, you are an infinitely valuable commodity.

STR8UP writes the truth here, though you don't necessarily have to have $$.

In fact, if you're a bit older, look youthful, present and carry yourself well, and don't have a lot of money, you'll probably have better options with younger women, who tend to be less concerned about the men they're with having money than do older (late 30s to 50ish) women -- at least those who have kept up their appearance to a reasonable degree, and have any kind of options of their own.

MrLuvr said:

Don't see too many people calling Hugh Hefner the "creepy old guy". And, over the hill, bitter women in their 30s and 40s don't count. Are you telling us that men want intellectual stimulation more than a hot, young body. LOL.

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He is a "creepy old guy", let's call a spade a spade.

Nefty said:

Incongruence in such a situation is inevitable, and like it or not, you will eventually become the "creepy old guy" and will eventually look ridiculous trying to cling to a state of suspended youth with younger chicks. Besides, younger ones may "look hotter," but few are intellectually stimulating enough to older guys.

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OH! As though older women are intellectually stimulating!!

WTF!?

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For those fools who want an intellectually stimulating woman - find a scientist!!! You are a fool because you are deceiving yourself!!! Men do not wake up and look for, "An intellectual woman" - they look for a woman that pleases their eyes! Attraction is what ignites your pursuit --- not her intellect! Would you pursue a 600 pound ragged intellectual??? No? Then shut up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beauty, in a woman, is closely tied to youth!!!