Met a girl and kissed at the party, how do i make her my gf?? NEW DATE DETAILS!!!!!!!

Hey everyone i am new as you can see, i was having this concern and i was trying to talk about it to my friend but he pointed me to this website and said i should ask here so i am REALLY hoping u guys can help me!!

heres the deal.. Went to a party the other night, from 12 am to 4 am, met this girl at about 3 in the morning, we chilled, talked a bit with other friends, danced one song. Talked some more, then it was time for her and her friend to go. So my friend said he'd take them home (he liked the asian girl, i danced with the mexican girl). The mexican girl wanted me to go with them but i didnt feel like it.. So then... oops.. my friend said i should put what they are.. Asian is like a 4 lol jk shes like a 7.. the mexican is like an 8... anyways i dunno my frend says shes a 9 but im not really into asians.. back to the point.. ok so the mexican wants me to go but i dont want to. so they leave. she doesnt hug me good bye or nothing lol.. ididnt care. sothen like 4 min later she comes back looking for me, so then im like ahhh ok ill go. So me and my friend go right.. we talk in the car, we hug them, drop them off. THE END. just as i suspected. oh .. these girls were both 17..


ME and my friend go back to the party, get a call from them sayin they wanna chill since theire parents arent awake (they are friends but the friend was staying at her friends house).. so we go back to pick them up, we chill, we ride around the city, and then we go up to the mountains (during all these im being amazingly funny and givin them a good time well at least my date, cant lie about this one, but my friends date fell asleep in the car on him (sorry lol). ok.. so then anyways, she points to her cheek to kiss her AND I KNEW WHERE THIS WAS GOING!!!.. so then basicall we begin to make out (Sooo good), for about 15 minutes.

Shes on top of me kissing and sucking my neck its all back and forth, i began to try to run my hands around her to her butt but she didnt let me so i tried later didnt let me again so i just stopped completely. She tried to put her hands up my shirt but i stopped her and told her she cant take advantage me on the first night. (is this a stupid thing idid, my friend said iwas stupid for doing this but guys let me know critique me please!)

this is getting too long.. going to the point. after making out for like 25 minutes, she falls asleep in my arm, my friends date finally wakes up so we kick it for another 3 hours by this time it was 10 pm, we went tothe park etc just talked no more kissing (i felt as if the girl i was with just was being standoffisih cus when she woke up in thecar she wasnt really talkingto me so i stopped trying to kiss her and stuff cus i ddnt wanna seem needy. so yeah since then nothing special at all. we take them home, i hug her twice, and that was it. no kiss. i didnt try to lay one on her same reason cus i didnt wanna seem needy. was i stupid for doing this?? i dunno i just got this vibe from her that said (ok just cus we kissed doesnt mean we're bf and gf now and it was just a fling... ???) i dunno??? guys help me out plz whats going on im not use to this... i dont have much expeirnce... at all...the vibe of course could be me being negative but she was really sweet and nice the entire night... but just after we did our thing she wasnt all over me anymore... wel she never was but i mean... she didnt try to kiss me again... am i supposed to be like really agressive??

p.s, this girl kinda of hinted that we weer just friends but then again of course we are.. but i think she might be a player (she goes to tons of parties) although i found out her last bf was like 2 months, of a total of 2 months, her longest relationship was a year... and yeah we are going on a date again tonite the 2 girls and me and my friend... so guys, i really need u to give me advice for this girl to be chasing after me and actually WANTING me to be her new man...shes gamin me i think so help me game her guys cmon!

> She tried to put her hands up my shirt but i stopped her and told her she cant take advantage me on the first night.

That's what you must do. You could have added "Hey, I didn't even finish kissing you.." <-- from David DeAngelo

Ok. So you want her to feel attracted to you or not? If you wanted a one night stand you should have f-closed her. I just hope you got her number.
Call her back a few days later (not so quick) and by the time try to meet other women because you're on the path of what we call oneisit.

So tell her something like this : "I'm going to have fun (somewhere) and I just thought you might come along, since you're a good friend." If she's into you she will come. Take here to a beautiful place, do the talking, let her prove she's into you then bring her at your place or her place....

Don't forget your protections and to have fun. If you're not having fun stop at once.

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vivi

o0o0o excellent advice nvictor i love it. yeah i couldnt f close her becuase shes a virgin lol... errr... im not so concerned about having sex cus i know she wont, which is strange, shes been to tons and tons of parties (basically give me the idea she was a crazy party girl), but shes never had sex.. so she has some sort of control and respect forherself. im concerned about making her my girl. but you're completely right, i told myself in the shower to not get too attached or get your hopes up.

But we are going on a date tonite. how do i act?? as a friend? or be like baby this baby that like she is my baby, and be smooth and hold her hand / arms around her and try to kiss her? this is all confusing to me, because i dont know if doing that makes you seem needy? god so many confusions...


p.s, i have this friend who was also at the party i think she likes him (not the same guy who drove her home), cus she was talkin about him in the car and talking to him at the party and he was all drunk and theyve known eachother for a week.. and he told her to not call her again and she doesnt like him anymore (But of course she prolly does if she is mad at him).. i hate it.. how my friend is involved with so many women.. hes a short ogre... the only good thing about him is hes a singer.. anyways im not trying to hate or nothin. but iwant to have this girls attention on me and be intersted in me and calling me all thet ime etc etc... (She doesnt have my # cus i told her ididnt have a phone.. lol.. which is true..) ok so im hoping you guys will help me out. thanks in advance.

your putting 2 much importance on her and your mindset is totally out of whack. You just met her and you know **** all about her so why do you want to label yourself as bf/gf and put all that restriction on yourself.. cos thats all labels do.

also dont hesitate your actions so much. If you wana kiss her do it, if you wana hug her do it, if you wana drop her do it. A chick will read your hesitation and wussyness.. you just do it man... be SELF ASSURED! ASSUME SHE LIKES YOU, ASSUME SHE WANTS YOU TO KISS HER.. this should be your personality. Assume the positive.. i mean she has the hots for you, u dont even have to assume it cos she was all over ur ass.. you KNOW it.. so why question it.. Its not like shes gonna say "Why the hell are you kissing me?" is it.. cos you were just kissing earlier.. that wouldnt make sense..

act like self assured man, and let her prove herself to You.. dont fall head over heals to early.. its the biggest turn off to woman more than anything. The way i see it you were making out in the car, she woke up it must have been 3am? and you judged her when she seemed to be tired and wanting to go home.. bad move... go on this date.. when you see her kiss her and tell her she looks sexy.. but on her a little but keep it funny.. then at some point in the meeting you go for a walk or SOMETHING to a shop near by or something, say you wana get something.. and you hold her from the get go!! and kiss her during your little isolated trip.. you DO have to be dominant.. maybe slip in a comment about how some girl was hitting on your earlier and txting you 24/7 and gauge her response to that.. see if shes jelous or wahteve.r.

Seriously man.. sounds like your slipping into oneitis.. of course if you kiss, it doesnt mean your bf/gf.. it doesnt really mean **** unless you follow up on it...Just be chill... it sounds like you did good on that night.. but dont blow it..

another technique you will wanna do is when you see her talk about the night.. get her BACK in the state of mind she was in .. ask her if she thought it was fun etc and if her parents were awake.. Say if shes lucky she might get to kiss you again later lol.. just take her mind back to the frame it was at when she was all over you..and then get it on with her again..

ow do i act?? as a friend? or be like baby this baby that like she is my baby, and be smooth and hold her hand / arms around her and try to kiss her?

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I know you were kidding when you asked that question huh?? yes hold hand.. kiss .. touch.. do it within the first 3 mins of meeting.. u have to hold her.. grab her hand and hold it and say "i love your ring.. its got a cool design.. i didnt know the 2 dollar shop was having a sale".. lol i always use that line.. its good C+F push/pull and youll get a hit on the arm from it..

friend?? come on man.. i know ur kidding right.. atleast u got a sense of humour lol

DonDan,

Well if she is virgin, that will be complicated... But for the party advice, don't stay with her all the time, enjoy the party, dance with other girls, talk with your friends, etc...

Take her somewhere there aren't alot of people and ligths. Kiss her. Talk to her in a funny way. The idea is to make the night memorable. For example try to guess couples that are going to break up tonight make comparisons. I always try to mix serious and fun... and she will love it.

For the virginity part, I can't really answer you. To tell you the truth I'm looking for some oral sex books, since I've also have a virgin on my list.

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vivi

LMAO, anointed that thing about the ring was hilarious... i wanna learn to push pull, how do you do it?? cus i know it is important to get their feelings mixed about you and not have them completley know you're into them right? but i wasnt kidding lol, i thought acting like a friend would make her chase after me... and make me seem like im not needy.. ehh i obviously have much to learn.

nvictor thanks i know it will be complicated but i mean, i actually like it because it makes me feel shes clean and not a slut and stuff.. but your party advice i will use it as advice for tonite, i mean, hmm... maybe i can get her away from everything once and then kiss her and make out.. but iwonder how i would lead into this.. in a smooth way...

another thing , my friend told my friend i was player last night itpissed me off CUS ITS NOT EVEN TRUE! this is the first time i ever hooked up with anyone at the party and i got lucky i think... well its just im not very out going for some reason i dont have much confidence in myself but when i get to know the girl i come right out of my shell right away and they love it.. but its hard to stay in that mode when im starting to fall for her... :\

i told her like last night about how my friend kicked me out cus girls were always goin afterm e when they came over and just stuff like that, and she told me she doesnt even care .. and it made me feel bad kinda like she didnt care if i moved on or not lol..

why should she care you just met..

its hard to stay in that mode when im starting to fall for her...

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then why are you falling for her?? Come on man this isnt a disney movie. In reality prince charming goes home to whack off while the dark knight fugs the **** out of the beautiful princess.. thats how it goes..

push pull commetns are when you give a compliment and just as they think you are all about them you take the compliment away. You need to be witty to do it, it takes a lil work but its great.. Im sure theres a few examples around hre somewhere... like that one "Youre the prettiest girl in this place... actually wait *look around*.. ok the 4th prettiest.. im just gona call you 'number 4' from now on... ok maybe number 3 since you have funny shoes on and i like funny people"...

cant you see the mentality you get with those comments?? The girl will unknowningly try to validate herself to you, evne if she dont even like you.. and then u work it more.. read the DJ bible man before you go out just a few articles.. like on kino, C+F and conversation..

your goals for the date are:
1) initiate kino immediately!!
2) talk to her about last time.. tell her you liked her vampire neck bites but to ease up a little.. then throw in a comment like ""its ok i remember my first kiss too.. youll get better".. bust her balls.. but the MAIN goal is to get her in the mindset that she WAS in
THEN
3) escalate the kino and guage her interest more..AND KISS her you HAvE to KISS her man
4) get her number if u havnt already

Also dont assume shes a virgin just cos she says she is.. a boyfriend for one year?? thats a long time..even 2 months is..any guy who hasnt hit it after a year is a retard.. literally.. DONT believe it till you SEE It..

Dont listen to what she says watch what she does <-- golden rule. relates to a number of things

all great advice.

just like to add...this reminds me of "Night at the Roxberry".

OMFG... ANOINTED. I WISH ITOOK UR ADVICE BEFORE THE DATE ... I JUST GOT BACK AN HOUR AGO...


OK FOR STARTERS TO GET IT OUT OF THE WAY, THE DATE WAS A COMPLETE DISASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ill describe it after i get my pizza brb..


I made like.. a thousand mistakes tontie.. FIRST MISTAKE.. never take girls out on a date when its a school night. they will want to go home when things just get started. ok now time to begin this horrible disaster of a date.


Ok, me and my friend pick them up at the gas station, they got in the car, i didnt even get a chance to hug the girl... well, they were waiting outside for like 2 minutes talking to us and im like get in the car lets go! maybe they were outside so we can step out and hug them??

ok, so its really simple actually. basically we didnt know what to do. i wanted to go to the movies, but then again i didnt, we went to a park again and they had basebal lights.. so we were talkin havin fun this and that (my friends date they werent even talking at all tonite which is strange)... so yeah, we were at the park and i was talking to the other girl askin her age blah blah blah and my date was like why are you talking to her !! (my friend wasnt so i told her that iwas just finding out info for him).. ****ING MISTAKE. so itold them this is gay so lets go some place else so my date got in front of the car, ****!!! so i was in the back with the other girl. so i was talking to both of them talking havin fun with them making them laugh etc etc. my friend was just talking to my date wtf?? so then anyways yeah i was telling the grl in the back secrets and **** i dunno why damnit. lets see if i can remember this clealy.. well basically, i was just being a "Friend".. no kino no kissing no NOTHING.. well i hugged her and smelled her a few times she laughed.. but then i dunno what happened to be honest.. she became standoffish.. i dont wnana make this sound the way it seems obviosu cus it really isnt, i really dont understand what happened.. i was just having a good time.. so then we had **** to do we just drove around for like an hour and a half.. my date was like falling asleep cus she was bored dunno why i began to try to talk to her she was being a complete btch so i just left her a alone and talked tothe other girl for a bit, she was totally diggin me and was into me. she was mexican as well.. they were both mexicans. OH YEAH, this isnt the same girl from last night, well my date is, but my friends date is another girl. this girl was about a 8.5, better looking than my date.

anyways, so things went down down down hill... i told my date to come in the back seat that she wouldnt fall asleep if she did but she didnt wnat to.. so then i was like ok.. just bored.. i stopped talking to the other girl cus i got bored and into a shtty mood a bit cus i was hopin to do somethin with my date tonite.. so then from there it was about 9:30, i said lets go see saw 3!!! so we were goin to the movies then our dates said they had to be home by 10:30, so we took them ... and then their parents began to call and ***** at them... (never take a girl out on a date on a school night errr)...

so then i was like gd damnit well i wanna do somethnig no way im goin home after we just did nothing but drive!! so i saw agaunted house and we went there... it was fun.. my date woke right up.. and she was having fun i bought her a ticket cus they had no money it was 10 bucks i had 20, my friends date bought him a ticket... so then yeah, in the gaunted house I THOUGHT IT WAS THE PERFECT TIME FOR KINO... so then we were holding eachother had my arms around her and such cus she was so scared, but then wtf??! she begins to JUST FCKING START HOLDING MY FRIENDS HAND AND SHT... so then yeah i was like ok whatever so i was in the back and then it was completely dark, and i found out afterwards that the mexican girl my friends date was holding my hand and i thought it was my date.. and im like wtf?? so then we took them home... dropped em off.. then we dropped off my date, i was like so fckin in a bad mood.. i wasnt even planning to hug my date or nothing, but ididnt wanna seem like a baby or something.. so i got out .. hugged her and held on.. and then shes like ok brother and she laughed and said jk.. and she hugged me.. and im like give me a kiss.. and she pulled her face away and said nooo.. so then im like are u seirous?? i just spent 10 dollars on you tonite.. and she looked at me and smiled.. and yeah i had this pissed off face on my face couldnt help it and i regret it... so she gave me a peck on the lips.. and im like ok ill give u my # , when i get a phone, so good night.. ( i also regret not taking action and being a man and grabbing her face to kiss me longer).. so she sprinted off (oh yeah she didnt hug my friend just gave him high 5...)

OK THATS IT... gd damnit.. i want to get with her... but then again, i dont even want to spend my time on her. cus im afraid its going no where?? so whats goin on guys help me out plz?? HELPPPPPPPPPPP

i feel as if her sitting in the front seat comepletly ruined my chances with her from the get go... and it was her decision.. i mean.. if hse was into me.. she would have at least tried to sit with me right? try to kiss me and sht?? right??? maybe she isnt into me........ mabe im just becoming a g4y friend.... i spent haunted house wrong so many times.. im on a laptop..


but guys i would really appreciate your help... do i just forget about her??


I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHINGH.. maybe the cause ofthis...

i think this was a mistake now.. well.. i dunno how or what isaid, but i remmeber i was like leaning to the front of the seat where my date was sitting, ehhh i forgot .. idont wanna say it and be wrong.. but what i know is.... i was smelling her hair again andthen she got her hands and pushed my face back.. and i was like wtf, just for that im not kissing u tonite.. and then she was like omg u are acting like ur kisses are so speccial and i was bein ****y and funy (i think).. and i played it off good.. we were at the gas station, andthen i got out cus i had the piss, the 2 girls stayed in the car, i opened my dates car and told her to come out she didnt want to.. and i asked her what she wanted any snacks? she started telling me what she wanted and i slammed the dor on her and told her to shut the fck up...

lol.. was that a mistake... ???? serously her being in the front destroyed my chances instantly...

double post sorry..

man dont look at the details it aint all bad but it can be.. its getting there..

first thing you gotta do is PICK A GIRL! not both! especially friends cos they will ***** about you whichever friend misses out.

who has highest IL in you

your date : did kiss u at the end so its fine.. but she was pissed that you were giving her friend attention and she gave you only one chance.. harsh..

the other girl : held your hand.. could be a goer but i think higher risk than the your date

your friend : at first i thought hes an ass, but you took his girl so he took the hand of yours..

PICK ONE.. NUMBER.. DATE ONE ON ONE

**** the group dates from here oon out for a while

I guess ur right.. but damnit, i think my date is a player.. i didnt wanna risk the chance of being all over her and then get rejected u know? i was keepin it cool but ehh i dunno, she did kiss me at the end, but then again, i failed to mention this, but after i said i spent 10 dollars on her and she smiled.. shes like, ur right, that would be messed up if i didnt kiss you... so yeah, could be a petty kiss???

and her friend held my hand out of her free will, i thought i was holding my dates.. i dunno whats wrong with me but come to think of it i dont remember my date holding my friends hand, it was his arm, i extremely remember her grabbing a hold of his back and crap.. but yeah, thanks a lot for replying, at least u care to help, i mean i dont get it, people post in threads about farting and crap like that , but when it comes to a guy who is seeking some advice about a woman would hope to get some help u know? biut i seriously appreciate ur help. i wish i could date one and one but no car...

another thing i failed to mention, we were supposed to go out on a date last night, i got all ready and crap lookin good, and then i called my friend and at the last minute he said my date told him that her friend couldnt go she was grounded or something?? i was pissed, but i found out today on thedate that it was a complete lie, and she said she was sorry for practically blowing us off lately, i played it off sayin its all good friend had other plans that night anyways.. but i found out instead of kickin it with us, she AND HER FRIEND (WHO WAS NOT GROUNDED) went to kcik it at some dudes house.. who are like 25+.. these guys throw parties and stuff and theyre always kickin it with teenagers.. and then she said they just watched a movie, and then my friends date told me she didnt like the guy that he was hitting on her.. this guy is like 5 feet tall and 200 pounds lol.. but anyways just had to mention that, so maybe its a good thing i acted the way i did tonite? or not?


i dont know maybe im missing something or maybe im not being aggressive enough?? what do u guys think?

Id do one of these.. or if 2 dont work id do 1.. cos 1 is more risky... but then by doing 1 after 2 you run the risk of girl 2 talking sh*t to girl 1 like "you were his 2nd choice" etc etc

1) call the friend:- say whats up, ask her out. If your origonal date can flake on you you can flake on her. It was just a night of kissing afterall and she didnt follow up so this shouldnt really be a problem, you doing this. However if she finds out she could make it an issue cos she will hate it if you give up on her and snag her friend instead and b*tches are notorious for trying to wreck **** like that... SO be a little open and honest about things and if she agrees and shows high IL then tell her to just keep it hush hush from the origonal girl.

or

2) Keep at girl one. Call her and ask her to go out, bust on her and bring up somewhere that the other girl was holding your hand willingly.. ask her "do you think your friend likes me? she was holding my hand whats the deal".. shell most likely contimplate this in her head and then inturn her IL might rise just because of the competition factor (yes even with friends this happens). Also mention that your frined looked lonely thats why you were talking to her but all the while you were thinking of kiss her (origonal date) again. MAKE sure though that you say this in a way were u arnt seeking validation (Important)..

maybe casually "yea those guys wernt even talking i felt awkward and sorry for your friend that nobody was talkin to her.. i actually wish it was you in the back with me though.. but then again you are pretty aggressive.. you had me pinned down girl".. this has to be casual.. see how she responds... she will laugh most likely... then ask her on a date..

Just meet up somewhere man i think this is important.. meet up one on one.. some how.. get a ride get a bus it dont matter.. goto a movie then after the movie walk around and go sit somewhere and makeout.. right now u dont need a car u just need to establish one of the girls as the girl youre fvckin.. so meetu p and make out.. THEN plan another date with the group or whatever and that way u already hav ur girl right there ESTABLISHED.. without any bullshyt

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Troll i'm assuming. Save yourself 10 seconds of your life, and don't even bother flaming me.

OMFG.. THINKING ABOUT IT MORE AND MORE.. I KNOW WHAT MADE HER TURN INTO SOUR IN OUR DATE.. WHEN WE WERE AT THE PARK.. WE WERE SITTING AT THE BENCH... AND I WAS TALKING ONE AND ONE WITH HER FRIEND, AND SHES LIKE WHY ARE U TALKING TO MY FRIEND, AND I TOLD HER WHY, SHE TRIED TO SIT DOWN NEXT TO ME ON THE END OF THE BENCH AND I PUSHED HER AWAY, THEN SHES LIKE LET ME SIT DOWN, THEN SHE lol ooops.. then she sat next to me and scooted over to me like 5 times too close.... and then yeah.. damn serously i fcked up.. we went to the car and thats why she sat in the front...

anointed im going to do #2... well its a challenge right?? im thinking of calling he tomorrow i know i should wait longer but i mean, i was goin to call her to grab her myspace so i can just hit her up on that or bad idea? how long sould i wait?? i know my friend will be coo about goin on another date seeing how he really digs the asian girl who was grounded and couldnt make it tonite... but yeah... on the weekend... ill see i guess.. but i really need to learn some game before then cus i wana make things happen, anointed ur really cool thanks alot for takin the time to help me out do you have msn or something??