I am heading out for some dinner with an HB 8.0 Asian chyck tonight. We have previously spoken on the phoine several times and hung out in the afternoon once. This will be the first time hanging in the evening. We are doing dinner in her neighborhood. She has a slammn' body and would love to fclose or at least get into her bed.

DILEMMA: Its been my experience that Asian chycks are more reserved and less willing to hook up on a first date than others. But I don't buy this whole cultural difference ... in the end she is still a female with sexual needs like any other chyck. I'm definitely going to employ kino and a couple of tests. Her background is that she came to the US 10 years ago from Taiwan and went to an American college (interesting fact though, in that 10 years here...she still has a pretty strong accent) She works in the fashion industry and I've picked up in hanging and talking with her that she is over-worked. (I'm defintely going to use this to my advanatage as a way for her to let her inhibitions go as she can surely use a departure from the norm..plus, I met her on line)

Any suggestions on procurring that fclose tonight?


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Dont push it too much.....You sound like you may be jumping the gun a little. If she gives off IOIs for a fclose then by all means pursue but if not.....go by the "Live today, Fight tomorrow" saying. Girls dont like to put out on the first night.....they can....and do....but be wary of how much you push. You may scare her off. Kino is defo a good starting point. Also to get her in a relaxing setting. You want to try and get back with her. Dont invite yourself thow....You sound like your going to be too forward atm to me.

Good stuff Tomatoes...I was only comapring her to other dates that will end on a high note...guess I was automatically assuming she would be like past dates.

Start with the sensual language/kino from the get go and keep it going the entire date. Remember, the entire date is the seduction and foreplay, not just sometime to be initiated at the end.

Also, add in another venue after dinner if you can. Dinner is a hard place to really work on her emotional arousal state. Walk in the park is good.

You probably already know all this, but don't leave the seductive language until she is back at her place, get it going from minute 1 of the date. Same with kino.

When I meet up with a girl for a day2, or first date, I start off immediately with a hug, lots of light kino. I'll ussually pull the girl in and kiss her at around 20 minutes in depending.

I don't ask, don't run tests, I just look into her eyes and move in for a nice gentle kiss.

Then back off a bit, drop the kino for a bit, then start again.

By the time I get her back to my place she is aching for sex. No extended foreplay, since I basically use the date for that, and no LMR.

The last 4 girls I f closed I did this with, and each had the same result. Sex quickly after we got back to my place, no LMR. No alchohol involved with any of them, so you don't even have to rely on that to lower inhibitions.

I like the meathod, JC9. I am definitely a big fan of initiating kino and then backing off and then going back to it, back off....etc. (through out the night) I've found this builds arousal as you said. THX

Yeah, works great. Don't forget the sensual language though.

Girls will think about sex with you from very early on in the interaction if she is attracted, and her thoughts are ussually much wilder than you can imagine.

Use that knowledge to lead her with your language into a much greater sexual state. Pick the path for her, and then let her mind wander down it all night.

My favorite is to use rich descriptions of things around us, while applying light kino to he arm and inside elbow and then letting my words trail off like I was in thought. Try this and watch her face when you do it, you'll like the result.

Example. I was sitting in a lounge that had nice plush cushions in the booths. I was sitting very close to my girl running my fingers along her arm as we talked, then I said "Mmm, I love these pillows. They are so plush and soft, you can feel the down against your skin and know that you can just relax completely into them ... "

The words are generic, but it does wonders on her state. She will start thinking about the softness of the pillows, relaxation, surrender, all with you. Then she will start to add her own little sexual fantasies to the mix.

Don't believe me? Watch your girls face as you do this, you'll see it in her eyes.

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