I did a little experiment in the past two days. You guys know those common T-shirts sold all over on which it is written "FBI" or "Security" or "Police," etc. I have one of those, a black T-shirt on which it is printed in bold "Police," and I wore it to the grocery store and while on the train and walking around the city in the past few days. For some reason, I seemed to be getting a lot more attention from women with that shirt on. Their responses toward me in customer service situations seemed a bit more extra respectful than normal and had a submissive tone to them, and every now and then, I just couldn't go by unnoticed. I guess part of the reason could be that they may assume I am actually in law enforcement due to my current build from working out. If I were still as skinny as I was back in the day, I probably don't think this would be happening. But it was really interesting to see people looking as if they are actually wondering if I am indeed a cop.

yep.

when im out on the weekend in jeans nad a t-shirt i get x amount of respect.

if im out on a weekday night still wearing my suit from work, i get 2x respect.

human beings are idiots and are conditioned to see people as more or less alpha based on a variety of things that have nothing to do with being alpha - ie. what you are wearing, the car you drive, how much muscles you got, etc.

i mean, you take a dude like bill gates. i think the guy has dated like 1 girl his whole life (the same girl he ended up marrying).

he probably passed in front of a thousand gold diggers who never even looked his way cuz he didn't look alpha - so they missed out on a 50 billion dollar lottery ticket haha.

i always find it funny that people judge so much based on superficial stuff. i know guys who make half as much as i do but drive a car that is twice as expensive. they are in debt up to their ears while im making money off my money.

but i do agree, when i wear my suit women definitely treat me with more interest than when im wearing jeans.

just goes to show how shallow the whole mating game is.

Yes, its true (http://www.laddertheory.com/) Money/Power (real or perceived) represents approximately 50% of a woman's rating system, according to that website.

Isn't it illegal to impersonate law enforcement; such as wearing a shirt with "Police" boldly written on it? Not sarcasm; I'm asking for real. Presuming so, maybe it isn't such a good idea to do that, OP.

azanon said:

Isn't it illegal to impersonate law enforcement; such as wearing a shirt with "Police" boldly written on it? Not sarcasm; I'm asking for real. Presuming so, maybe it isn't such a good idea to do that, OP.

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I was thinking the same thing.

As for the premise of the post....yea.....power and status are to a man what looks are to a woman. I get SOOO much respect and attention in circles where people look up to me. In other circles I'm an anonymous joe. It's all about the situation

You guys all say that dressing up(wearing suits, etc.) gets you more noticed by chicks, but not me, not in my experience at all. I used to think, "If I wear this suit, I'm gonna get noticed by tons of hot women". Oh no. Was I wrong. And I'm also a well above average looking guy.

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You guys all say that dressing up(wearing suits, etc.) gets you more noticed by chicks, but not me, not in my experience at all. I used to think, "If I wear this suit, I'm gonna get noticed by tons of hot women". Oh no. Was I wrong. And I'm also a well above average looking guy.

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I'm not saying that. I get great results from a plain white tee, some blue jeans, and my black leather jacket.

Hah, let me even tell you, a few weeks ago I took a trip to Chicago dressed in dress pants, dress shirt, and tie. Walking through O'Hare International Airport did squat for me in terms of getting noticed by hot women, as I walked past literally dozens of them. Same thing while walking through the city of Chicago itself, especially by Wrigley Field where there are tons of hot women. There were HOT, highly f*ckable women everywhere, and no vibes(maybe a couple). Same thing a few months back when I was in Chicago again on another trip. And that time I had transfer flights to and from JFK International Airport and Dulles International Airport in Washington D.C., and passed by dozens of hot women, and again, NO vibes, except for maybe 1 or 2.

I can go on and on in other instances, but you get the picture.

Frank2500 said:

It's True...Women Like Men Who They Think Have Power

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I don't see the correlation - I used to carry talcom powder on my person and baby powder in my car for my feet and it didn't seem to do nothing for me, while.....oh wait..the word is "power" not "powder" - my bad, I feel stupid!

edger said:

I used to think, "If I wear this suit, I'm gonna get noticed by tons of hot women". Oh no. Was I wrong. And I'm also a well above average looking guy.

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Maybe it's because you're thinking this way that you don't get noticed. The same thing happened to me when I was younger and used to go clubbing with the mindset of: "Fu<k yeah i'm gonna get laid tonight", and nothin would happen. Whereas if I just go out to have a good time, and not worry about picking up women, that is when you get attention/vibes.

Re: Does Just Wearing a T-shirt Imply Impersonating Law Enforcement?

I'd like to get a few other people's ideas on this. Does merely wearing a T-shirt on which it is boldly written "Police" or "FBI" imply impersonating law enforcement? I mean, those shirts are publicly available and I see people wearing them all the time. I just want to be sure. I thought impersonating law enforcement had more to do with actually pretending to be a police officer through your actions rather than by just wearing a T-shirt? For example, actually going up to people and telling them that you're a police officer, pretending to be there to investigate stuff, etc. If that were the case, I think everyone who wears those kinds of T-shirts should have been arrested, then. I have walked past quite a few cops with that T-shirt on and they have all looked at me but I have so far never been bothered. All I'm doing is minding my business. If anything, you would think that the actual cops might see that as a sign of solidarity with them?

Anyway, I'd like someone who has worn some of those T-shirts in the past or is still wearing them to share their experiences with me because I'm certain that on a board like this, there's got to be at least one person who's won similar T-shirts quite a few times. Either way, I don't want to fool around and end up getting arrested for something as ridiculous as this.

This is called Command Presence and anyone with even a periphery knowledge of law enforcement knows how it works. Have a look at the link here, I did a bit of experimentation with this a while back. Command Presence is a presumption of authority and it doesn't necessarily have to be associated with law enforcement - though that's the most obvious illustration.

Although there is definitely an element of presumed Power to it there's a lot more going on when you can pull it off effectively. You not only project a atmosphere of power, but also a capacity for protection, an association with self-control and/or a perception of strength of character. Confidence, and an ability to project it plays into it as well; all of these are traits that women find desirable in Men. Women (and men to some degree) have an unconscious desire to see authority associated with positive character. Regardless of the truth, we want to think of Policemen, Firemen, Soldiers, Martial Arts Instructors, etc., virtually any profession or position where a Man has authority and the prowess to enforce it, to be in-control. The association has a universal effect of social proof that women pick up on.

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Hah, let me even tell you, a few weeks ago I took a trip to Chicago dressed in dress pants, dress shirt, and tie. Walking through O'Hare International Airport did squat for me in terms of getting noticed by hot women, as I walked past literally dozens of them. Same thing while walking through the city of Chicago itself, especially by Wrigley Field where there are tons of hot women. There were HOT, highly f*ckable women everywhere, and no vibes(maybe a couple). Same thing a few months back when I was in Chicago again on another trip. And that time I had transfer flights to and from JFK International Airport and Dulles International Airport in Washington D.C., and passed by dozens of hot women, and again, NO vibes, except for maybe 1 or 2.

I can go on and on in other instances, but you get the picture.

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Try a nice suit-coat to complete the look. Every cubicle-monkey these days wears a shirt and tie. But people who wear the full suit have a look of importance.

squirrels said:

Try a nice suit-coat to complete the look. Every cubicle-monkey these days wears a shirt and tie. But people who wear the full suit have a look of importance.

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Oh yeah a suit-coat. *drool*

Every time I need to give a talk or need to visit clients, I dress in a suit (and not an el-cheapo one either, I spend money like water on clothes) and I have the same observations as the OP. Afterwards I hook up with friends in a bar, and íf they're all dressed casually, I can witness a lot of the female attention going to me. Or perhaps it's me thinking stuff...just having fun.

Maybe you give off certain vibes when you feel like you're dressed as The Man. No idea, but it feels good.

Also, a lot of people dress like ****. Ever seen a guy wearing sneakers and a suit? Or a run off the mill winter jacket over a suit? Give me a break. Sometimes, I'm just superficial.

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Good comments. I was wondering again though, if anyone could get back to the original suggestion of "impersonation," which I personally don't think I am doing at all. If that were the case, all those folks who wear "NYPD" T-shirts, "FBI" T-shirts, etc. without actually being cops should all be asked to prove their credentials and get arrested when they fail to do so. My idea of impersonation, (if there is someone here who's in law enforcement, I'd appreciate his opinion of what it means) would be for example those crazy people who wear police uniforms with fake badges and pull women over late at night in the dark on the side of the road and harrass them sexually or rape them.

But just wearing a T-shirt and being an impersonator for that is news to me. Again, I may be wrong. Maybe someone else knows better.

Frank2500, I wouldn't worry too much about getting arrested for wearing that t-shirt. LMS - I thought that was funny.

Frank2500, be very careful wearing police shirts. Yes, you will get attention, however it may be the attention you do not want.

Some thug out there, who is maybe wanted by the police, or hates the police, may mistake you for one of them and take action against you.

Trust me on this, be careful. It's not worth it.

One more thing Frank, the police that saw you wearing the shirt knew you were not a police officer.

Police officers do not broadcast they are police officers off duty, for a reason.

Again, be careful what you are doing.

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I agree with the last poster. I was actually concerned in the past two days both on the bus and in one neighborhood where I was walking with a friend. The looks I got from the people on the street were "not very kind." I got quite a few frowns and while I'm not trying to be stereotypical here, as a black man, I got to see first hand that the police are unfortunately not a very welcome presence in some neighborhoods as some folks seemed to mistake me for a cop. I actually got quite worried for my safety at some point, because I was getting the "enemy within" vibe, considering the "don't snitch" mentality in some of those neighborhoods. Sure, you get attention, but many times it could be the wrong one as well. I agree. You may end up suddenly finding yourself face to face with people who have arrest warrants or have been locked up etc. and are seeking revenge.

Even at my gym, I got the same funny look from some folks.

Yes i agree women will go for power has joker said, it can be rather superficial.

But to me thats a good thing, you can turn the cage inside out and make it work for you.

I noticed this when i was younger, i used to manage a coffee shop, when i was a lowley sales assistant, i did not get much attention at all, but as soon has i became a boss the girls of the same age groups, you could tell they wanted a piece, but back then i was painfully shy.

I think you can communicate this also with dealing with the opposite sex, by showing your pritty much centered in your own universe, i think its powerful to show your not afraid to be a real man and stand up to your ideals and values, i think secretly alot of women are looking for a man with substance i.e power, that power can be focused on attaining women with a attitude or 'belief' i,e not letting the first hurdle stop you, simply knocking down and going on even faster. i believe if Bill Gates channelled his ambition for earning money e.t.c to gaming women or getting has many women has he wanted, he would have been very succesful, as men like that have the power to make the system work, or they are willing to see the cage and make it work for them, this is power!

Power to manipulate the world around you to your advantage, to view the cage be aware its there, but to now make that cage work for you knowing that other people are still trapped in its boundries, psychology is a powerful weapon, i am starting to think psychology is the most powerful weapon available in dealing with human interactions.

Its always good to get 'props' that work but far better to fully understand the purpose of that 'prop' i.e money, status e.t.c

Hey I know!!! I'll get a shirt made that says "Drug Dealer", then I'll get all the attention from hott byiotches and don't have to spend one dime. Cause hey impersonating a cop is easy, a drug dealer takes a lil' more tact. Hey is it easier to get women as a cop or drug dealer??? Careful with you're replies gentlemen, for I am now prompted to reconsider my career options...