Hey guys just wanted to give you a heads up at what happened over at t-nation. (nice site, good programs i guess)

Guy called Sterno posted a spreadsheet of lots of Chad Waterbury's workout's with links to his programs and stuff seriously good stuff (well i think at least...cause i'm newb lol)

anyway here it is
http://216.17.22.84/uploads/CW_Programs.zip

just sharing the love, if this isn't allowed i'm really sorry and delete this thread guys.

anyway once you guys have a read through it could someone please help me choose a program? i've been using Chad's TBT as you probably know but it's slow and gains have been really modest.

so i want a program that i can just stick to for a long time preferably a split but as long as it works....
and i'm more for the visual side of things...like visual > strength for me personally but strength is also nice but i'm talking lean muscle that is functional...

anyway have fun and if you can help me out~
thanks again~

Anti-Bodybuilding Hypertrophy I
Anti-Bodybuilding Hypertrophy II
Strength Focused Mesocycle
SOB Training
Triple Total Training
Hybrid Hypertrophy
Waterbury Method
Total Body Training (blank)
Total Body Training (with exercises)
Quattro Dynamo
Singles Club
Big Boy Basics
Next Big 3
Outlaw Strength & Conditioning

i wont download a zip because you get viruses that way

scanned with AVG (latest version)
manually started at 6/28/2007 4:39:31 PM
finishhed 6/28/2007 4:39:31 PM
objects scanned: 2
errors: 0

virus statistics:
NO THREATS FOUND.

what more do you want. its like less then 150kb. i seriously doubt the strength of any malicious software that is that small.

The size has absolutely nothing to do with what a program is capable of.

You can download all the .zips you want. It's just a container. Just don't run executable types (.exe, .bat, etc)

right cause a virus that is less then 150kb has enough data to self sustain itself. either way like Ruckus said though .zip, .rar they are containers. no harm downloading them jsut scan it yourself if you feel so insecure about it.