I have been surfing this site for about 6 months and find it to be very interesting and informative on human nature and behaviuor between the sexes.

I decided to post after reading posts about problems pertaining to personality disorders in women.

In my opinion anyone in a relationship with another person regardless male or female needs to educate themselfs on cluster B personality disorders, mainly Borderline Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Anti- Social Personality Disorder.

Most people on this board know enough that when they run into a woman of this type they see the red flags and move on quickly.

For the ones that take it lightly or do not know what they are dealing with the results can be mind blowing. To make it short and to the point, the people with these disorders do not have a conscious and lack empathy. These 2 characteristics are why relationships will never work with these people. Imagine getting up every morning and being able to do whatever to whoever and how ever wrong it might be and have no feeling about it. They dont care. It is programmed into their psychological make up.

I feel anyone who does not know about these disorders should read about them with an open mind. If you walk into a club there will be 5-10 woman who have one of these disorders and that is a conservative figure.

If you educate yourself it might save you a lot of emotional B.S. with the girl you are dating or want to date. I have dated 2 of these type of women. After basically being destroyed emoitionally, I finally learned what is was all about. What an eye opener!! Now I know. If I would have known the characteristics before I would have never got involved with the women.

Oh, by the way, you can never fix these people !!! Dont even try, just move on

Logic

Histrionic Personality Disorder is part of Cluster B and should of been included in your opening post as I and plenty of other guys are living proof it is every bit as emotionally damaging to its victims as the others in its cluster.

These are all sociopathic personality disorders but ASPD is the fullblown version of the psychopath/sociopath as they have no emotions where the rest in this cluster have some as well as bits and pieces of conscience which ASPD's also don't have.

Other than that criticism good post.

Anyway a few light tips to help spot one in your personal life be it a friend or lover...

1. ASPD's tend to hate animals, have a reptilian stare and come off as charming badass types. They are predators to the core and masters of manipulation. They play their gender roles to perfection when choosing a target and will become what you need them to be so you are hooked and they do this better than all of the others in the cluster IMO because they unlike the others in the cluster pull their schemes consciously.

2. BPD's act overly nice and love you one minute and hate you the next. They also tend to pull the HPD con game at first to draw you in. In short they are a horrible combination of HPD sexual hypnosis and BPD love/hate rage attacks and mood swings.

3. Narcissists will do almost anything to get your praise but if you don't give them enough or you become old and boring to them they will go from idealizing you to devaluing you and then finally discarding you.

4. Histrionics are natural actors they play the part of a very sexual girl and do it better than any normal woman you will ever meet and with this apparent sexuality and way of being they hypnotize their victims and get what they want out of them. As soon as she senses you are into her she will be gone or sucking off your next door neighbor or soon to be ex friend and she will make sure you know all about it but not make it too obvious that she wants you to know. The only way to keep one is to continually and never endingly play hard to get. You can never give her your all if you love her because she will then betray you, turn on you and end the relationship. They do this harmful cheating behaviour because it makes them feel validated and alive. To not do it they become riddled with anxiety and depression so know that even if you manage to keep one sooner or later she will cheat on you. Bank on sooner even if you can't prove it.

End Notes: All of the types can have the reptilian/unrelenting stare and Narcissists are the closest in the cluster to being as devious and consciously aware of their harmful behaviour as ASPD's.

logic1 said:

I have been surfing this site for about 6 months and find it to be very interesting and informative on human nature and behaviuor between the sexes.

I decided to post after reading posts about problems pertaining to personality disorders in women.

In my opinion anyone in a relationship with another person regardless male or female needs to educate themselfs on cluster B personality disorders, mainly Borderline Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Anti- Social Personality Disorder.

Most people on this board know enough that when they run into a woman of this type they see the red flags and move on quickly.

For the ones that take it lightly or do not know what they are dealing with the results can be mind blowing. To make it short and to the point, the people with these disorders do not have a conscious and lack empathy. These 2 characteristics are why relationships will never work with these people. Imagine getting up every morning and being able to do whatever to whoever and how ever wrong it might be and have no feeling about it. They dont care. It is programmed into their psychological make up.

I feel anyone who does not know about these disorders should read about them with an open mind. If you walk into a club there will be 5-10 woman who have one of these disorders and that is a conservative figure.

If you educate yourself it might save you a lot of emotional B.S. with the girl you are dating or want to date. I have dated 2 of these type of women. After basically being destroyed emoitionally, I finally learned what is was all about. What an eye opener!! Now I know. If I would have known the characteristics before I would have never got involved with the women.

Oh, by the way, you can never fix these people !!! Dont even try, just move on

Logic

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Can you be more specific?

Can you show situations and how "these" women act in that particular situation. This tip would be more helpful if you gave more specifics so that we can see exactly what is going on. You know, tell us exact situations and things like that.

Give us examples!

Thanks!

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My tip was for you to do the research with an open mind. Then you would have the information to make an intelligent decision if you are dealing with one of these people. It does not hurt to educate yourself. There are to many if's and but's to give examples and then say they have a disorder. It would not be fair to you or the person you are trying to figure out. Not every difficult person has a personality disorder.

Reading some of the posts about some of the problems with dating and LTR's I feel a lot of these people are dealing with women that are not emotionally healthy. It is a requirment to have an emotionally healthy women if you want a stress free relationship.

KontrollerX understands it very well. Maybe he could come up with a laundry list which would help. I lack in trying to put knowlege into words.

My vague examples:

1. Lying about everything. Even the small things. Things that dont matter

2. Love you, Hate you, sydrome. One day she loves you, the next day she is sleeping with the mailman.

3. " Crazy Making" " Gaslighting" You know in your gut something is not right but she is always trying to convince you are crazy for thinking that way. "It's alright honey".

4. Not responsible for their actions. No personal responsibility. Always someone elses fault.

5. These type of people will make you feel like a king after 2 dates. They idealize you. They become attached quickly. Might say "I Love You" after 3 dates.They are trying to suck you in. It takes time for normal people. Deep down they are extremely insecure.

6. Bottom line is they are wearing a mask and will try to manipulate you for their own agenda. The mask will eventually come off and you hope you are not in too deep when it does.

7. If you keep saying to yourself, Why does she do that? or why did that happen? and your scratching your head constantly, move on.

8. These women might be fine for one night stands or casual dating but do not try and start a serious relationship with them.

Any feed back would be welcome.

Logic