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Divorced mature men...the new Prize?

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I went to the bookstore and saw this magazine. I think it was either Details or GQ. It had a nice article about the life of bachelors. The article was about divorced men ages 25-45 or something like that. And how they have become the new Prize, even more so that single men ages 18-30. To the point that there have been targeted for marketing stuff. To the point that apartments have been developed in places such as New York to attract that breed of men. That breed of man had cash to dispose.

The logic behind the article is that these men have “money”, “women”, and “marketers” at their feet. They compared them with Samantha from “Sex and the City” (a show that I hate). That because men have become ‘smarter’ in the last 10 years, they have managed to go away from a divorce relatively unscratched. They were referring to the men that were not stuck with alimony or huge sums of child support. The ones that either use pre-ups or were “lucky” or smart during their divorce proceedings.

One of the examples they provided was this 40 year old man that was dating a 32 year old woman and few weeks early a 26 year old woman.

They also mentioned that many of the “career” oriented woman are targeting this kind of man. These women are the typical educated 28+ single women that finally want a relationship. Because, society does not measure divorce men at the same category as divorced women. They view those men (the one I described above) as men that ‘passed the first interview’. As men that are willing to commit as they were married once. And they are more desirable than the 18-30 singles that were not married

Interesting article. For a moment, make me wonder what I’m doing in a LTR as I can be categorized as one.

Now, I am not saying that the article is accurate. All I’m saying is that it was interesting how things are starting to get better for some men.

Divorce is NOT a bad thing is you are a DJ (although, keeping a marriage going is as DJ as anything, IMO). After all, sometimes you have to move on with life. But what’s the difference between a PUA and a DJ? Once we reach a more mature age…EVEN if we are divorced…we still a prize. Not just for women…but even for marketers.

A PUA? If a PUA failed to self improved himself…by the time he reaches his mature age…he will have to change venues. He will have to deal with smarter woman. He will have to bring more to the table as to show WHY he is the PRIZE.

A dj has to show nothing. As DJs already KNOW what they are. We are the Prize.

It amazes me how younger people, in their early 20s and mid 20s waste their time learning how to “pick up women”, when in reality they should be learning how to self improve themselves in ALL aspects of their lives.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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It was in the last issue of Details with that guy from the ER ripoff show. It was a well written article regarding how divorced men are being catered to now that companies have realized that divorced,mature men have capital, steady and sound mind and are a commodity to middle/upper middle class society.

We're now a blessing no longer the scourge.

Latinoman, you prick, you beat me to it. I was going to start a thread about that article.

What is it they say about great minds . . .?
 

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Latinoman said:
...It amazes me how younger people, in their early 20s and mid 20s waste their time learning how to “pick up women”, when in reality they should be learning how to self improve themselves in ALL aspects of their lives.
It's how they define and measure themselves since they usually have little or nothing else to measure. Now, as for mature men 38 and above, we know better... That's why we are a commodomy... Yeah baby!!! :rockon:
 

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I think the truth is more like that they are targeted because they are "desireable, but not very smart". Had they been smarter, they wouldn't have gotten into a marriage destined to fail in the first place, etc.

I guess when I say "smarter", I mean, "having more foresight", "thinking things through thoroughly before doing them", or "scrutinizing quality". Logic would have you believe that this group would be prone to impulse buys. Their brief, and failed, marriages are very huge 'impulse buys': a testament to their shopping behaviors.
 

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Maybe, if you consider a 15 year stint brief. I know that in my case the experience made me a lot smarter about how women really work and a lot less uptight about dealing with them because nothing a date can do is even in the same league with what I've already been through. That and other factors seem to make women more than willing to spend time.

As usual I think it depends on the individuals, but women don't seem so hot about guys from really short marriages in my experience.

YMMV as they say.
 

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* steps a safe distance away from Vulpine to avoid residual shock fragments * :D

I would think, too, if a divorce man has leftover baggage living with him, then naturally its going to lower his marketability. So maybe it should read, divorced "kidless" men, to be more specific.
 

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azanon said:
* steps a safe distance away from Vulpine to avoid residual shock fragments * :D

I would think, too, if a divorce man has leftover baggage living with him, then naturally its going to lower his marketability. So maybe it should read, divorced "kidless" men, to be more specific.

It states about kidless or no to very little economical attachment to the ex.
As well as lack of alimony.

If you are in the poor house because of alimony or ridiculous child support...then you are screw.

In my case, my kids are teenagers (one almost in college)...so, they are a non-issue. Heck, I probably have 3 or so more years of child support (nominal as it is almost nothing). I even own a house and couple vehicles.

But I know of cases of people that are royally screwed with child support and alimony.
 

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So what about single men in that range? They are losers i guess because they were never divorced.
 

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Skel said:
So what about single men in that range? They are losers i guess because they were never divorced.

It's hard to market to smart, independent people.

And as far as women are concerned, there are two major factors I see. It's hard to wrap a smart, independent man around their little finger, so the modern "pants wearing" woman is put off. The other factor is that since a man 'hasn't married yet', there is a bandwagon belief of sorts that goes: "Since he hasn't married yet, there must be something 'wrong' with him." As if a man is flawed for not having jumped a broom before 30. This is why women are quick to ask, "So, why haven't you been married?" They want to figure out that "flaw" because they assume there is one.
 

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It's hard to market to smart, independent people.

And as far as women are concerned, there are two major factors I see. It's hard to wrap a smart, independent man around their little finger, so the modern "pants wearing" woman is put off. The other factor is that since a man 'hasn't married yet', there is a bandwagon belief of sorts that goes: "Since he hasn't married yet, there must be something 'wrong' with him." As if a man is flawed for not having jumped a broom before 30. This is why women are quick to ask, "So, why haven't you been married?" They want to figure out that "flaw" because they assume their is one.
I whole heartedly agree.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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So... maybe, DJing all the way until you are 30 isnt such a bright idea afterall. I can think of a few threads maybe i need to bump up :D
 

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while i havent been married, i did date/live with a girl that had BPD. she pulled out all the stops. all other girls and their **** tests are jr league compared to that ****.
 

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It's like getting an advanced degree in how women work isn't it?
 

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I refuse to see my having never been married as a negative thing.

Instead, I see myself as Neo on the roof dodging bullets.

"How did you do that?"
V: "Do what?"
"You move like they do."
:whistle:
 

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I refuse to see my having never been married as a negative thing.

Instead, I see myself as Neo on the roof dodging bullets.

"How did you do that?"
V: "Do what?"
"You move like they do."
:whistle:
Sweet.. :rockon:

But in this case, who would "they" be?
 

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Skel said:
So what about single men in that range? They are losers i guess because they were never divorced.
wouldnt that be that they are losers because something must be wrong with them if they never got married at all by that age?
i mean things may or may not work out in every relationship, however when a woman meets a man in his mid 30s and he says hes never been married... we automatically think "omigod does he still live in his moms basement? does he have some bacholer pad with a revolving door of ex's? has he ever been serious before? whats wrong with him?"
its true, we sterotype people too fast.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Sweet.. :rockon:

But in this case, who would "they" be?
You know, I balked at that myself. I would have to say the agent would represent societal pressures such as media, marketing, peers, etc. and the agent would be churning out bullets which represented women/relationships, and the couple of nicks Neo got would be "close calls". But the gun... hmm. The whole dating scene? Society holds the gun, right?

If I "move like they do", I would say that I understand which "laws could be bent, others, broken" and use this knowledge to oppose and work around the "agents". Can ya dig it?

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its true, we sterotype people too fast.
*GASP!*

*GASP!*

*Thanks himself for putting (can you guess who?) on his 'ignore list'*

Oh boy, penkitten, grab your umbrella... there's a sh!tstorm a'brewin'.
 

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It's hard to market to smart, independent people.

And as far as women are concerned, there are two major factors I see. It's hard to wrap a smart, independent man around their little finger, so the modern "pants wearing" woman is put off. The other factor is that since a man 'hasn't married yet', there is a bandwagon belief of sorts that goes: "Since he hasn't married yet, there must be something 'wrong' with him." As if a man is flawed for not having jumped a broom before 30. This is why women are quick to ask, "So, why haven't you been married?" They want to figure out that "flaw" because they assume there is one.
OH SH!T !!!
PERFECT
 

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OH SH!T !!!
PERFECT
Ya think? Then why is it so that you hear women sitting around in circles chanting:

"There are no good 'men' left"?

Define "good".
Define "man".
Define "left".

Society has women completely warped. What if the only good men WERE the one's left? What if? Duh? Hello? Isn't it obvious? The one's left didn't fvck up in the first place. How do I mean? Consider for a moment a religious standpoint, morals, and the fact that people who got divorced straight-up lied. They made a commitment, and failed to carry it out: that's a flake in my book.

But hey, I just keep telling myself this for the sake of my own sanity. Please, no offense to the guys here who are divorced, I don't mean to "attack" divorced people. I'm merely pointing out the ridiculous value perceptions.
 

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Vulpine said:
*GASP!*

*GASP!*

*Thanks himself for putting (can you guess who?) on his 'ignore list'*

Oh boy, penkitten, grab your umbrella... there's a sh!tstorm a'brewin'.
the reality of it is, everyone stereotypes someone in their own way.
you know it and i know it, and everyone else knows it too.
society brainwashes everyone.
what i said, was generally what most women i know think when they first meet a man who has never been married before by the time he is in his mid 30s.
i never said it was wrong to wait, and i never said it was wrong or right to be divorced. i personally feel like people should do whatever they need to do to make themselves better people in this life.
 
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