Some Male Personal Trainers in Gyms are Something Else

Frank2500 · Sep 29, 2007

The goal of this post is not to make an assumption about personal trainers in all gyms. I'm sure it's different in every gym. However, I can only speak about the gym where I work out at. I don't know why, but I just don't seem to have good relationships with most male personal trainers (new and old) who end up being assigned at my gym. And it's not like I do anything in particular that causes them to (using American slang) "hate" on me. So far at my gym, there's only one or two male personal trainers that I'm friends with and who I conversate with from time to time. I don't know why this is the case, but at least at my gym, it seems to me that a lot of the male personal trainers seem to envy male members who perhaps for some reason, they think look better than them physically or whom female members might find more attractive than them.

At my gym, the overwhelming majority of male trainers believe that their status entitles them to sleep with as many female members as possible, including married ones. They take advantage of the ones (married ones included) who indicate that they need personal training and they rely so much on their status rather than on their individual "game" to get women. And it works very well with women who are vulnerable. These days, I have noticed that the male personal trainers have paired up/coupled with the respective women whom they work out with. At the end of respective sessions, it isn't uncommon to see the personal trainers walking the female members out of the gym and into their cars and then disappearing with them for several minutes.

When I go to the gym, I work out as hard as I can. I'm not there to compete with the personal trainers or the male members in the looks and work out domain. I can only be me; I can only do what I do...not what someone else does, and I'm not trying to look like anyone else. So I really don't understand what's the purpose of a lot of this unnecessary and often brutal competition among men in some gyms. Recently, a college-aged white female member (probably in her mid-twenties) with a really big ass (even though she wears spandex) started working out at my gym several weeks ago. I see the personal trainers who've been hitting on her frowning so deeply each time they see a regular male member attempting to introduce himself to this woman. It's as if the worst thing a male gym member can do is to dare try hooking up with a woman a personal trainer finds attractive. Then when they aren't using their status to get women, they tend to line up and lean in front of the trainers' desk to gossip about other members. I can't help but notice many times the looks in some of their eyes when I walk in and head toward the Men's locker room. They will look at each other and wink, say stuff, etc... I mean....what's the point for all of this?

Omen · Sep 29, 2007

Must be rough where you go. I work out at the YMCA, and the personal trainers are nothing special.

Now I think some are good, and some suck. (I have a degree in exercise science) so I see things when they train. Heck i've done personal training on regular people and the elderly.

Now no one knows what I do where I exercise, but I dont see any of that where I am at.

I'm sure though, that out there somewhere, PT have to be a holes, and think they are better than others.

Now here is the thing with some. Some have 4yr degrees, and are accredited from ACSM, NSCA, and CSCS.

SOME, have a week training and think they are gods when they are on the low end of the pole.

Most of us in this area, though my expertise is more in nutrition and supplements, dont do what you state. So it is very well possible you have the bone heads that have a week training, have a CPT certificate which is garbage, and then do it just for the ladies.

Hard to say man.

Frank2500 · Sep 29, 2007

Re:

Hi Omen,

Thank you very much for your reply. I was worried that some on here might misinterpret my post to suggest that I don't think highly of male personal trainers in gyms, but that isn't the case at all. I have a lot of respect for them. A lot of them are definitely well-educated, and others actually go to school to be trained specifically in what they do. But in my gym, based on what I see, out of about nine or 10 male personal trainers, only about three of them really work hard at their jobs. And out of those three, two of them, in addition to the rest, simply use their jobs to sleep with as many women as possible. More power to them. What I don't appreciate nor understand is why so many of them spend that much time gossiping about male members like myself: "This one is this..." "That blah blah blah has come..." "Did you see what he had on today..." "He thinks he's too smart/takes himself too seriously..." "All he does is use the blah blah blah machine..." etc.

A lot of these statements and corresponding behavior tends to come from the personal trainers who aren't very high on the scale of physical build and who for some reason just can't seem to stand to see any male members who they think female members might consider more attractive than them. It's unbelievable. My gym is huge and yet somehow, I'm often the target of this animosity from a lot of the male personal trainers as far as the looks I get and the gossip, etc. Each time one of them in the group gets sent to a different location and fitness center, others who come in somehow find a way to develop the same attitudes toward me for reasons best known to them. But I'm not going to let that get to me. I'll keep on working hard and minding my business and staying out of trouble. Sometimes people just seek ways to cause trouble and if they don't get it from you, they'll try to get it from someone else.

joekerr31 · Sep 29, 2007

let me share a little secret with you.

if you can master this then you've mastered pretty much all you need to master. its soooo simply, yet at the same time its very very hard. even knowing the secret I can only actualize it every so often.

ready?

where ever you are, whatever you are doing, whoever is around, whatever time it is....you must be the happiest mother f*cker in the world

this doesn't mean being loud and drawing attention to yourself. it doesn't mean cracking jokes. it doesn't mean being 'fake' and pretending to be the happiest person in the world. it doesn't mean starting a conversation with everyone you meet.

what it does mean though is that you have to genuinely be happy, despite whatever is going on around you. if someone is hating on you, you have to be totally oblivious to it and still treat even them great - you gotta be so happy that NOTHING can penetrate your good vibe.

trust me, you go in to your gym with sunshine coming out your *ss and you will CRUSH these trainers game. while they are playing the 'pound your chest' gorilla game you play the 'hot damn life is great and i'm loving it.'

NOTHING is more alpha than a guy who can keep a smile and positive attitude when surrounded by testosterone flooded cavemen. but i'll tell ya what, if you can you will reek of confidence.

the men in the gym will be thinking "What the F*CK? why the f*ck is that guy so happy? man i wish i was that happy."

the women will be thinking "oh wow, who is that guy? he's totally not following the herd like the rest of us. he totally doesn't care what silly mating rituals we are all engaging he. he's just doing his thing and is radiating happiness. if i hook up with him he'll bring that in to my life."

anyway, doesn't matter where you are, what you are doing, or what others around you are doing - NOTHING is more attractive than a genuinely happy person.

Drum&Bass · Sep 29, 2007

Frank2500 I know where your coming from, as a personal trainer myself, I see what your talking about ALL the time, in fact you just described most of my co-workers.

Most not all people in fitness are a little loopy and immature..but we make a ton of money instructing people how to get fit..unfortunately the majority of people we try to help are lazy and hopeless bastards. after awhile you start to see people differently, kinda like how sosuave made you see things diffeently (ala matrix).

We're at the gym for 12 or more hours a day...so after awhile, its only natural to start hitting on women who you see all the time. some women throw themselves at us..so we indulge. Its not the best idea to hook up with people where you work..but its an existance that works.

we are in a fitness industry where trainers should be at the top of their game physically and mentally, testosterone and hormones are flowing like crazy..and some trainers will AMOG you if your not strong..kinda like survival of the fittest.

So far at my gym, there's only one or two male personal trainers that I'm friends with and who I conversate with from time to time. I don't know why this is the case, but at least at my gym, it seems to me that a lot of the male personal trainers seem to envy male members who perhaps for some reason, they think look better than them physically or whom female members might find more attractive than them.

Some, not all people working in fitness only know how to look good and get sex...game means nothing, getting to know someone means nothing..its just about keeping fit and hooking up. don't take it personal, they are narrow minded people.

They will look at each other and wink, say stuff, etc.

this was another shock for me when i got into fitness, but yea alot of people in the biz TALK MAD SHIT !!!!!! but i can tell you 1st hand from hanging with alot of trainers that do this, its definitely out of insecurity.

Latinoman · Sep 29, 2007

Frank2500 said:
The goal of this post is not to make an assumption about personal trainers in all gyms. I'm sure it's different in every gym. However, I can only speak about the gym where I work out at. I don't know why, but I just don't seem to have good relationships with most male personal trainers (new and old) who end up being assigned at my gym. And it's not like I do anything in particular that causes them to (using American slang) "hate" on me. So far at my gym, there's only one or two male personal trainers that I'm friends with and who I conversate with from time to time. I don't know why this is the case, but at least at my gym, it seems to me that a lot of the male personal trainers seem to envy male members who perhaps for some reason, they think look better than them physically or whom female members might find more attractive than them.

At my gym, the overwhelming majority of male trainers believe that their status entitles them to sleep with as many female members as possible, including married ones. They take advantage of the ones (married ones included) who indicate that they need personal training and they rely so much on their status rather than on their individual "game" to get women. And it works very well with women who are vulnerable. These days, I have noticed that the male personal trainers have paired up/coupled with the respective women whom they work out with. At the end of respective sessions, it isn't uncommon to see the personal trainers walking the female members out of the gym and into their cars and then disappearing with them for several minutes.

When I go to the gym, I work out as hard as I can. I'm not there to compete with the personal trainers or the male members in the looks and work out domain. I can only be me; I can only do what I do...not what someone else does, and I'm not trying to look like anyone else. So I really don't understand what's the purpose of a lot of this unnecessary and often brutal competition among men in some gyms. Recently, a college-aged white female member (probably in her mid-twenties) with a really big ass (even though she wears spandex) started working out at my gym several weeks ago. I see the personal trainers who've been hitting on her frowning so deeply each time they see a regular male member attempting to introduce himself to this woman. It's as if the worst thing a male gym member can do is to dare try hooking up with a woman a personal trainer finds attractive. Then when they aren't using their status to get women, they tend to line up and lean in front of the trainers' desk to gossip about other members. I can't help but notice many times the looks in some of their eyes when I walk in and head toward the Men's locker room. They will look at each other and wink, say stuff, etc... I mean....what's the point for all of this?

You should go to the gym to be in shape, healthy, and blow off steam. NOT to make friends or add drama to your life.

I mean...you are man...I gather. Correct?

DjVelvet · Sep 29, 2007

joekerr31 said:
let me share a little secret with you.

if you can master this then you've mastered pretty much all you need to master. its soooo simply, yet at the same time its very very hard. even knowing the secret I can only actualize it every so often.

ready?

where ever you are, whatever you are doing, whoever is around, whatever time it is....you must be the happiest mother f*cker in the world

this doesn't mean being loud and drawing attention to yourself. it doesn't mean cracking jokes. it doesn't mean being 'fake' and pretending to be the happiest person in the world. it doesn't mean starting a conversation with everyone you meet.

what it does mean though is that you have to genuinely be happy, despite whatever is going on around you. if someone is hating on you, you have to be totally oblivious to it and still treat even them great - you gotta be so happy that NOTHING can penetrate your good vibe.

trust me, you go in to your gym with sunshine coming out your *ss and you will CRUSH these trainers game. while they are playing the 'pound your chest' gorilla game you play the 'hot damn life is great and i'm loving it.'

NOTHING is more alpha than a guy who can keep a smile and positive attitude when surrounded by testosterone flooded cavemen. but i'll tell ya what, if you can you will reek of confidence.

the men in the gym will be thinking "What the F*CK? why the f*ck is that guy so happy? man i wish i was that happy."

the women will be thinking "oh wow, who is that guy? he's totally not following the herd like the rest of us. he totally doesn't care what silly mating rituals we are all engaging he. he's just doing his thing and is radiating happiness. if i hook up with him he'll bring that in to my life."

anyway, doesn't matter where you are, what you are doing, or what others around you are doing - NOTHING is more attractive than a genuinely happy person.

I am reading about something called the "Sedona Method". It is supposed to improve your inner game, and find the happiness within you.

I dare to say. A great 90% of humans are not happy within. The toughest quest in life is to seek independent longlasting genuine happiness. I'm trying to seek for it within. It will probably take months or years.

STR8UP · Sep 29, 2007

Frank2500 said:
At my gym, the overwhelming majority of male trainers believe that their status entitles them to sleep with as many female members as possible, including married ones. They take advantage of the ones (married ones included) who indicate that they need personal training and they rely so much on their status rather than on their individual "game" to get women. And it works very well with women who are vulnerable.

It sounds like YOU are a little jealous.

A person's status DOES entitle them to have sex with whomever that status affords them access to.

Do you hate on a rock star cause he gets pu$$y? This is the same dynamic.

joekerr31 · Sep 29, 2007

DjVelvet said:
I am reading about something called the "Sedona Method". It is supposed to improve your inner game, and find the happiness within you.

I dare to say. A great 90% of humans are not happy within. The toughest quest in life is to seek independent longlasting genuine happiness. I'm trying to seek for it within. It will probably take months or years.

yep. im pretty happy within. at times im very happy. its taken years to get this way though. id say literally over 10 years (although i had a lot more baggage to get through than most people).

when you reach your first day where you are truly happy you'll notice two things...

1) that very very few people exist in that state. it becomes REALLY noticeable how not happy people are. it doesn't mean they are depressed, they are just kind of 'blah'.

2) that acheiving that state is soooo simply, yet so very complex. its not about 'doing' anything, if anything its about NOT doing things. its about not engaging in a way of thinking that we have all been programmed with. its quite amazing how when you remove all the bullsh*t that has been pushed into our brains over the years how you become a happy, serene individual.
like i say, when you get into that state, even if only for one day, you realize just how simple it is and yet to reach it is such a complicated thing.

Phyzzle · Sep 29, 2007

Some Male Personal Trainers in Gyms are Something Else

I thought you were going to say some of the male personal trainers were Transvestites . . .

Omen · Sep 30, 2007

I suggest to just do your thing, and dont let them bother you. I'm not huge, but I can throw up more weight than most, so for me I never have a problem. I have NEVER had a male trainer say anything to me. Where I go, most mind their own business. And not only that, my physique is pretty much better than all of them, so its not like they are going to say much.

Then you can pull the... You can start talking sh*t when you look as good as I do ladies.

Again, none know I know what they do, but if I ever had what happened to you, I can back it up, and probably put them to shame if I had too. Then they wont talk anymore. I've never had too, and I dont plan on it.

Just take your headphones, get in the zone, do your thing, and get out. Pretend like no one else is in there. When I go, I put the tunes on, do what I do, and go. I see people, but I dont hear people, and i'm in my own world.

What I am wondering is what they have against you? Are they intimidated by you talking to women, looking good, or what? They need a reason. And I know you mentioned it above, but if anything I would think it would be the opposite.

If I had some jerk do that all the time to me, i'd tell him what I said earlier about you can critique and poke fun of once you look as good as I do, and lift what I do pound for pound.

Most dont want to be put in their place, so I cant see them doing that.

Again, where I go you wouldn't see that. I dont know, you must be at Golds Gym or something similar with a bunch of air heads.

decades · Sep 30, 2007

George Clooney is gettin "more" than me and I hate it.

KarmaSutra · Sep 30, 2007

joekerr31 said:
where ever you are, whatever you are doing, whoever is around, whatever time it is....you must be the happiest mother f*cker in the world

this doesn't mean being loud and drawing attention to yourself. it doesn't mean cracking jokes. it doesn't mean being 'fake' and pretending to be the happiest person in the world. it doesn't mean starting a conversation with everyone you meet.

what it does mean though is that you have to genuinely be happy, despite whatever is going on around you. if someone is hating on you, you have to be totally oblivious to it and still treat even them great - you gotta be so happy that NOTHING can penetrate your good vibe.

trust me, you go in to your gym with sunshine coming out your *ss and you will CRUSH these trainers game. while they are playing the 'pound your chest' gorilla game you play the 'hot damn life is great and i'm loving it.'

NOTHING is more alpha than a guy who can keep a smile and positive attitude when surrounded by testosterone flooded cavemen. but i'll tell ya what, if you can you will reek of confidence.

the men in the gym will be thinking "What the F*CK? why the f*ck is that guy so happy? man i wish i was that happy."

the women will be thinking "oh wow, who is that guy? he's totally not following the herd like the rest of us. he totally doesn't care what silly mating rituals we are all engaging he. he's just doing his thing and is radiating happiness. if i hook up with him he'll bring that in to my life."

anyway, doesn't matter where you are, what you are doing, or what others around you are doing - NOTHING is more attractive than a genuinely happy person.

Absolutely, goddamned right! 100%. This was one of the first things I 180'ed when I began my journey and it has absolutely changed every single aspect of who I am and how I relate to everyone else.

STR8UP · Sep 30, 2007

KarmaSutra said:
Absolutely, goddamned right! 100%. This was one of the first things I 180'ed when I began my journey and it has absolutely changed every single aspect of who I am and how I relate to everyone else.

Yea, Karma, when I met you you seemed like a pretty upbeat kind of guy.

People look at you like you posess magical powers when you are TRULY enthusiastic about life and living.

Hopefully one day soon I can at least get myself back to my semi upbeat self. That would be nice....

joekerr31 · Sep 30, 2007

KarmaSutra said:
Absolutely, goddamned right! 100%. This was one of the first things I 180'ed when I began my journey and it has absolutely changed every single aspect of who I am and how I relate to everyone else.

they say the pen is mightier than the sword.

well an (authentic) positive attitude is mightier than money, muscles or status.

it is the ultimate alpha trait.

because love, money, muscles, status, health, etc. - ALL of it comes from a positive attitude. yes, you can get it without a positive attitude, but you'll ultimately lose it. the only way to get those things and KEEP them is with a positive attitude.

on a biologicaly / instinctual level women know this.

no one wants to grow old with a grumpy old bastard. everyone wants a positive person in their life, as a friend, as a work colleage, as a lover.

Omen · Sep 30, 2007

joekerr31 said:
they say the pen is mightier than the sword.

well an (authentic) positive attitude is mightier than money, muscles or status.

it is the ultimate alpha trait.

because love, money, muscles, status, health, etc. - ALL of it comes from a positive attitude. yes, you can get it without a positive attitude, but you'll ultimately lose it. the only way to get those things and KEEP them is with a positive attitude.

on a biologicaly / instinctual level women know this.

no one wants to grow old with a grumpy old bastard. everyone wants a positive person in their life, as a friend, as a work colleage, as a lover.

I cant stand it when people shut you down when you HAVE one. I get that when starting a business. I work my butt off and have, and people always go... Its nice to have dreams, but blah blah, or get a 9-5. Cant stand it when they do that, but it only fuels the fire and makes me go at it more.

I really cant stand women that way who are not positive. In fact I think that's what attracted me to this one, though young, she's very positive, and she also doesn't give a crap what everyone else thinks, nor is she like others. She's like... This is how I am, i'm not like those girls, I dont care what any of you think, screw you all.

I love that energy and positive talk from a woman. They may get crap from others, but they look at it in a positive way, and say how cool it is to be different. I dont want a grumpy woman and I dont think women want a grumpy guy.

Though we all have our downs, and I know I do, I try to keep positive all the time. I always have people think i'm crazy cause I am always positive, but that's me, and that's how I operate.

A woman turns you down, you go... So what, its just a woman. Then others are like.. You just got turned down, why aren't you really pissed and mad and what not. Dude, its just a woman.

squirrels · Sep 30, 2007

Women don't hire personal trainers, they hire "gym dates".

It must be a secret fantasy of many women to sleep with their personal trainer. The same thing happens at the gym where I work out. Yeah, I envy them a little, but I don't run any game at the gym. Mainly because I go there too often. It IS the equivalent for me of dating a woman I work with. Which I tried...and it got awkward when things didn't work out.

d9930380 · Oct 2, 2007

The same thing happens with bouncers in clubs. Men don't like competition, it's that simple. Nothing more to write about it.

Basically they will try to intimidate you into doing nothing. You just have to ignore that, **** them, you're not there to make friends with them. If you're there to pull then just go for it.

KarmaSutra · Oct 2, 2007

STR8UP said:
Yea, Karma, when I met you you seemed like a pretty upbeat kind of guy.

People look at you like you posess magical powers when you are TRULY enthusiastic about life and living.

Hopefully one day soon I can at least get myself back to my semi upbeat self. That would be nice....

My admiration goes to you brother. When we met what I valued most was your laid back, contemplative view of the world. True men don't rush to judgement based on emotions. Women do that. You're one of the coolest cats I've ever had the pleasure of meeting and growing with.

Of our court this is the heirarchy:

Rollo is the Grand Master of our lodge.

DEEP DISH being the Secretary and registrar.

I'm the court Jester/Magickian.

You're the cool executioner holding the axe, waiting for somone to drop thier shoe.

:rockon:

Your tone seems a tad on the depressive? PM me and I'll take a ride out to O-town and we'll talk about it and conquer it together.

d9930380 · Oct 2, 2007

joekerr31 - I agree with the being happy is the key. However all art comes from pain.

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