*I just want to let everyone know that im writing this from very bitter AFC point of view*

Like alot of the readers here, Ive been an AFC my whole life until about 5 months ago when I discovered this site and its gold like advice and tips. Ive gone through what most AFC's have gone through such as: ending up in the friend zone, oneits, never getting the girl he wants, and the most famous of all...heartache...months and months of it. If theres one solid lesson/observation that I've come across through the years, is that being the AFC means that you will almost never appeal to a girl in a world of jerks UNTIL...she's on the verge of getting dumped by the guy, or when she HAS just been dumped. Its only then that the nice guy is realized. Its only then where the girl realizes that you are the kind of guy that would treat her like everything. This is also called THE REBOUND STAGE. Since the girl is at her most vulnerable state, she'll run to her closest guy friend for comfort (if not her girlfriends).

Now, if you want her enough and don't have TOO much past history with eachother, this is the time to totally take advantage of her! Don't be a little b*tch. This is the time to get some easy poon cuz chances are shes going to try and do you at this time. The greatest thing about this is she'll be the one that'll be after you! She's going to try and fill the empty void ppl feel inside after a breakup with you(hence rebounding)...Go ahead and FILL her void with your pen!s! hahaha.

There are advantages from this:- Easy sex.
- You don't have to do alot because she'll be doing the persuing and doing.
- If you're a virgin, you get to practice!
- Being nice paid off afterall right??

Of course, this also has some great disadvantages:
- She'll eventually get out of the rebound stage, find a new jerk and your once again sexless.
- Your friendship just wouldn't be the same anymore.(thats why its good to NOT have known this girl too long)

I know, I sound like a beast to even suggest something like this and I also know this isnt very DJ like because this is a basic act of a vulture(to take left overs), but hey! Its easy sex. Like what the antagonist in that movie "Just Friends" said, "This is revenge ****". For those of you who havent seen it, I highly suggest you watch it. The anatgonist in that movie is my hero. If anything, the movie should have been based around him =).


Inside every player lies the grave of a nice naive guy killed by heartache. - Wee Willy

hahaha! I was looking back at my old posts and THIS was my very first post and thread here in SS...good times.

Hahaha. Thats great!

LMAO.

You should make a post in here later Rebound Material where you answer this post as though you are replying to someone else so we can all see what you have learned.

Because in a way you are replying to someone else ie the former AFC you.

Being a former AFC with oneitis I can tell you what I was good for. If you recognise yourself in any of those following points then you better change for the better or else. Here is what I did with a girl I had oneitis for:

1) Free Car rides: I was always there to supplicate. If she needed a lift from school or work for home, I always offered a ride. Just having her in a car with me, made me feel great! hey everyone look at me, I got a hot chick in my car! hahaha (now looking at all this I realise that was pathetic but that is the first hot chick that was ever nice to me).

2) If she was bored, guess who she call too?: yep you guessed it, we could be talking hours on the phone or meet in a coffee shop, a desert place or a movie like a REAL DATE, only it wasn't! (did I mentioned that I insisted of paying for her coffee, deserts and movie tickets/popcorn??) in the end of the day she left and I went home to jerk off! those were the days.....

3) If she got in fight with her boyfriend and she needed to cry/vent and share her life filled drama, guess who she wanted to talk to? yep you guessed it, ME!!. It was me who said "there there don't worry he is such a jerk, he doesn't know how great and pretty you are, you deserve better" (hoping she will see me as better :wave but alas she always returned to him and I always went home and... yep you guessed it JERKED OFF!!!

4) If she had a stalker because she was sending mix signals to guys, guess who she asked for help?! Nope not her boyfriend, he was always too BUSY to take care of her every day problems (but not to busy to take her home once/twice a week and bang the living hell out of her and still go out and get more pvssy from other girls) so she called ME! and I had to be her personal body guard for weeks to make sure no harm comes to her! boy was I useful! did she see me as a great guy that protects her and deserving of her lustful body!!? care to guess what I did in the end of the day after my body guard watch duty?

4) When her boyfriend dump her (because he was seeing other women and she became too clingly) who did she call for help? nope not ghostbusters or dr phil! but me!! yes I remember the days where she calls me crying at midnight on a stormy blizzard icy conditions saying she is so upset she wanted to die and slit her wrists..... guess who had to drive in those conditions to pick her up and cheer her up for that day and hope she won't kill herself until the next time... yep it was the chump, my former self.

Nice Guys are definatly good for something but after I basically took advantage of this and went for it, all I got was 10 makeout sessions and reaching second base (but not letting me go below her panties, only rub on the outside) and the last make out session was on her birthday where I took her out and spend over 140 dollars on the both of us and she gave me a lousy Hand job. The following week she dumps me for another guy and walked away all happy from my life like nothing happened like she didn't know me. I used to be happy go lucky guy and after this I became so depressed I started punching the walls until my knuckles were bleeding and turned all blue almost breaking them.... she left me but gave me her depression (didn't know back then but after taking a close look at her erratic behaviour, symptoms and anxiety medication, I realise that this girl had a borderline personality disorder/Bi Polar).

Being an AFC chump with oneitis is the worst thing imaginable. Its like watching yourself going insane and you are still going at and hoping the sun will one day shine on you like a slave waiting for his freedom. If you know you are a nice guy and need help don't go the AFC route because you will probably get burned in the long terms. The DJ route is much harder on the short terms but in the end its much more rewarding and you will be better of for it.

KontrollerX said:

LMAO.

You should make a post in here later Rebound Material where you answer this post as though you are replying to someone else so we can all see what you have learned.

Because in a way you are replying to someone else ie the former AFC you.

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Yea, I guess I was replying to myself. At the same time, I can't help but feel that my advice was pretty good...if you're a total SCUMBAG! But yea, I've tried it before. You just gotta know what you're in for and that theres nothing promising by going for a chick in the rebound stage. JUST REBOUND SEX and whatever...

And DJDamage, I know exactly how that feels and Im pretty sure Im not the only one that agrees. Good sh!t.

Great post, DJDamage, I laughed through the whole thing. And so true!

this is the time to totally take advantage of her!

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The moment the nice guy does this is the moment he ceases to be a nice guy.

Ol'BlueEyes said:

The moment the nice guy does this is the moment he ceases to be a nice guy.

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THIS IS VERY TRUE! hahaha. I can't believe Im countering myself. Anyways, I guess its what MOST nice guys would LIKE to do but are just too damn nice(pvssy) to even do. They're so nice that they don't even see that the girl is practically spreading her legs in his face inviting him to come in that they don't do anything about it.

Ol'BlueEyes said:

The moment the nice guy does this is the moment he ceases to be a nice guy.

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I have to disagree it happens much sooner then that. In fact a nice guy is not a nice guy at all. He is spineless so he has to mask his true intentions (wanting to fvck her) by offering her his friendship with the hope he can get something going in the long run. Come to think of it, nice (AFC) guys get what they deserve in the end.

@rebound material: PHEW! thanks for saying that you WAS someone like this
Im still afraid there will be some people only reading the first post :/ would be nice to edit it a bit to show that its not the thing a DJ would do.

That behaviour like i dunno i cant even express myself oO patethic? no not harsh enough :/ AFC? Aww no even they have pride.

anyways back to the discussion:

Come to think of it, nice (AFC) guys get what they deserve in the end.

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I dont think they deserve what they get because they got brainwashed by hollywood, bollywood, sex and the city, women, everything this world shows us.

Just think back to your AFC days if you can didnt you used to think that your behaviour should be paid off with a hot girlfriend? Didnt you used to chase a good looking woman? Didnt you used to think that all you did was right? And those jerks who are A$$holes shouldnt get any GFs etc.?

Why did you deserved it then when you thought everything was right and you never did harm to anyone except yourself?

Enryu said:

I dont think they deserve what they get because they got brainwashed by hollywood, bollywood, sex and the city, women, everything this world shows us.

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Deserve in a sense that they rip what they sow, even if they didn't know what they were doing was counterproductive.

Who wants shallow sex anyway? Promiscuity is not a favorable trait. A true Don Juan should be extremely exclusive about who he gives the gift of his sex to.

The Nature of the NICE GUY

Imagine the financial jackpot of inventing a pill to take away loneliness, cure boredom, alleviate feelings of worthlessness, smooth over conflict, create feelings of being loved, relieve stress, and generally solve all personal problems. Nice Guys believe such a drug exists...

they call it sex.

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Sex is a basic human drive. Because most Nice Guys believe they are bad for being sexual, or believe that other people will think they are bad, sexual impulses have to be kept hidden from view. The Nice Guy's sexuality doesn't go away, it just goes underground. All Nice Guys have shame and fear about being sexual and about being sexual beings.

When it comes to sex, Nice Guys are consummate bottom feeders. They settle for scraps and come back begging for more. Nice Guys settle for distorted images of bodies in pornography. They settle for the faceless sex of 900 numbers and chat rooms. They settle for trying to persuade unavailable people to begrudgingly be sexual with them. They settle for quick, compulsive masturbation. They settle for passionless, mechanical lovemaking. They settle for trances and fantasy. They think that bad sex is better than no sex at all.

A man can read all the books he wants on "How To Pick Up Women" or watch all the instructional videos on improving sexual technique. None of these things will help him get good sex as long as he has shame and fear about being sexual or being a sexual being.

*Book: No Nore Mr Nice Guy

I remember having this problem. Whenever I came across a topic with a girl that was in some way related to sex I used to blush and feel very uncomfortable.

Now, I can talk freely about it. Hiding your sexuality is just another fear that has been programmed into your mind by society. As a man, we are supposed to show the woman that it's okay to become sexual, not the other way round.

So sexualize yourself. Start talking about sex. You'll get used to it and losse this stupid fear!

2.0 said:

Who wants shallow sex anyway? Promiscuity is not a favorable trait. A true Don Juan should be extremely exclusive about who he gives the gift of his sex to.

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You'd be surprised. Alot of guys on this forum would fcuk a goat if it gave him IOI's.

Rebound Material said:

You'd be surprised. Alot of guys on this forum would fcuk a goat if it gave him IOI's.

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Or have a male goat try to fcuk a chick if only it could talk....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0S5zS8jSE4