Thoughts about David DeAngelo and Double your Dating? [merged threads]

[Thresh]

Hey all,
I live in Australia and i was thinking of getting the book. Since Australia's dollar is almost half of the American dollar, i figure this book will cost me near the $100 mark i have no credit card so money order http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/frown.gif

I was wondering if its worth the money?


how much did it help?
your rating out of 10?plz

thanks

[xblitz44x]

I actually bought the book myself. It's not bad, but not worth $100 dollars in my opinion.

It stresses being cocky and funny, not supplicating to women, and exactly what to do and say for approaches.

Basically, if you study this site and these boards you will get the same information. I say save your money and just sign up for his free newsletter.

-Blitz

[Track_Star]

Dont buy it, I did (but for under 40 bucks) and not only was there no new information that isnt common knowledge from this site, many of the claims they make about what the book will do arent even mentioned. Save your money, it can be better spent.

[Marquez]

I bought it before I came to this site, and didn't claim my money back. It was worth reading IMO, and cured my nice guy syndrome.

[Thresh]

k thanks for that guys, u guys may have just saved me 100 bucks!!!

[gekkoca]

I bought the online book.
It is simple and quite effective.
It has changed my life with women and people in general 10 fold.The news letter was even more helpful as it conditioned me and answered specific questions not in the book.
Basicly in a nutshell...it states.
Be cocky and funny...with a grin.Tease and flirt.Be confident be a challenge.Let her chase you more.The girl must blink first or you lose.Dont be a wuss EVER..

[gekkoca]

If you want a role model.
Watch Tom Cruise in Top Gun.
Until you are Tom Cruise..

[Doppler4000]

Subscribe to his free email newletter for awhile and you'll get a feel for his points. He's all about being confident and joking with and teasing girls that you meet (as if this is some kind of great revelation that he's discovered). And then when you're all done being this "cocky" guy, you stand there and ask for her email address.

[PIPE-DJ2002]

how about the new cds???
do u guys think its worth 195 dollars????

[BLuE eLf]

I have the ebook.. maybe we coud exchange some information!

[Bungo Pony]

I thing David is getting a bit greedy now. He started out with his book, and I had no problem in buying it. Now he's got the seminars and the CDs, and those aren't cheap!

If I put my whole journal on audio CDs, would anybody be interested in buying it? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/wink.gif

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I'm just happy to be here, happy to be alive,
And it don't matter if you're by my side,
I'm satisfied" - Travelling Wilburys

[hannibal82]

anyone have the actual CD's ? Maybe we could ummmmm...... hehe make some archival backups of them in case the person who owns them's house burns down or something http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[TesuqueRed]

Didn't those CDs just come out 2 days ago?

Anyway, $40 is a little steep but the material is fairly decent. He throws in a few pamphlets which focus on a select areas. I'm not sure how to value it--more expensive than Copeland and what's-his-name, less expensive (and maybe better org'd) than Doc Love's stuff.

Sign up for the newsletter. Stay tuned here, read the bible, get two other resourses (Copeland, Doc, 2X your dating...)---you're gonna spend the money anyway, get what you need, learn what you can and then start applying it.

$100 is too much. Cut a deal with someone.

[OzzyBoy]

I live in Australia too, best too try to buy Aussie stuff(and cheaper too) because stuff from overseas might be different because of different cultures and stuff like that, but Australia is so much like America it probably doesn't make a difference anyway.

[George Gordon]

gekkoca,

Role Model: Try Tyler Durden from Fight Club!

[MagiKMaK]

How many of you guys purchased the Double your dating book by david deangelo? and if you had... would you reccomend it?

[mistyc]

This must be like the 10th time this question has been asked this week.

[2N Turbo]

Originally posted by MagiKMaK:
How many of you guys purchased the Double your dating book by david deangelo? and if you had... would you reccomend it?

Think about it, whats 2 times 0. Why bother buying it?

J/k

[Janez]

I was thinking exactly the same thing when I first heard of this book. http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

[MagiKMaK]

Good, so this is a real question cuz two ppl wanna know!!! haha *bump* can sum1 give us an answer?

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Dun hate the player, hate the game...

[Heavyweight]

I bought DeAngelo's DYD and I think it's a fantastic product. It has definitely helped me improve my success with women and it was well worth the money.

Having said that, I think a lot of the guys that write in to his bi-weekly mailbag are making stuff up. These letters talk about how these guys just read his book and have bagged six women over the next three weeks. In the last mailbag, some guy said he read DeAngelo's book and then hooked up with 3 girls, bagged 1, and got 4 email addresses - all without getting rejected once.

Give me a break. Isn't a major part of being a DJ understanding that rejection is part of the game and learning to deal with it? In fact, I think that's the major hang up for most AFCs - a deathly fear of rejection. I just don't think that there's any magic pill - whether its DYD or 7 Magic Words or whatever - that eliminates rejection. I don't blame DeAngelo for printing this crap; he's obviously trying to sell his book . . . but come on, get real.

Further, maybe its just me, but getting good with girls takes a lot of practice. Like anything, you have to work to be great. I don't know if reading a book once and then running out and firing off lines you learned and a fake attitude will get you laid.

Once again, I want to say that I read and recommend the book - it's done a lot for me. But I think a lot of those letters are hyped up garbage.

[afterbuzz]

Yeah, I think some of the "success stories" are unrealistic. That said, the mailbag does provide a lot of good examples and advice.

[Idorus]

I'd like to hear thoughts about those who have read his work, his newsletters and who used his techniques.

I assume and believe his techniques works, especially the cocky and funny part.

But what about getting a lady's email ad instead of a number? Tell me your thoughts on all his work if you are knowledgefull about it.

And has anyone listened to his CD series?

[Idorus]

whoo hoo

[corruptrelic]

I sent in a money order for his double your dating online book yesterday so I'm guessing I'll be getting in my email in a few days. His news letters are pretty interesting he called me a "Wuss" on one of them because of course I acted like a wussy and got LJBF'd.
I think his advice makes a lot of sense although I really have no idea how to do this "cocky & funny" thing hopefully the book will help out .. anyway sorry I coudn't be any more of help .. hopefully the e-book is worth the $40 since I just ordered Doc Love's "The System" at $99 and now I'm completely broke!

[Thug Intellect]

Iv'e read D'angelos book and it has some pretty good stuff in there but there isn't anything in the book you can't find on this web site, I actually read it before I got to this site and it really didnt help me as much as this site has , my advice keep your money.

[gekkoca]

I have his book...
I personaly have a lot of respect for his material...I have incorporated his material with great success.What has really helped were his newsletters...It helped condition my behavior and attitudes towards women.Hes a pretty good coach.Some women wont fall for this approach.Thats ok..because those kinds of women dont get it or are boring and not playful.Basicly next women that dont show intelligence anyways.
Would I spend the money...If you can afford it sure...because they are very good at giving your money back if your not satisfied.

[gekkoca]

I have his book...
I personaly have a lot of respect for his material...I have incorporated his material with great success.What has really helped were his newsletters...It helped condition my behavior and attitudes towards women.Hes a pretty good coach.Some women wont fall for this approach.Thats ok..because those kinds of women dont get it or are boring and not playful.Basicly next women that dont show intelligence anyways.
Would I spend the money...If you can afford it sure...because they are very good at giving your money back if your not satisfied.

[theguy2luk4]

hi,
I am looking for DYD, can u email me a copy of it plz? me email is yashvjain@sify.com Thanks in advance

Originally posted by Heavyweight:
I bought DeAngelo's DYD and I think it's a fantastic product. It has definitely helped me improve my success with women and it was well worth the money.

Having said that, I think a lot of the guys that write in to his bi-weekly mailbag are making stuff up. These letters talk about how these guys just read his book and have bagged six women over the next three weeks. In the last mailbag, some guy said he read DeAngelo's book and then hooked up with 3 girls, bagged 1, and got 4 email addresses - all without getting rejected once.

Give me a break. Isn't a major part of being a DJ understanding that rejection is part of the game and learning to deal with it? In fact, I think that's the major hang up for most AFCs - a deathly fear of rejection. I just don't think that there's any magic pill - whether its DYD or 7 Magic Words or whatever - that eliminates rejection. I don't blame DeAngelo for printing this crap; he's obviously trying to sell his book . . . but come on, get real.

Further, maybe its just me, but getting good with girls takes a lot of practice. Like anything, you have to work to be great. I don't know if reading a book once and then running out and firing off lines you learned and a fake attitude will get you laid.

Once again, I want to say that I read and recommend the book - it's done a lot for me. But I think a lot of those letters are hyped up garbage.

[theguy2luk4]

Hi, I m looking for Double Your Dating. I live in India and 1$ is about 50 times the Indian Currency. So i cant buy it. Can u plz email me a copy of the book at yashvjain@sify.com? Thanks in advance http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

Originally posted by hannibal82:
anyone have the actual CD's ? Maybe we could ummmmm...... hehe make some archival backups of them in case the person who owns them's house burns down or something http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

[theguy2luk4]

Hi, I m looking for Double Your Dating. I live in India and 1$ is about 50 times the Indian Currency. So i cant buy it. Can u plz email me a copy of the book at yashvjain@sify.com? Thanks in advance http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

Originally posted by Bungo Pony:
I thing David is getting a bit greedy now. He started out with his book, and I had no problem in buying it. Now he's got the seminars and the CDs, and those aren't cheap!

If I put my whole journal on audio CDs, would anybody be interested in buying it? http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/wink.gif

[theguy2luk4]

Hi, I m looking for Double Your Dating. I live in India and 1$ is about 50 times the Indian Currency. So i cant buy it. Can u plz email me a copy of the book at yashvjain@sify.com? Thanks in advance http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif


Originally posted by BLuE eLf:
I have the ebook.. maybe we coud exchange some information!

[theguy2luk4]

Hi, I m looking for Double Your Dating. I live in India and 1$ is about 50 times the Indian Currency. So i cant buy it. Can u plz email me a copy of the book at yashvjain@sify.com? Thanks in advance http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

Originally posted by gekkoca:
I bought the online book.
It is simple and quite effective.
It has changed my life with women and people in general 10 fold.The news letter was even more helpful as it conditioned me and answered specific questions not in the book.
Basicly in a nutshell...it states.
Be cocky and funny...with a grin.Tease and flirt.Be confident be a challenge.Let her chase you more.The girl must blink first or you lose.Dont be a wuss EVER..

[theguy2luk4]

Hi, I m looking for Double Your Dating. I live in India and 1$ is about 50 times the Indian Currency. So i cant buy it. Can u plz email me a copy of the book at yashvjain@sify.com? Thanks in advance http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

Originally posted by Track_Star:
Dont buy it, I did (but for under 40 bucks) and not only was there no new information that isnt common knowledge from this site, many of the claims they make about what the book will do arent even mentioned. Save your money, it can be better spent.

[theguy2luk4]

Hi, I m looking for Double Your Dating. I live in India and 1$ is about 50 times the Indian Currency. So i cant buy it. Can u plz email me a copy of the book at yashvjain@sify.com? Thanks in advance http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

Originally posted by xblitz44x:
I actually bought the book myself. It's not bad, but not worth $100 dollars in my opinion.

It stresses being cocky and funny, not supplicating to women, and exactly what to do and say for approaches.

Basically, if you study this site and these boards you will get the same information. I say save your money and just sign up for his free newsletter.

-Blitz

[theguy2luk4]

Hi, I m looking for Double Your Dating. I live in India and 1$ is about 50 times the Indian Currency. So i cant buy it. Can u plz email me a copy of the book at yashvjain@sify.com? Thanks in advance http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/smile.gif

Originally posted by Thresh:
Hey all,
I live in Australia and i was thinking of getting the book. Since Australia's dollar is almost half of the American dollar, i figure this book will cost me near the $100 mark i have no credit card so money order http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/frown.gif

I was wondering if its worth the money?


how much did it help?
your rating out of 10?plz

thanks

[Aiken_Drum]

Was all that necessary theguy??
Search for it in ***** under documents...

[Taiger]

I just finished with reading Double Your Dating, what intrigued me most was the fact that he stated that you should tell her right off the bat that she would be a good friend. The benefits I can see derived from that was
1) It places you in the power position and in control.
2) It drives her crazy wondering whether or not you are romantically interested in her.

What I find conflicting is that by placing her in the friend zone could’nt that backfire on you and she immediately places you into that zone also, I know if a girl told me that I would make a good friend, that would imply LJBF so I would next her. I was wondering your thoughts on this one fellow DJers? What would be the best approach?

[Ralph Bellamy]

Originally posted by Taiger:
What I find conflicting is that by placing her in the friend zone could’nt that backfire on you and she immediately places you into that zone also, I know if a girl told me that I would make a good friend, that would imply LJBF so I would next her.

The difference is over whether she puts *you* in the LJBF zone or you do it to her. If you are the one doing it, it puts you in power, but if she does it you are screwed and not in the good way.

About six years ago, before I started following this, I noticed that from a female friend of mine. I told her why I thought she would make a good friend but nothing more, and she responded by scheming to get me up to her apartment and into her bed LOL.

[ELITE_WOMANIZER]

the tactic of LJBFing her is a safety tactic, to ensure you dont have her bring up barriers between you, resist you, or get turned off. basically its a psychological ploy that says "im not interested in you, only as a friend". when you LJBF a girl, she figures your not interested in her.

keep in mind. women have learned from experience that when a guy asks her for her number theres a 99.999999999 percent chance the guy wants her.

so when your asking for her phone number, your basically saying "i want you".

and its bad when in the very beginning, she knows you want her, and she doesnt want you. barriers go up. shell resist you etc.

why dont women like guys that are interested in the beginning? becuase you come accross as easey, it gives her a sense of control(women know they have control over men that want them) you can come accross as desperate, and in some cases needy. AND ALL OF THESE THINGS TURN WOMEN OFF.

so LJBFing her in the begging is a tactic to allow you to ask her for her number with out saying "i want you". and the LJBF tactic isnt to act like her friend, its to specifcally tell her you think shed make a good friend and nothing more(the same way women ljbf guys). and it surely convinces her your not interested. thus you cant come across as needy, you cant give her that sense of control shes turned off to have, you cant come across as easey.

and if shes open to you, and not resistant(like she would be if she knew you wanted her) then shell be willing to go on a date with you, and thats what you want.

however, theres a chance she may already be interested in you, and wouldnt mind you asking for her phone number. but the strategy is to always assume that shes not interested in you just to be safe(if she aint interested in you already, expressing you want her is a bad thing), so you always LJBF her when you extract her phone number. its a tactical thing, and its also a safety thing so you dont get rejected or resisted or ignored.

its a tactic to use in conjunction with phone number extraction and setting up dates. as these two things always suggest interest.

i hope you get it now.

just to add something in. your going to be contridicting yourself on the date when you start flirting with her, holding hands, kissing. this contridicts the LJBF thing. you told her shes just a friend, but then later you start to flirt, and do other things.

well, another strategy that plays on this is unpredicability. you always want to remain unpredicable by sending the mixed message of LJBF and then showing some interest on the date. women play this game too of unpredictabilty, i hear ppl complaining about it all the time "she was into me at the club, grabbing my crotch, but then when i asked for her number, she didnt want to give it to me" well women are unpredictable, they love playing games with guys, sending mixed messages. it makes them unpredictable, just like the ljbf adds to your unpredictableness as a guy, and makes you stand out from the other guys.

[ELITE_WOMANIZER]

KEEP IN MIND, WOMEN ONLY LJBF :::::INTERESTED GUYS::::::. they never ljbf guys that are not interested them. remember, its a strategy women use to get rid of interested guys that they(the women) dont want.

when you LJBF HER, your expressing disinterest, how is she gonna LJBF you if she thinks you dont want her?

dont think negatively like its gonna back fire, it wont.

think about what i said.

[corruptrelic]

Why do so many books have different view points? Doc Love's "The System" David's "Double Your Dating" and now I'm reading "How to Succeed With Women" by Ron & David.. in how to succeed with women they say you tell the woman up front you are romantically interested in her, and show it, because if you don't she'll think of you as a lowly male friend, and once you are in the friendship mode it's almost impossible to get out. So if you are interested in a girl you don't have to come on strong, but if she was interested in you in the first place and you expressed a little romantic interest (so you made your intentions clear that you were not going to be her friend) - I would think that would have a positive effect on her? I don't think I'd risk losing any chances by LJBF'ing a girl like that as soon as I meet her, she might take it seriously and decide I'll be her male girlfriend and then you change your mind and try for more "Not so fast, we're friends!"

[much2learn]

Of course, the question then becomes, how do you begin to show interest in her if you've told her she's just a friend?

Otherwords, how long do you keep the deception up, and how do you progress from a "friendship" to something more romantic?

[Paradox]

Nice post ELITE_WOMANIZER.

Perhaps I should help explain how this works. I recently used this technique on a model friend of mine.

Step #1-heat it up
You chase the girl using DJ/flirting techniques.
Step #2-cool it down
You tell the girl "Let's just be friends".
Step #3-heat it up
Call her cross the line. Tell sex jokes or innuendos and then say "Just kidding."
Step #4-cool it down
Give her some time off. Time to miss you.
Step #5-heat it up
Ask her out to the movies, dinner...Act like you're on a real date.

Repeat from step #1 until she gives in.


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[KiInCollege]

The Let's Be Friends tactic is indirect.

You don't need this crutch to help you. If she's interested, she is happy that you asked for her number.

If she is not interested, LJBFing her is not going to change her mind. It may boost your challenge level to her, but if she's not interested you should stop wasting time with her.

I'm convinced that this tactic is just an excuse to one-itus a girl. You should be nexting these women and moving on.

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KiInCollege
"Sometimes all you need is a smile."
"Never be satisfied, but keep it positive."

[ELITE_WOMANIZER]

"If she is not interested, LJBFing her is not going to change her mind. It may boost your challenge level to her, but if she's not interested you should stop wasting time with her."

first off, this isnt a tactic to change her mind. its not a tactic designed to make you more desirable to her...

its a tactic to be used in conjunction with asking for her number, and setting up dates. to neutralize the massage of "i want you" that these two things always suggest. basically, its a safety device, if she aint interested in you, it prevents her from putting up barriers which can grow when an uninterested women learns your interested.

this gives you a good chance to get a date, where as, if her barriers were up, it would be very very hard to set up a date.

and just becuase a girl isnt interested in you when your asking for her number doesnt mean you wont have a chance to make her interested. LIKE ON A DATE. i think its foolish to NEXT her just becuase shes not interested the first time you met her.

incase you havent learned, there are ways to make women want you bad, and all you need is is some privacy to spend with her(the date) in order to do so.

this tactic just helps your chances of getting a date with an uninterested women if you will.

and for the other question about when to stop. first of, your not "acting" like her friend. your just playing it cool, and LJBFing her by specifically pointing out to her that she would mak a friend. and it has the desired psychological effect on her.

your not putting on an act or anything. and you only use it when you extract a phone number, and when your talking to her on the phone, setting up the date. AS BOTH THOSE THINGS SUGGEST "I WANT YOU" and that can often deter an uninterested women from going on a date with you, let alone talk to you on the phone.

once the date begins, your ljbfing stops. you got her where you want her. and you got plenty of time to work on her and make her want you bad. thats the strategy basically.

[ELITE_WOMANIZER]

however, on the date...you still use the element of unpredictability. so you will be sending mixed messages. acting interested, and flirting, even a kiss, and also acting uninterested, pushing her off your lap when she sits on it, even doing LJBFing type things occasionally etc. a mixed message if you will to confuse her, and keep her on her toes. this unpredictability drives women wild, and they want you.

[Idorus]

I'll let you guys know what it's worth when I receive, listen and use it.

I haven't found one single person who has experienced these cds yet so I gambled a bit by buying them but I think I won't be disapointed.

[ELITE_WOMANIZER]

based on wat he says it talks about it seems very interesting.i thnk he might even talk about the genetic stuff, he hints at it on hs preview page. i want to seewhat he has to say abuot that. it sounds worth it to me.

from wat ive heard, its supposedy 20X better than his book

[covenmandj_79]

I have just asked for a refund and sent it back my boy LOL