Hey sup ive had some history with this girl im dating tommorow. My personality has been flirtatious and C+F always with her.

- I got to know her and she seemed semi interested. I had a gf
later
- shed always ask about me and my gf
- when me and my girl split shed ask if id found a new gf several times
- I pursued her with random txt msgs here-and-there for while (half interested in her) and eventually got a date
- She doesnt tell me that she has a bf
- Later i get a date with her and we are talkin about bfs/gfs she then brings up on the date that she DOES have one, she also wondered WHY there wasnt anyone else with us on the date. (she expected more people and seemed a lil awkward cos she has a bf) - We go halves on the bill
- Later i ask her to a movie. She only wants to come if other people come because her bf got angry when he found out it was just me and her
- about 2 weeks later SHE asks ME to go to a movie and lies to her boyfriend that shes seeing it with girlfriends
- During the movie date i try to indirectly alienated her bf using various methods (hes 30 and shes 21). She gave me the fuel for it really by telling me he wants to marry her.. i busted her balls saying "no wonder youre always busy and never go out.. just because your bf is a grandpa dont mean u have to be".. we also talked indepth about how people just follow a set guide of life eg "study, job, car, wife, house, matching towels, dog, kids, die".. i said she should live life more... I got this vibe from her like she really DUG that about me.. i could tell that shes lonely and her bf probably puts alot of **** in her head about things - I Paid for the movie, but i made her hold the popcorn.. i also spilled the popcorn on her twice accidently and we were in tears of laughter.. she thought it was funny cos i kept stressing how it was a date and she had to impress me and i just did somethin real goofy TWICE... After the movie she wanted to go eat dinner with me.. she clearly WASNT DONE hanging out with me.. but i cut it short anyway..

- I do a performance infront of 500 odd people and its awesome.. shes in the audience and sends this jock riding txt telling me im so great and handsome and that she really wants to practise with me and my group (2 people) she stressed this several times on different days (she previously had no interest in practising with us before when we had no fame). A few more txt exchanges of me saying she can have an autograph and i might be too busy for her now cos im so famous etc.. she eats it up.. and responds in her c+f way.. its cool

- Yesterday online she ASKS me out again!. i say sure and she said 'either friday or saturday ill txt u'.. i say fine.. today she txts and we setup the date... during the chat she said, quote "next year i can dance more cos i wont have a bf".. i asked if they split and she said 'no but hell be in japan'..

during that 2nd date to the movies i alienated her bf by just having this reaction to when she told me "my bfs going to japan".. she was already worried he might hook with girls while over there and i emphasised it a little without really saying anything .. she felt it!

SO tommorow.. I got a date.. its dinner.. This chick has gone from 'no interest' to 'maybe wanting to but respects her bf eenough not to go out 1on1 with me' to 'shes fine with lying to her bf and coming out with me'..

I dunno what it is.. I mean we are the same age (22) and have fun.. her bf is 30 and theyre arnt that strong.. on one date i said would she be said if he dumped her tommorow and she sad no lol...

How would you play this one tommorow?? Right now im thinking to just treat her like a single girl ALL the way.. make the date fun as absoloutly possible.. **** she never experiences with her dad.. i mean bf..

advice??

What do you want... reaffirmation/assurance that it'll all work out? It's obvious she likes you, or is using you as an experiment to actually see if she's ready for wifehood by tasting the lusss greens of another garden.

What do you want? You want to bed her? Then try. You want to be in love with her? Then try.

The fact that she is on a date with you means she ready for anything, even if her mind is clouded, you just have to stir her the right way.

Wow...

Great JOB!! Seriously i wish i had your skills.. hmm, it made me feel a bit sad, cus this is prolly what happened with my ex, and i wonder what it is u have to do as the boyfriend to keep girls from doin these sort of things behind their backs and actually keeping them interested lol. .anyways...

Well i mean, im not really great at tips i havnt given any advice to anyone on this forumn and im willing to try to help you out cus you helped me out.. but ive read and i think this is true, that its bad to spend TOO much time with a girl.. so make sure ur not doing that. and you should definetly ESCALATE THINGS a bit.. definetly... be a man take control you know, otherwise she might see the same ol same ol so maybe shes waitin for u to make a move? otherwise she wouldnt be so interested in u its obvious she wants to sleep with you in bed. so ya keep us posted about what happends next

anointed said:

**** she never experiences with her dad.. i mean bf..

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Show a little bit of respect. You don't even know the guy, so have a bit of class and treat him like you would anyone else.

Anyway, she's just a girl, if you want it, go for it. If you must have her, don't play the situation differently just for the sake of playing it differently.

Her character traits suck. Her current boyfriend is just a time killer, an emotional filler until she moves on to somone else. Otherwise, why is she with him?

You will be in his shoes soon enough.

Good luck

alright thanks guys. Shes going overseas for a while too soon. Shes an overseas student. Shes alreayd shown alot of interest in kickin it with me next year while her bf is away (when she will aslo be back from her visit home)...but since i like a challenge im going to try get something going before she goes in 2 or so weeks. coooool...i wana hit it but i dont care if i fail.. im aiming for a full on kino escalation in 2 hours.. just thinking of a good location to do this...ill let ya know how it goes.

so we went out the other night to dinner then later some of my friends were gona go clubbing so we went to dinner, then i left and i picked her up at midnight and we went out.. got tipsy.. she bought a few tequilas for us, knowing shed be drunk! (maybe that was the extra push she needed).. then we danced.. i drove her home.. we talked.. we made out in the car..

the way i swayed her was i told her she should follow her feelings and her heart not her head.. n that kinda stuff.. she ate it up..

the next day she mentioned she was gona watch a movie alone.. i went over to her place.. we chilled.. held hands during the movie.. made out.. had sex.. her ASD was ON OFF ON OFF throughout.. she must have said "No wait stop.. im sorry.." like 5 times.. and i was just runnin game with "the reason i like u is cos ur brave enough to follow ur heart and ur instincts".. she ate this kinda stuff up..and started rationalizing it in her head like "yea ur right.. this is what i feel" (ie: shes horny she wants to fvck) then when id kiss her again shed get in the mood.. then she was like "lets goto the bedroom".. so we went.. she had this look on her face like "what am i doing" but was also giving me MAD compliments about my looks how i make her feel etc.. we got freaky for like 2 hours..once in the room the ASD stopped and it was full onnnn.. best sex ever.. she let loose.. when i left she msg me sayin how great it was and how my tenderness made her like me more..

she wants it but she doesnt want it.. I dunno how i can fully sway her to be honest.. shes constantly questioning what she wants with me i think. although she does txt me alot now and we have a date this week... Its odd.. This situation seems to sum up the "Dont listen to what she says, watch waht she does" tip in a nutshell!

I think shes waiting for me to offer what i got in words.. but i dont wana do that.. although i do want her.. i dont wana put my cards on the table nad be like "Well im here for u if u dump him".. part of me thinks thats what she wants to know (hav hold of one branch before jumpin off the one shes got type of thing).. altho by doing that i could be throwing my cards on the table and being AFC..

any advice?