Chicks who actually go out of their way to be ****s...or maybe not

edger · Jun 30, 2007

I'm still on a dating/friends/networking site(no not MySpace)I mentioned a couple of posts back, though not a paying member like I used to be. I never bothered to take down my profile. Anyway today I send out a wink to a chick, attached to it which said "I found your profile interesting and would like to hear from you". She replies back and say's "What would you like to hear from me?" She was able to reply back because she's a paying member.

My first thought was, "c*nt". Then I thought, "sh*t test"? It could very well be a test, but I don't know how quick I'd be to jump to that possibility, considering the fact that I had gotten a similar response from a chick(a MILF, no less, who eventually proved to not have interest) who's response was "so then talk to me" after I had emailed her saying "What's goin' on. Cool profile. We should talk". That situation never went further than the internet, as she ended up playing games(aka. attention wh*re)

Anyway, if a chick is in fact disinterested, you wonder to yourself why even bother with such replies as in the 2 examples I gave. Most likely to get a heated reaction out of me I'd say, so they could go about on their merry way thinking "Ooh that made my ego feel so good that he cared enough to get pissed off".

Hah, anything for their ego's. Pathetically amazing.

Phyzzle · Jun 30, 2007

I doubt she put any thought at all into that reply.
"I wanna talk" => "talk about what?" (send). That's about it. She wasn't trying to piss you off.

You were the 15th or 20th guy she was respoding to in that session, between whatever other web surfing she was doing.

You have done exactly nothing to get her attention.

There are plenty of witty comebacks that might get her attention now. I could think of a few, but you're not a paying member, so you can't send them, eh?

Jestor · Jun 30, 2007

edger said:
I'm still on a dating/friends/networking site(no not MySpace)I mentioned a couple of posts back, though not a paying member like I used to be. I never bothered to take down my profile. Anyway today I send out a wink to a chick, attached to it which said "I found your profile interesting and would like to hear from you". She replies back and say's "What would you like to hear from me?" She was able to reply back because she's a paying member.

My first thought was, "c*nt". Then I thought, "sh*t test"? It could very well be a test, but I don't know how quick I'd be to jump to that possibility, considering the fact that I had gotten a similar response from a chick(a MILF, no less, who eventually proved to not have interest) who's response was "so then talk to me" after I had emailed her saying "What's goin' on. Cool profile. We should talk". That situation never went further than the internet, as she ended up playing games(aka. attention wh*re)

Anyway, if a chick is in fact disinterested, you wonder to yourself why even bother with such replies as in the 2 examples I gave. Most likely to get a heated reaction out of me I'd say, so they could go about on their merry way thinking "Ooh that made my ego feel so good that he cared enough to get pissed off".

Hah, anything for their ego's. Pathetically amazing.

The best way to initiate contact with a girl online is to ONLY respond to her profile IF she ACTUALLY writes something you connect with without trying too hard. IOW why is her profile interesting or cool?

All I can say is that messaging girls for no reason other than they look good, is a bad place to come from. The onus is on them to write something worthy of a response. If they don't then they shouldn't be surprised when men have nothing interesting to say to them and they have nothing to give them in return.

edger · Jun 30, 2007

Phyzzle said:
There are plenty of witty comebacks that might get her attention now. I could think of a few, but you're not a paying member, so you can't send them, eh?

Actually, with this site, if the other person's a paying member and they email you, you can exchange emails with them even if you're not a paying member. But that's only if they email YOU.

STR8UP · Jun 30, 2007

Phyzzle said:
I doubt she put any thought at all into that reply.
"I wanna talk" => "talk about what?" (send). That's about it. She wasn't trying to piss you off.

You were the 15th or 20th guy she was respoding to in that session, between whatever other web surfing she was doing.

You have done exactly nothing to get her attention.

I'll second that.

How is she a cvnt for answering back in that way?

Don't know about you, but I like a little sass in a woman anyway. I would shoot her back a C&F reply and see what happens. She's saying "ok big guy, lets see what you got?" so give it to her!

LovelyLady · Jul 1, 2007

edger said:
Anyway today I send out a wink to a chick, attached to it which said

"I found your profile interesting and would like to hear from you".

My response to reading your blurb here was "Yeah, you and everyone else" Yup. Sounds B*****, but that's the uncensored truth. When my portrait is active I average over 100 emails a day. Her responding at all is good. She saw something in your portrait she liked, but wants to know if you can set yourself about from "the Herd"

joekerr31 · Jul 1, 2007

ok, first let me say that i do NOT use any of the online dating services. people are 10x as fake online as they are in real life - and they are fake in real life!

i like to get as accurate a look a the goods im getting as possible, so personally i prefer real life.

i could care less if people use online services myself - whatever floats your boat - so i'm not being critical here.

that being said. a few times, simple as a social experiment, i've posted various profiles on these services just to see what kind of responses come in.

once i posted one with a pic of hot male 10 in the profile. im not gay, so cut me some slack when i say this, but this guys bod was the bod every guy wants to have and every woman wants to f*ck. in the profile i was casual, friendly, blah blah, all the sh*t women like to see. btw, the pic was an amateur pic so not to create doubt that the profile was fake.

and yes, i got a ton of responses.

what was fascinating with the responses was that they had the following characteristics...

1) ugly chics responded (clearly showing women have a very very very hard time judging their own status. i mean, seriously, these chics would have ZERO shot at this fictional guy - perfect body, accomplished professional, etc.).

2) many MILFs responded and basically threw themselves forward as a sex toy for this guy. they did not beat around the bush, they basically came right out and said 'i'd love to f*ck you" kind of thing.

3) no HB 9/10 replied. a few HB8s replied, and they behaved like the milfs, but were more subtle about it. both the HB8+ and MILFS did NOT attempt to build any kind of personal rapport with this guy, they instantly threw their sexually out there trying to snag his interest.

4) 95% of the female responses were SHORT. one or two sentences MAX. they did not try to qualify themselves. they did not try to peak his interest. and they all had basically the same theme "hey, i like your profile. lets chat."

what did all this tell me? it told me that women, when it comes to approaching, are HORRIBLE!!!!! they don't have the slightest idea how to do it. for all the talk about how women are great conversationalists - THEY SUCK!

its put forward that women are cold online because they are getting 100s of emails. personally, i think they are that way because they just suck at conversation. they need the face to face, they need to READ your body language. women are NON verbal creatures (at least when it comes to being verbal and having a point behind what you are saying!).

so as for her short response - personally i think thats the status quo out there. women toss out a boring one line response and expect you then to take the lead.

im telling ya, run the experiment i ran and you'll be shocked at just how clumsy and unskilled women are at the mating game when they:

1) don't know that you want to f*ck them
2) can't read your non verbal queues

if you knew that the ONLY power 99% of women have over you is that you desperately want to f*ck them you'd be SHOCKED! your jaw would hit the floor.

and while wyldfire is no longer posting, i also re-iterate, please DO NOT listen to women posters. they aren't goign to give you advice that is helpful. the only one that occasionally has advice that is relevant to the male experience is penkitten.

anyway, online is a wasteland. in my opinion the worst side of women comes out and you really don't know what you are getting because their behavior is very different in cyber world as it would be in the real world.

Hitman10000 · Jul 1, 2007

If you're this worked up about online dating, forget about dating offine.

edger said:
I'm still on a dating/friends/networking site(no not MySpace)I mentioned a couple of posts back, though not a paying member like I used to be. I never bothered to take down my profile. Anyway today I send out a wink to a chick, attached to it which said "I found your profile interesting and would like to hear from you". She replies back and say's "What would you like to hear from me?" She was able to reply back because she's a paying member.

My first thought was, "c*nt". Then I thought, "sh*t test"? It could very well be a test, but I don't know how quick I'd be to jump to that possibility, considering the fact that I had gotten a similar response from a chick(a MILF, no less, who eventually proved to not have interest) who's response was "so then talk to me" after I had emailed her saying "What's goin' on. Cool profile. We should talk". That situation never went further than the internet, as she ended up playing games(aka. attention wh*re)

Anyway, if a chick is in fact disinterested, you wonder to yourself why even bother with such replies as in the 2 examples I gave. Most likely to get a heated reaction out of me I'd say, so they could go about on their merry way thinking "Ooh that made my ego feel so good that he cared enough to get pissed off".

Hah, anything for their ego's. Pathetically amazing.

Phyzzle · Jul 2, 2007

the only one that occasionally has advice that is relevant to the male experience is penkitten.

I like WaterTiger, since she seems to be drunk whenever she posts. Golden nuggets of subconcious honesty there.

edger · Jul 2, 2007

joekerr31 said:
and while wyldfire is no longer posting, i also re-iterate, please DO NOT listen to women posters. they aren't goign to give you advice that is helpful.

I know, I never go that route. That's why I don't understand how women could hold many of the positions they hold..like Psychiatrists, Therapists/Counselors, Politicians, anything requiring rational thought.

edger · Jul 2, 2007

Interesting responses so far.

KarmaSutra · Jul 2, 2007

The only thing about this thread I find enjoyable is the title. Anything with the word cvnt in it is alright in my book! :yes:

Thanks Edger,

Karma

edger · Jul 2, 2007

This is how it's going so far:

Her - "What would you like to hear from me?"

My response - "I'd like to hear your whole life story so I can write a book

"

Her - "Wow...umm...my life is only interesting on the weekends. During the week, I'm all like librarian-like and stuff. Could you just write about the weekends? What about you?"

edger · Jul 3, 2007

UPDATE - Yup, I hit the nail on the head!

So much for her being "interested", check out what's transpired in the last few days with this chick. So, afterall, I was right. And my game was tight too(at least I believe it was). Shall I say attention wh*re?! Take a look for yourself...

My last email to her exactly as it was:

Her- "Wow...umm...my life is only interesting on the weekends."

Me- And I was thinking I had something to work with here...bahhhhhhhh, you've just killed my dreams of writing one of the greatest novels of all time!..how could it be!!!???

Her- "During the week, I'm all like librarian-like and stuff."

Me- So you're all like, like, librarian-like and stuff, eh? Ya know, that's LIKE SUPER cool. Maybe you can give me some pointers to another book.

Her- "Could you just write about the weekends?"

Me- But don't you see my book has now been downsized by about 200 pages?!...bahhhhhhhhh, my lifelong dream has faded beneath me!

Her- "What about you?"

Me- Ahh, me. Nosy little girl. Woman, hasn't your mother ever taught you not to ask a stranger such personal info.? Only "I" can ask such questions. Hehe. Gimme a call, or I'll call you, and maybe I'll tell ya. I don't use messenger, as it's a pain in the ass, but if you feel uncomfortable with the phone at first, I'll make the exception. 555-555-5555.

HER RESPONSE:

"My mother taught me lots of things...like well...I haven't listened to most of them but they werent THAT important. Oh yeah, wear sunscreen and moisterize. Something about tattoos and wearing lots of black too, but I don't remember that one.

Yeah I dont really do the phone thing at first. I think I will stick to e-mail for now, but I will give you my REAL e-mail address. It's "xyz.com". Its not a phone number but getting a number out of me is like getting me to not ask questions."

Enough said!

Mr.Positive · Jul 3, 2007

joekerr31 said:
ok, first let me say that i do NOT use any of the online dating services. people are 10x as fake online as they are in real life - and they are fake in real life!

i like to get as accurate a look a the goods im getting as possible, so personally i prefer real life.

i could care less if people use online services myself - whatever floats your boat - so i'm not being critical here.

that being said. a few times, simple as a social experiment, i've posted various profiles on these services just to see what kind of responses come in.

once i posted one with a pic of hot male 10 in the profile. im not gay, so cut me some slack when i say this, but this guys bod was the bod every guy wants to have and every woman wants to f*ck. in the profile i was casual, friendly, blah blah, all the sh*t women like to see. btw, the pic was an amateur pic so not to create doubt that the profile was fake.

and yes, i got a ton of responses.

what was fascinating with the responses was that they had the following characteristics...

1) ugly chics responded (clearly showing women have a very very very hard time judging their own status. i mean, seriously, these chics would have ZERO shot at this fictional guy - perfect body, accomplished professional, etc.).

2) many MILFs responded and basically threw themselves forward as a sex toy for this guy. they did not beat around the bush, they basically came right out and said 'i'd love to f*ck you" kind of thing.

3) no HB 9/10 replied. a few HB8s replied, and they behaved like the milfs, but were more subtle about it. both the HB8+ and MILFS did NOT attempt to build any kind of personal rapport with this guy, they instantly threw their sexually out there trying to snag his interest.

4) 95% of the female responses were SHORT. one or two sentences MAX. they did not try to qualify themselves. they did not try to peak his interest. and they all had basically the same theme "hey, i like your profile. lets chat."

what did all this tell me? it told me that women, when it comes to approaching, are HORRIBLE!!!!! they don't have the slightest idea how to do it. for all the talk about how women are great conversationalists - THEY SUCK!

its put forward that women are cold online because they are getting 100s of emails. personally, i think they are that way because they just suck at conversation. they need the face to face, they need to READ your body language. women are NON verbal creatures (at least when it comes to being verbal and having a point behind what you are saying!).

so as for her short response - personally i think thats the status quo out there. women toss out a boring one line response and expect you then to take the lead.

im telling ya, run the experiment i ran and you'll be shocked at just how clumsy and unskilled women are at the mating game when they:

1) don't know that you want to f*ck them
2) can't read your non verbal queues

if you knew that the ONLY power 99% of women have over you is that you desperately want to f*ck them you'd be SHOCKED! your jaw would hit the floor.

and while wyldfire is no longer posting, i also re-iterate, please DO NOT listen to women posters. they aren't goign to give you advice that is helpful. the only one that occasionally has advice that is relevant to the male experience is penkitten.

anyway, online is a wasteland. in my opinion the worst side of women comes out and you really don't know what you are getting because their behavior is very different in cyber world as it would be in the real world.

Thanks for taking the time to post this Joekerr. I've never tried online dating, and I definitely won't now. This experiment is golden, and you saved a lot of us time and energy.

I have checked out craigslist in my area, sadly to say. It's funny actually, if you read the women for men ads, all the women posts are "I need this"..."Give me this"..."You must be this.."..."I am the greatest". And then they post a pic of an average-at-best gal.

The men for women adds are even more funny. It's a bunch of AFCs that post stuff like "I can give you this.." "Pick me!!".."I'll give you a sensual massage with no sex"..

No thanks..I need to get better at real life approaching.

LovelyLady · Jul 3, 2007

Uhhh... okay... so she doesn't give out her phone number to a guy she has only exchanged a few superficial emails with. But she is willing to give you her private email, where she has her guard down a good bit, is away from all the other guys approaching her, so she can get to know you a bit better before she meets you - but you think she isn't interested? I think you are so busy looking for her "no" you didn't hear her "yes"

Joekerr31 can certainly tell you everything about being a pretend man with a pretend profile being approached BY women.

I can, however, tell you what it is like to be a REAL woman, being approached by REAL men - which I believe is your situation (not her approaching you). We are inundated with emails. She wants to take the time to be selective - and SAFE. She has no idea who you are, you know? She IS trying to build a rapport with you.

But then again, I am a woman... not a man pretending to be a different man pretending... Yawn.

joekerr31 · Jul 3, 2007

well even looking at things in the 'real' sense as the last poster suggests... online dating still is not in your best interest.

like the poster said, the hot women get 100s of emails.

now think about that for a second. can you imagine how your own ego would be artificially inflated if you received 100s of emails from women? instantly you see yourself as the prize.

even if you get a date with her, she KNOWS that at any time she can dump your *ss and pick another email from the 100s in her inbox. It provides women with this virtual sense of power.

i say virtual because the power is coming from this virtual reality. in REAL life women don't have this power. in REAL life YOU have the power.

you see, when you approach a woman and get a date in REAL life, you know what you are telling her? you are telling her that you got balls and you go after what you want. which means that if SHE doesn't float your boat after a few dates, you'll just go after some other woman.

heck, she said yes to a date, so she's goign to figure there are other women out there that will say yes also.

YOU have the power. YOU are the prize.

this online sh*t takes all of that away from you. the only reason guys do online is because they arent successful in real life - which is SOOO the wrong reason to do it (if there even is a good reason!)

If i were to ever do the online dating thing i'd probably do the eharmony thing or something. one of those services that gets a bit extensive in terms of matching up interests and qualities.

joekerr31 · Jul 3, 2007

oh by the way, i knew a girl who used this online stuff. actually ive known a couple fo them.

the first one was fairly genuine in why she used it. she just wanted to find a good man. she went from getting very little attention in REAL life to getting quite a bit online. the result? she totally lost sight of her original reason for doing it and got lost in the head trip of having tons of guys chasing you. as a result, none of her dates worked out, because she was in the wrong frame of mind to build a genuine relationship with someone.

the second one used it basically to always have a guy in her life. i'm telling ya, she treated these online dating sites like an escort agency where you don't have to pay

every month it was a new guy.

ego trip. i felt bad for all these guys who would get tossed every 3-4 weeks and replaced with a new version. but oh well, thats what you get dealing with chics online.

im telling ya, women get into this online dating stuff and they become REALLY hard to handle (even more so than normal).

find yourself a nice girl living in the real world. she'll rock your world perhaps and have real long term potential.

because ill tell you this much, in real life women DO NOT go on dates with guys they don't like. so in real life all you gotta do is get a date and you're 95% of the way to where you want to be

edger · Jul 3, 2007

joekerr31 said:
in REAL life women don't have this power.

What?? Hot women in REAL life have just as much sense of power as they do on the net. In REAL life, they're getting hit on and stared at left and right. You don't think that gives them a sense of power? Both the internet and real life equally gives them a sense of power.

joekerr31 · Jul 3, 2007

hot women are not getting hit on all the time.

thats a total fallacy.

id wager that an hb7 gets hit on more than an hb10.

most guys wont approach an hb10.

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