I stummbled across this forum today and I found it rather dissapointing. I must say from the archives I found one really good article on how to attract women and ya know, it sounded pretty fair and far from dillusional. Upon viewing the other attitudes and perspectives here I have this advice to share...

All the man haters out there and all the women bashers deserve each other. Yes, thats right! For every "Harem Collector" there shall be a "Gold Digger". For every "bimbo" a "crotch scratcher".

Then for every guy here that has truly been burned by a deranged woman... Im sorry! However I've noticed guys and chics alike often dont get better from such experiences they simply get bitter. Its more then ironic when the broken hearted grow into the very people that hurt them... and then lash out at someone totally innocent or underserving as they once were.

Hey learn from your mistakes! Evolve! Dont turn into that b!tch and then hurt someone else cause your'e all ass sore about it.

Lets face it, in general women try to fix their insecurities with a bunch of materialistic crap like $1,000 dollar guchi bags or prada sunglasses.

In general I think a lot of men try to resolve their self esteem issues or fix their personal problems with sex.

Women whine that they want a man to want them for them... not because they are purely hot and f*ckable. But because they feel to be worth something other then just a pu$$y.

Men whine that they want to be respected and loved yet instead of earning anything they flash their wallet or credit cards faster than their integrity or depth of character.

The more dumb games you play with a woman expect more dumb games in return! Theres nothing that mysterious about the sexes! The context is different in a lot of ways but all the problems are the same.

Men and women alike need to stop looking outside themselves for validation and self worth. Lets try not to be so desperate! Everything is some stupid status game, who is the biggest wh0re, alpha male, and a bunch of other crap that through example alone we teach our younger generation to repeat.

To the "Don Juans" here that are more ego then genuine substance... expect exactly what you promote. Just like all the dumb bimbos out there...

To the potentially cool guys on this board I hope you find someone real and worth while! A woman who not only excites you and you consider a friend, but a woman who encourages you to be a man... but more so a decent human being.

Inthemiddle said:

In general I think a lot of men try to resolve their self esteem issues or fix their personal problems with sex.

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Thats so true that it hurts. I get the feeling most guys here don't even LIKE women- they just want one for the ego boost and social status.

"I hope you find someone real and worth while! A woman who not only excites you and you consider a friend, but a woman who encourages you to be a man... but more so a decent human being."

I think that should be the mission statement of this place. That is DEFINATELY the sum and substance of what I should be looking for. A woman that :

> I'm excited with
> Has a genuine connection with
> Encourages me to grow as a person

Amen dude. Good post.

There's a certain maturity and wisdom in this post that's lacking in majority of the posts on this forum. I agree wholeheartedly!

The more dumb games you play with a woman expect more dumb games in return!

Men and women alike need to stop looking outside themselves for validation and self worth. Lets try not to be so desperate! Everything is some stupid status game, who is the biggest wh0re, alpha male, and a bunch of other crap that through example alone we teach our younger generation to repeat.

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Again, this is something people learn eventually as they mature and grow in experience. Well said!

good advice man but your post is quite mature for most people here to grasp no infact it sound like sometyhing an oldman would say. times are different women play more pointless games get it man.. women play more games than men even when they get old. when i say old i mean 30. lol. we can stop the games but women are masters at playing stupid pointless mind games thats why most men threat them like toys.if they stop thier games things might change. lemmi tell you this generation is the most fuked up wen it somes to relationships and being direct about your feelings to someone. this newage warrants that games be played. you seem to place the blame on men alone.

Im not exactly 30, more like 26... but I guess thats getting there.

Heres the deal...

My advice to Skeeloo is this... your post suggests that when the "other" people stop playing games, is when YOU will stop playing games. This isnt recess man... I dont know how old you are but raise your standrads when it comes to your ladies and perhaps you'll find you wont be wasting your time or playing juvenile crap.

I've met dudes, that for the life of them (just like the chics) can not walk away from a bad thing. Theres all kinds of reasons for this... some explanations are more shallow than others. Some are more deeper rooted with other psychological things.

I think women and men are EQUALLY to blame (but forgetting what junk youre sporting I can place blame on any individual and their actions... I dont have to know their sex to know if they are doing something smart or stupid).

But heres the deal... if youre gonna go play basketball with 5 year olds, vs highschoolers, vs the NBA the game is gonna feel totally different right? So put down the ball and leave to a better court so to speak... you dont have to play with the dumb chics...

However if you play into those games, the same as the lame women that endorse them... then you are no better than them. You simply encourage them or you hurt someone totally underserving of it.

The same can be said for the women! There are plenty of girls that get burned and yet instead of rising to the occasion to live life better... they turn around and burn a guy... play some games cause someone else played them. Which is a lame reason all together.

Look, anyone can have a relationship, anyone can go get f*cked... just watch the Jerry Springer Show! But it doesnt mean its worth it! Women dont get that! They are so absorbed with relationships and their own personal hang ups that they dont see that maybe... just maybe these forced or unhealthy relationships dont mean CRAP.

Just like these men that go out and screw anything that moves... we all know that all pu$$y is pink on the inside. However it doesnt mean its worth your time to work it. Whats one orgasm from another?!

Sure its feels GREAT! I love it! But meth isnt so bad either (from what i hear) and riding a rollercoaster is not so bad either. But the point is this... women need to be more mature about it and so do men...

Dont wait for the world to change, or the female gender to start bending over backwards, when you raise your own standards and ways of doing things... then you'll attract higher quality women.

Sure the hot babes that you used to frequent will pass you by but you wont have the dumb games to play either.

There's a lot of good points in there, along with a few bad ones too...

I can tell you're still too nice and are probably single most of the time and get screwed over by chicks regularly.

So, how long has it been?

Im hardly nice, I just dont put up with bullsh!t! If Im dieing for some pu$$y its not as if its SOOOOO hard to get. There are plenty of chics at bars just waiting to get picked up! One night stands are easy bro...

Not only that but the women that are the most insecure, depressed, lonely, bored, and poor... are the easiest to hook in. Thats basic facts!

Being an a$$hole is easy!